Originally posted by DigiObviously he was referring to me 😐
Thanks. It's for my Thor v. Thor Title Belt BZ with Damborgson that is going live sometime soon.And oddly, all my other Thor signatures were requests. This is the only KMC-member-neutral one I have.
Or was this not directed at me?
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And I had forgotten that you used to be Digimark instead of just Digi 😛
Re: 100Billion and your knowledge
Originally posted by pym-ftwput my money in the bank, then drink or fall into a vat of chemicals cause nothing can go wrong.
Ok you wake up in either the Marvel or Dc universe (your choice) armed with only your comic book knowledge and a hefty sum of moneyWhat do you do?
Originally posted by Digi
Do you really not see the issues here? You'd have to have a state-of-the-art lab constructed by numerous businesses and professionals, hire a team of elite scientists to oversee the project (you couldn't do nearly everything) and somehow keep it a secret from SHIELD, the governments, all the superheroes, pre-cogs, mystics, etc. And none of that even guarantees that the project will even work, because I guarantee you wouldn't understand the science yourself, so you'd be at the mercy of others in almost every aspect of the project.You'd also need to be a savvy businessman to avoid unwanted attention in the first place, aside from any schemes, a position I doubt you have experience in.
There's also the matter of stealing the plans (something this particular post takes for granted), from an organization who has dealt with villainy and treachery and superhumans for decades. Without attracting attention, or failing, or making an enemy in the process.
This is a plan that would probably take you decades to even have a marginal chance at success. Smart money is on Nick Fury showing up at your door, an AIM assassin putting a bullet through your head, or you going bankrupt trying to fund a nefarious scheme. The fact that you continue to ignore the logistical issues of such a plan reinforces my earlier assessment.
Honestly speaking, the only problem I see is the cube somehow reacting to my subconscious doubts/fears and thereby messing up my wishes . I can nullify that problem(I have a few tricks up my
sleeve) . And no , I've read enough Captain America/Red Skull comics to understand the knowhow behind the construction/functioning of a CCU .
Don't worry about my business skills . I've got that covered .
Nope , smart planning will ensure that it only comes to fruition at best within a couple of years . Although , seeing how the Beyond dimension opens a rift only once every 30 years or so, it might indeed take decades to build the first cube . Once the first one is built however, the rest of the process is fair game .
Originally posted by Astner
Live life and save a few million people to end up in heaven with the angels, if I have to believe in Jesus to end up in heaven—it's kind of ambiguous—I'll do that too. That and trying not to cross paths with villains.
It's implied in both Marvel and DC that you go to whatever afterlife you believe in.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI think you would be broke before that happens.
Honestly Digi , do you really think that I haven't taken into account all the fault's and/or loopholes of my plan , which might cause it to fail ?Honestly speaking, the only problem I see is the cube somehow reacting to my subconscious doubts/fears and thereby messing up my wishes . I can nullify that problem(I have a few tricks up my
sleeve) . And no , I've read enough Captain America/Red Skull comics to understand the knowhow behind the construction/functioning of a CCU .Don't worry about my business skills . I've got that covered .
Nope , smart planning will ensure that it only comes to fruition at best within a couple of years . Although , seeing how the Beyond dimension opens a rift only once every 30 years or so, it might indeed take decades to build the first cube . Once the first one is built however, the rest of the process is fair game .
Honestly no one here in this Universe is smart enough to compete in a comicbook world in business. You'll get bought out or stymied at every corner by someone like Doom or Reed or Tony or Lex or Batman or Nick Fury or Ras A Ghul or the Penguin or AIM or Hydra or and I'm sure there are plenty of other people you can think of.
We may have a bunch of comic book knowledge which gives us a lot of insight to the type of people we are dealing with, maybe even a few weaknesses to exploit, but we'll never compete against them in straight up matches of skill and brain power.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Honestly Digi , do you really think that I haven't taken into account all the fault's and/or loopholes of my plan , which might cause it to fail ?
Maybe you have, and I'm just not giving you enough credit. Based on your posts, there's still many holes, but it's possible you've accounted for them privately.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Honestly speaking, the only problem I see is the cube somehow reacting to my subconscious doubts/fears and thereby messing up my wishes . I can nullify that problem(I have a few tricks up my
sleeve) . And no , I've read enough Captain America/Red Skull comics to understand the knowhow behind the construction/functioning of a CCU .
