Originally posted by -Pr-
Why would he stand up to the bullies? Should he fight back and then accidentally kill one of them?
I never said anything about fighting back, much less hurting them.
It could've been a very simple scene where young Clark stood defiant making the bullies realise that they under estimated him.
Hell he could've picked up a rock & crushed it in his hands & just gave the bullies a knowing smile...
Originally posted by Esau CairnSo intimidation? Still doesn't seem like Clarks MO.
I never said anything about fighting back, much less hurting them.It could've been a very simple scene where young Clark stood defiant making the bullies realise that they under estimated him.
Hell he could've picked up a rock & crushed it in his hands & just gave the bullies a knowing smile...
Him turning the other cheek was exactly what Clark would do. They got that spot on. I also stand by what I said about him being forced into killing zod and his reaction to that being an amazing Superman scene.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I never said anything about fighting back, much less hurting them.It could've been a very simple scene where young Clark stood defiant making the bullies realise that they under estimated him.
Hell he could've picked up a rock & crushed it in his hands & just gave the bullies a knowing smile...
If he did that, he wouldn't be Clark. And he'd be exposing himself.
We're talking about someone so powerful that they're terrified of the slightest mis-step.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If he did that, he wouldn't be Clark. And he'd be exposing himself.We're talking about someone so powerful that they're terrified of the slightest mis-step.
Yes, Clark was terrified about his power but he was more brain washed by Pa Kent to deny they even existed. Martha wanted him to grasp & understand he's full potential... realising that Clark would one day be a God amongst men, whilst Pa looked upon Clark as a freak that needed hiding.
Christ, every kid growing up has a breaking point, regardless of the outcome & to have seen young Clark experience his breaking point would've been a significant scene in the movie.
I mean honestly, standing, watching your father die because he tells you not to do a thing to save him was pure selfishness on his part, leaving a widow, a single-mother behind.
Exactly what redeeming features was Clark supposed to learn from this?
I'm surprised he didn't grow up hating humanity knowing he could've, should've saved his father but humans were watching.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Yes, Clark was terrified about his power but he was more brain washed by Pa Kent to deny they even existed. Martha wanted him to grasp & understand he's full potential... realising that Clark would one day be a God amongst men, whilst Pa looked upon Clark as a freak that needed hiding.Christ, every kid growing up has a breaking point, regardless of the outcome & to have seen young Clark experience his breaking point would've been a significant scene in the movie.
I mean honestly, standing, watching your father die because he tells you not to do a thing to save him was pure selfishness on his part, leaving a widow, a single-mother behind.
Exactly what redeeming features was Clark supposed to learn from this?
I'm surprised he didn't grow up hating humanity knowing he could've, should've saved his father but humans were watching.
I don't think that's a fair thing to say about Pa. Jonathan acted more out of fear of them taking his son away than anything else imo.
Clark's breaking point would result in multiple deaths, and he'd be exposed. Pa was only teaching him restraint, which he'd need as he got older.
The Pa death scene... Okay, it wasn't great. He should have ignored his father and saved him, but a recurring theme throughout all of the Superman lore is that Jonathan raises Clark believing, more than anyone (even Martha and Jor-El), that Clark is an incredibly special person, and will do great things. When measuring his own life against that of all the ones Clark would one day save, it makes sense that he would tell Clark not to let himself be caught out and exposed.
Stupid? Sure, but it makes sense in the context of the character.
Humans are fragile, and can't do the things Clark can do. He'd been told that all of his life. He can't blame them for not running in to a tornado.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think that's a fair thing to say about Pa. Jonathan acted more out of fear of them taking his son away than anything else imo.Clark's breaking point would result in multiple deaths, and he'd be exposed. Pa was only teaching him restraint, which he'd need as he got older.
The Pa death scene... Okay, it wasn't great. He should have ignored his father and saved him, but a recurring theme throughout all of the Superman lore is that Jonathan raises Clark believing, more than anyone (even Martha and Jor-El), that Clark is an incredibly special person, and will do great things. When measuring his own life against that of all the ones Clark would one day save, it makes sense that he would tell Clark not to let himself be caught out and exposed.
Stupid? Sure, but it makes sense in the context of the character.
Humans are fragile, and can't do the things Clark can do. He'd been told that all of his life. He can't blame them for not running in to a tornado.
I understand & totally respect your opinion. It's just a shame there wasn't enough scenes of Pa Kent giving words of wisdom & encouragement to Clark.
I've only seen the movie once & all I can remember of Pa Kent's input was the constant, "No." "Don't." "You mustn't..." talks to a child that was confused, afraid ,needed guidance & yeah, felt alienated.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaIt must be cold and lonely under your rock.
It was pretty funny but no amount of hate for this movie justifies being hype for Ben Affleck Batman.I had no idea about that either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThe top comments are cheerful:
YouTube video😂
"Man of Steel is one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen."
"one of the most boring and worst movies ever made, only retards could like this movie"
I really gotta watch this movie again.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It must be cold and lonely under your rock.The top comments are cheerful:
"Man of Steel is one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen."
"one of the most boring and worst movies ever made, only retards could like this movie"
I really gotta watch this movie again.
It was a genuinely dull movie. Made me think that the male model who played Clark in Smallville, might turn out to be the best Superman since Christopher Reeves.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It must be cold and lonely under your rock.
I still stand by my statement until I get a trailer proving Ben Affleck is a good Batman.
Originally posted by janus77
You're feeling masochistic?It was a genuinely dull movie. Made me think that the male model who played Clark in Smallville, might turn out to be the best Superman since Christopher Reeves.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The top comments are cheerful:"Man of Steel is one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen."
"one of the most boring and worst movies ever made, only retards could like this movie"
I really gotta watch this movie again.
Plenty of top comments are genially cheerful. In fact, the very top comment called the film "great". I do think it weird how wildylyvereied peoples thoughts are on the film though. Opinions, eh?
Originally posted by janus77Yes. I had a small novel of complaints about this movie just from one watching. I'm hoping that a careful re-watch will yield even more shittiness that I missed the first time round. Man of Steel was one of the most frustratingly bad movies I've seen in a long time. I mean, there's disappointment like The Hobbit, or all out shlock like Last Airbender... and then there's Man of Steel. It's own special kind of unlikeable.
You're feeling masochistic?