Man of Steel (2013)

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[QUOTE=14376740]Originally posted by -Pr-
[B]No prequels, please.

I want a sequel with Superman dealing with the aftermath of the Kryptonian invasion. Public support is tenuous at best, and Lex Luthor is using any excuse he can, to paint Superman as being too dangerous for Metropolis. Superman at the same time is trying to reconcile what he's done, and vows to treat life with more care in future.

Oh, and have him fight Metallo, or something.

I hope they introduce lex luthor in the next sequal and kill him within the first 5 minutes of the movie and we never see the bastard again. No more lex man bleah, that dude has been way over played. I agree with the prequel though no more prequels.

I wonder if the sequel had Lex...would Snyder turn him into a real-estate agent just to spite movie viewers? C'mon I can't be the only one who's possibly worried about that right?

I think it is safe to say we will get the corporate evil genius

lex is part of the superman mythology.. the brains that takes on the brawns.. it will be stupid to leave him out of the movie.. we know he's there.. we know he exists.. he has to come out at some point..

Originally posted by zeel
[QUOTE=14376740]Originally posted by -Pr-
[B]No prequels, please.

I want a sequel with Superman dealing with the aftermath of the Kryptonian invasion. Public support is tenuous at best, and Lex Luthor is using any excuse he can, to paint Superman as being too dangerous for Metropolis. Superman at the same time is trying to reconcile what he's done, and vows to treat life with more care in future.

Oh, and have him fight Metallo, or something.

I hope they introduce lex luthor in the next sequal and kill him within the first 5 minutes of the movie and we never see the bastard again. No more lex man bleah, that dude has been way over played. I agree with the prequel though no more prequels.

He has not been done justice on the big screen. Which is a shame because Spicey would have been awesome had he not been forced to play hackman playing Luthor. What PR wants pretty much goes in hand with a comic-book like Luthor anyway.

It's actually pretty funny, I sat down to rewatch the climax of Avengers in comparison to Man of Steel to see just what about it was more heroic and satisfying to more discerning fans.

In no particular order; the following happens:

-The first Leviathan they destroy ends up exploding into a million chunks, it's corpse raining down upon a crowd of bystanders who run away in terror as it destroys a few cars.

-Hulk rampages through a crowded office building, jumps out the window onto another Leviathan, and then redirects BACK into the same office building. I can only imagine how many people were injured by shattered glass as Hulk jumps from building to building.

-Tony leads dozens of mooks and a Leviathan throughout the streets, as they explode Star Wars style into buildings and into the streets. This is despite Tony saying several times that they need to keep off the streets.

-Thor and Hulk double team another one of those stupid Leviathans, killing it and hurling its corpse down into what I can only assume is Grand Central. Once again a crowd of bystanders scream in terror as they desperately try and get away. Also worth noting that these stations were where Cap told one of the officers to start redirecting civilians to, in order to get them out of the way. Guess Thor and Hulk didn't get the memo.

It's true that the Avengers do show concern for civilians like...two times? They get some people off a bus and Cap tells some police officers to do their jobs, because apparently emergency workers have never been trained in the art of evacuating people. I guess ultimately my biggest problem with it, is that it feels so dishonest. Sanitized and squeaky clean, despite the fact that it clearly involved a death toll as large as Man of Steel's, but unlike Whedon, Goyer never shies away from the fact that it was a tragedy. Superman cries not only at the death of the Zod, but his failure to save everyone the way Jor-El knew he could. Tony thinks everyone should go out for schwarma.

Meanwhile, I sneakily re-watched the final fight in Man of Steel and guess what? Superman doesn't punch Zod through any buildings. Not one. He does smash his face into some glass windows and knock him through a few construction girders, though. What an evil bastard.

Edit: Beep Boop Boop, another great idea:

'Lex creating Bizarro (by tracking down Kryptonian technology and getting his hands on part of the Codex) would be a brilliant direction for the sequel to take. Luthor thinks he would make a better Superman than Superman, so he literally creates what he thinks is a better Superman. It thematically echoes his traditional tendency to hoard Kryptonite, in a universe where fragments of Krypton aren't dangerous because they're radioactive but because everything besides Kal-El that didn't survive Krypton is a self-destructive failure. Luthor's anti-Superman propaganda progresses so far that he actually brings into being the callous and destructive alien menace that doesn't belong on Earth that he claims Superman is; Superman can disprove this characterization by saving the people Bizarro endangers. It means that Lex Luthor makes the opposite moral decision that Clark Kent did, namely that Krypton-as-it-was should be given a second chance.

Lex Luthor, imitating the ways of Krypton: growing an unnatural Kryptonian designed to be powerful and obedient (Bizarro as a clone not of Kal-El but of Zod?), reverse-engineering Kryptonian technology, even toss in some environmental themes and have his short-sighted industrial practices echo the Kryptonians' decision to tap into their planet's core. A monumentally arrogant figure, he would believe he knows what's best for everybody, that he can assign them to particular roles rather than letting them choose; he does not believe in the people of earth as Clark Kent does. And his enforcer is a subservient Superman of his own - a twisted parody of power antithetical to wholesomeness, in the way that his own mind is a twisted parody of genius antithetical to goodness. The two characters who are the closest to being Superman's diametric opposites, playing off each other in traditional Nolanesque two-villain style, with one physical threat and one moral.

It also gives us something that Superman can punch in the third act. I like it.'