Function and construction are very different. I have no doubt you understand how it operates. But the testing, precision, and math or its construction are comic-genius level. Nothing you or I could approach.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Don't worry about my business skills . I've got that covered .
Fair enough. Can't really argue against this, so I'll take your word for it.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Nope , smart planning will ensure that it only comes to fruition at best within a couple of years . Although , seeing how the Beyond dimension opens a rift only once every 30 years or so, it might indeed take decades to build the first cube . Once the first one is built however, the rest of the process is fair game .
Agree to disagree then. This is all a bit too hypothetical to bring hard data into the debate. I still think you'd wind up jailed or dead, but I wish you luck in your universal domination.
Originally posted by Digi
Maybe you have, and I'm just not giving you enough credit. Based on your posts, there's still many holes, but it's possible you've accounted for them privately.Function and construction are very different. I have no doubt you understand how it operates. But the testing, precision, and math or its construction are comic-genius level. Nothing you or I could approach.
Fair enough. Can't really argue against this, so I'll take your word for it.
Agree to disagree then. This is all a bit too hypothetical to bring hard data into the debate. I still think you'd wind up jailed or dead, but I wish you luck in your universal domination.
That is why I mentioned that I would have it replicated, a statement which by itself indicates that the construction is going to be done by hired engineers/scientists, and the process would be similar to the Nautilus' creation in "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" or the Miracle Machine's development . If you've seen that movie or read that comic, then you'll know why I am adopting such an approach .
Thanks .
OK. But this is a hypothetical scenario being discussed in a thread which gives one such an option, and that too set in a universe consisting of bizarre things to which RL scientific laws don't apply . I think I have a fairly good chance of succeeding .
Originally posted by Newjak
I think you would be broke before that happens.Honestly no one here in this Universe is smart enough to compete in a comicbook world in business. You'll get bought out or stymied at every corner by someone like Doom or Reed or Tony or Lex or Batman or Nick Fury or Ras A Ghul or the Penguin or AIM or Hydra or and I'm sure there are plenty of other people you can think of.
We may have a bunch of comic book knowledge which gives us a lot of insight to the type of people we are dealing with, maybe even a few weaknesses to exploit, but we'll never compete against them in straight up matches of skill and brain power.
This is not a business competition. This is masterminding and then executing a plan with the massive resources available at my hands, and I don't really see how I could fail in it, if I played all my cards right, and calculated all my moves correctly, consequently keeping in mind all the "ups" and "downs" such a stratagem would entail, and how to avoid all the "downs", while keeping the "ups" .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerMy point was is that whatever activities you are gonna be up to there are people that will definitely be there to stop you outright.
That's not really relevant though. First of all, all my plans are set in Marvel Universe, so you can forget about Lex, Bruce, Ras Al Ghul and anyone else of those DC schmucks .This is not a business competition. This is masterminding and then executing a plan with the massive resources available at my hands, and I don't really see how I could fail in it, if I played all my cards right, and calculated all my moves correctly, consequently keeping in mind all the "ups" and "downs" such a stratagem would entail, and how to avoid all the "downs", while keeping the "ups" .
And it is a business competition you have 100 billion dollars but you have no resources other than that. In order to get said resources you are gonna have to invest the money to get them.
But my main point is that it doesn't matter how much calculations you do, how much planning or counter planning or trying to manage all possible pitfalls you and everyone else here try to procure and think their way to power just aren't in the same weight class as other people in comics.
You may know Doom likes cheeseburgers and that he knows magic and could have made a great Sorcerer Supreme doesn't change the fact that as soon as Doom gets a sniff of what you are up to you're toast. He'll take all your money and dispose of you quickly.
Same with Nick Fury and Shield.
No matter how much planning you think you've done you just can't compete intellectually against these people.
Even the people you would need to hire to help you could potentially backstab you unless you happen to buy the most honorable help you can get. And if they are real good guys they won't help you with your plan anyways.
Originally posted by Newjak
My point was is that whatever activities you are gonna be up to there are people that will definitely be there to stop you outright.And it is a business competition you have 100 billion dollars but you have no resources other than that. In order to get said resources you are gonna have to invest the money to get them.
