Darth Traya (Peak power) vs Darth Sidious (RotS)

Started by Nephthys4 pages

IIRC only when he is full. He is not normally that level. And it doesn't matter. He has no Force defenses, ergo it would affect him.

Galactus can manipulate the forces of the universe at levels that would make a Skyfather blush.

He could sever the bonds that connect Traya to the Force with a thought, or even better sever the bonds keeping her atoms together.

It would not affect him because he could will it not to.

Stop this madness Nephy.

Originally posted by Nephthys
IIRC only when he is full. He is not normally that level. And it doesn't matter. He has no Force defenses, ergo it would affect him.

Dude you are seriously lost if you think an omnipotent being can be affected by an attack like that. Do you think Kriea can force drain the force itself too?

That's not how debates works genius. I don't have to prove a negative.

Looks like this went over your head. I advise you to get a triple digit IQ before lecturing people on logical fallacies, otherwise you just look retarded. You have to PROVE Sidious can block the drain, especially since Kreia did it so easily to 3 council members. Otherwise, you lose, again.

Also LOL@omnipotent argument. Vitiate and Abeloth are the only things that come close to omnipotence and even that's a stretch.

He was talking about Galactus, not Sidious, who nevertheless is not excluded from the club that includes Abeloth and Vitiate.

Originally posted by jdoe310
Looks like this went over your head. I advise you to get a triple digit IQ before lecturing people on logical fallacies, otherwise you just look retarded. You have to PROVE Sidious can block the drain, especially since Kreia did it so easily to 3 council members. Otherwise, you lose, again.

Also LOL@omnipotent argument. Vitiate and Abeloth are the only things that come close to omnipotence and even that's a stretch.

And no the entire basis of the argument that it's unblockable is that 3 featless Jedi fell victim to it, and a fallacious character statement said it was unblockable. That does not make it unblockable. Especially not against a character with such a powerful force defense like Sidious. Prove that Kriea's technique is the same technique Nihlus used.
Kriea is the only person in the mythos who has said that it is unblockable. And yet she is probably the character with the most lies in her limited dialogue.
Vitiate and Abeloth aren't close to omnipotent. My point was simply to prove how ridiculous this wank of Kreia's drain is.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Galactus can manipulate the forces of the universe at levels that would make a Skyfather blush.

He could sever the bonds that connect Traya to the Force with a thought, or even better sever the bonds keeping her atoms together.

It would not affect him because he could will it not to.

Stop this madness Nephy.

Dude, no shit he would win in an actual fight. I was just responding to whether she could sever him from the Force. Which, considering he has no control over the Force at all and thus no way to block it, she could imo.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And no the entire basis of the argument that it's unblockable is that 3 featless Jedi fell victim to it, and a fallacious character statement said it was unblockable. That does not make it unblockable. Especially not against a character with such a powerful force defense like Sidious. Prove that Kriea's technique is the same technique Nihlus used.

If the character said it was unblockable, then drained 3 council members, you have to prove there's a defense for it. Since you can't, you lose.
Kriea is the only person in the mythos who has said that it is unblockable. And yet she is probably the character with the most lies in her limited dialogue.
Vitiate and Abeloth aren't close to omnipotent. My point was simply to prove how ridiculous this wank of Kreia's drain is. [/B]

Kreia is the only person who even mentioned this technique. Come back when you hit puberty.

Guys....... You DO all realize that this has carried a bit far, yes?

Btw, Mizukage has a point. Kreia has more lies in her dialogue than just about anybody else (Liar McGee topping her)

Theres no reason for her to lie about this.

There's always the possibility that he could simply drain her first.

Sidious? With regular Force Drain or Nihilus' version? If he knows either then yeah he could given that he's vastly faster than her.

Originally posted by Nephthys
With regular Force Drain or Nihilus' version? If he knows either then yeah he could given that he's vastly faster than her.

Perhaps.

Ironically, his use of Force drain indicates a mastery that makes Vitiate's use of the ability look rather pedestrian.

I already said that Sidious probably blitzes her off the bat.

I don't think theres anything pedestrian about what he did to Nathema. Although if you're talking about how he needed 8000 Sith lords with him and that he used a ritual, then I guess. Although if he (iirc) absorbed those Sith Lords then his abilities have likely grown considerably after that ritual.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Although if you're talking about how he needed 8000 Sith lords with him and that he used a ritual, then I guess.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Although if he (iirc) absorbed those Sith Lords then his abilities have likely grown considerably after that ritual.

Likely, but peculiar for a figure who still relies overwhelmingly on rituals and nexuses. But maybe we'll see something more impressive in the future in that respect.

Yeah, for being possibly the strongest Sith Lord in history we could use some more exposure to his abilities.

Has you mentioned the new quotes to Silver at all? I may not respect the guys opinion but I'm curious to see what he thinks.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, for being possibly the strongest Sith Lord in history we could use some more exposure to his abilities.

Has you mentioned the new quotes to Silver at all? I may not respect the guys opinion but I'm curious to see what he thinks.

I haven't posted on ComicVine in a while and I think Silver is semi-retired. But drawing upon my immense and intimate comprehension of my fellow man, I assure you he'd probably just interpret it the same way that queer NemeBro did.

Realised the breads buttered better on my side huh? Excellent. excellent

nah

They have a horde of unusually well-informed debaters who simply do my work for me and that's no fun.

I found myself respectfully playing the devil's advocate on more than one occasion.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, for being possibly the strongest Sith Lord in history we could use some more exposure to his abilities.

Has you mentioned the new quotes to Silver at all? I may not respect the guys opinion but I'm curious to see what he thinks.

What quote?