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People are stupid, bro.

We've gone over this a few times.

Originally posted by Nephthys
'Lex creating Bizarro ...
Lex Luthor, imitating the ways of Krypton...

It also gives us something that Superman can punch in the third act. I like it.'

Me too.

That's the thing about how MOS was done: we don't end up with the finished super-product. He's just starting out, it's a mess, there's lots of things to figure out, etc, etc. It really isn't fair to compare this to Reeve's Superman anymore than you can compare Bale's Batman to West's Batman.

BTW, watched 'Superman' from '78 again the other day (they've been playing it a lot on cable lately). It really is a great, feel-good flick, a comic brought to life, and Reeve brings a warmth to the character that, apparently, is really being missed in MOS. I can certainly understand.

To those people may I say, hang in there. MOS is not being done 'like a comic', but more as a scifi what-if based on the character. Hopefully the makers of MOS are paying attention and/or thinking all this through, and they'll know where to go in any subsequent film(s).

Bizarro = One of the worst ideas for a live Superman film. You people disgust me.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bizarro = One of the worst ideas for a live Superman film. You people disgust me.
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Bizarro, Toyman and Mxyzptlk need not apply for roles in this franchise.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bizarro = One of the worst ideas for a live Superman film. You people disgust me.

weep

But I really do like Nephthys's idea since I hopefully get to see a full length space brawl with Superman. Also though it might not be likely but maybe they could introduce Supergirl in a possible sequel considering that we already have the easter-egg for her in Man of Steel.

Also I would like to comment on the destruction in MoS in comparison to other Avenger films. As I recall Thor leveled that town he was in when taking on the Destroyer armor and Hulks rampage/ass-kicking from the Abomination fight did some damage to Brooklyn too. But hey let everyone ignore all of that because Superman flying through buildings is a no-no it seems.

Originally posted by Mindship

To those people may I say, hang in there. MOS is not being done 'like a comic', but more as a scifi what-if based on the character. Hopefully the makers of MOS are paying attention and/or thinking all this through, and they'll know where to go in any subsequent film(s).

Great comment!

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's
tl;dr

u mad

Originally posted by Kotor3
Great comment!
I was inspired by 'Superman: the movie'. 😉

Originally posted by super pr*xy
lex is part of the superman mythology.. the brains that takes on the brawns.. it will be stupid to leave him out of the movie.. we know he's there.. we know he exists.. he has to come out at some point..

there is no doubt that Lex will be in Man of Steel 2 however I don't want Lex at the forefront but rather behind the scenes

Originally posted by marwash22
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he's powerful tho! Stop focusing on the negative. 😉

Hurt yourself.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whats so eww about it?

Clark wouldn't do that.

Originally posted by zeel
[QUOTE=14376740]Originally posted by -Pr-
[B]No prequels, please.

I want a sequel with Superman dealing with the aftermath of the Kryptonian invasion. Public support is tenuous at best, and Lex Luthor is using any excuse he can, to paint Superman as being too dangerous for Metropolis. Superman at the same time is trying to reconcile what he's done, and vows to treat life with more care in future.

Oh, and have him fight Metallo, or something.

I hope they introduce lex luthor in the next sequal and kill him within the first 5 minutes of the movie and we never see the bastard again. No more lex man bleah, that dude has been way over played. I agree with the prequel though no more prequels.

lex is an integral part of the superman mythos. you might as well kill off the joker in a batman movie.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
He has not been done justice on the big screen. Which is a shame because Spicey would have been awesome had he not been forced to play hackman playing Luthor. What PR wants pretty much goes in hand with a comic-book like Luthor anyway.

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
there is no doubt that Lex will be in Man of Steel 2 however I don't want Lex at the forefront but rather behind the scenes

likewise.. I would like a lex that is sneaky.. goody-two-shoe with disdain for superman and works unseen against him.. it would be so good to get a lex that resembles the animated series one.. not a real-estate, wig-wearing lame-o.. a genius with genuine hate for the man of steel..

Originally posted by super pr*xy
likewise.. I would like a lex that is sneaky.. goody-two-shoe with disdain for superman and works unseen against him.. it would be so good to get a lex that resembles the animated series one.. not a real-estate, wig-wearing lame-o.. a genius with genuine hate for the man of steel..

agreed, hopefully the mark strong rumor turns out true

Originally posted by super pr*xy
likewise.. I would like a lex that is sneaky.. goody-two-shoe with disdain for superman and works unseen against him.. it would be so good to get a lex that resembles the animated series one.. not a real-estate, wig-wearing lame-o.. a genius with genuine hate for the man of steel..

I loved the Lex in Young Justice abd i think film Lex should resemble that version. He should be 2 steps ahead of everyone. He needs to have a contingency plan for his contingency plan.

EDIT: And at the end he should either get away with his hidden plan ala Ozy in Watchmen or Superman should stop his plan but Lex should remain untouchable. None of that jail crap

Originally posted by juggerman
I loved the Lex in Young Justice abd i think film Lex should resemble that version. He should be 2 steps ahead of everyone. He needs to have a contingency plan for his contingency plan.

EDIT: And at the end he should either get away with his hidden plan ala Ozy in Watchmen or Superman should stop his plan but Lex should remain untouchable. None of that jail crap

even if Lex is jailed just means that in Man of Steel 3, he will either get out legally or Kal has to break him out to save the city 😄