But my main point is that it doesn't matter how much calculations you do, how much planning or counter planning or trying to manage all possible pitfalls you and everyone else here try to procure and think their way to power just aren't in the same weight class as other people in comics.
You may know Doom likes cheeseburgers and that he knows magic and could have made a great Sorcerer Supreme doesn't change the fact that as soon as Doom gets a sniff of what you are up to you're toast. He'll take all your money and dispose of you quickly.
Same with Nick Fury and Shield.
No matter how much planning you think you've done you just can't compete intellectually against these people.
At the end of the day, with everything I've considered, I don't see myself failing .
PS : Since the recent F4 arc was out today, I'll address Doom alone out of all the people you mention who'd crush me with ease. Based on his recent portrayal, Doom will be disinterested in a scheme of godhood, so I doubt he'll bother to investigate .
Originally posted by Newjak
Even the people you would need to hire to help you could potentially backstab you unless you happen to buy the most honorable help you can get. And if they are real good guys they won't help you with your plan anyways.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerIt doesn't matter if you are trying to the sheer fact you are going after godhood is going to attract these type of people, 100 billion dollars is not an amount people are going to ignore.
But that's the whole point. I am not trying to compete intellectually with any of these people. I am aiming at attaining godhood, and the one option which both you and Digi have given me hell over, is exactly that: ONE of the 3 options at my disposal .At the end of the day, with everything I've considered, I don't see myself failing .
PS : Since the recent F4 arc was out today, I'll address Doom alone out of all the people you mention who'd crush me with ease. Based on his recent portrayal, Doom will be disinterested in a scheme of godhood, so I doubt he'll bother to investigate .
I covered that point in my previous reply to Digi .
Villains will obviously go after you. You are gonna be SHEILDS radar. Tony's radar.
Your quest for godhood is going to get noticed and you being a person from this world simply won't be able to compete on any fathomable level against those people.
Getting DNA samples from Franklin will get the attention of the FF4, getting the gems from the IG will be impossible no matter how much money you throw at it.
How exactly did you cover it all you said it will be like the Natulis' development and the Miracle Machine's. What exactly does that mean?
Originally posted by Newjak
It doesn't matter if you are trying to the sheer fact you are going after godhood is going to attract these type of people, 100 billion dollars is not an amount people are going to ignore.Villains will obviously go after you. You are gonna be SHEILDS radar. Tony's radar.
Your quest for godhood is going to get noticed and you being a person from this world simply won't be able to compete on any fathomable level against those people.
Getting DNA samples from Franklin will get the attention of the FF4, getting the gems from the IG will be impossible no matter how much money you throw at it.
How exactly did you cover it all you said it will be like the Natulis' development and the Miracle Machine's. What exactly does that mean?
Hardly . The poop/piss that Franklin excretes , or the blood samples that can be attained from a possible flu-shot , are very likely going to be a good enough source of his X-Gene to me . If its done in a discrete manner , I doubt that the F4 will even bother , let alone notice what I am upto .
A bum like the Hood almost succeeded at it , without any sort of proper planning . I am pretty sure that my chances will be higher than the Hood's .
Re: 100Billion and your knowledge
Originally posted by pym-ftwIf I goto the DCU from the real world, do I get the same amp that makes SBP more powerful than Superman?
Ok you wake up in either the Marvel or Dc universe (your choice) armed with only your comic book knowledge and a hefty sum of moneyWhat do you do?
Re: Re: 100Billion and your knowledge
Originally posted by BrockalizerTake the money, goto the Marvel Universe and pay Forge to create a series of weapons and gadgets.
If I goto the DCU from the real world, do I get the same amp that makes SBP more powerful than Superman?
I would then take my treasures and freely travel between all universes going Mxy on all my favorite and least favorite heroes and villains.
Maybe travel back in time an turn Jonathan Kent into an abusive drunk, or send baby Kal-El to Mr. Sinister's orphanage. Or, I could make Dr. Doom volunteer in a soup kitchen. I could set things up so the different Crisises and events would end how I wanted them too i.e DoS ends with Guy Gardner leaving a Cleveland steamer on Superman's grave.