if its done right and she's a jedi or scoundrel, i think it would be interesting. my guess is han/leah's daughter.
im nervous because abrams has little more sexual/sexist restraint on film than michael bay. not that im all sensitive about that sort of thing, (i enjoyed uhura's rack thoroughly) but he needs to keep that shit well out of SW.
Originally posted by queeq
I agree wholeheartedly... In fact I think that goes for Natalie. She's lovely and prolly very enchanting as a person, but also quite boring. She is in most of her roles. The most exciting part she ever had was in The Profession (aka Leon).
I'm sure if they'd stuck to the script, you'd be more careful with your phrasing 😛
Originally posted by Robtard
Nice racks are a part of Star Wars. We got plenty in the OT.
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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Can be a bit of a circular argument, that.Still, regardless of the potential rights and wrongs of it, the fact remains that SW is seen as male-centric, and if the new production is trying to change that, it is newsworthy.
Didn't they try that with Anakin's apprentice in Clone Wars, and even movies going back to The Ewok movies? Seems the female element has always been there. Unless explosions, lightsabre fights space battles and action etc are suspended, you could have a committee of feminists in there and it'll STILL be considered the domain of the male.
(Speculation, of course, but I bet 'The sound of music' or 'Mary Poppins' have larger female fanbases than they would have had if it had featured the afformentioned epic scifi battles etc etc)
Janeway being captain of Voyager didn't seem to interest too many women I knew.... Likewise there are probably a lot of females who would were fans of Star Trek, Star Wars and other movies and loved them regardless of whether or not a female was playing the lead role or not...because they were good movies..
Originally posted by Robtard
Nice racks are a part of Star Wars. We got plenty in the OT.
having an entire clip dedicated to t&a from the camera perspective of a voyeur (uhura panty scene) is not the same as leia happening to be dressed scantily as a slave girl while strangling someone to death.
And then there is this thing that both men AND women canidentify with male leads, but that generally more women can identify with a female lead than men.
Some could call it sexist to use that as an argument for male leads, but this is a quite well researched phenomenon. Women are probably more empathetic to both genders than men are. So since these bog movies are also about making money, it's not strange studios opt for as large an audience as possible.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Hardly worked. AOTC was the least succesful Prequel by a mile. And ROTJ the least loved of the OT.
It wasn't the least successful PT movie by a mile. It made $70 Million less than RotS or 18% less. RotS made most of it's "gap difference" in foreign ticket sales due to a much larger world-wide release.
AotC is #35, all time, in domestic sales. That's huge, man.
RotJ, according to IMDB, got an aggregate score of 8.4 and the other two 8.8. It is not as much of a gap as your post makes it seem. And of the OT, RotJ was my favorite.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The problem with advertising Padme as an action figure is that she was far more boring in the films than those poses make out.
mmmhmm. She needed a bit more hero action.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Hardly worked. AOTC was the least succesful Prequel by a mile. And ROTJ the least loved of the OT.
It wasn't the least successful PT movie by a mile. It made $70 Million less than RotS or 18% less. RotS made most of it's "gap difference" in foreign ticket sales due to a much larger world-wide release.
AotC is #35, all time, in domestic sales. That's huge, man.
RotJ, according to IMDB, got an aggregate score of 8.4 and the other two 8.8. It is not as much of a gap as your post makes it seem. And of the OT, RotJ was my favorite.
Originally posted by queeq
And then there is this thing that both men AND women canidentify with male leads, but that generally more women can identify with a female lead than men.
Some could call it sexist to use that as an argument for male leads, but this is a quite well researched phenomenon. Women are probably more empathetic to both genders than men are. So since these bog movies are also about making money, it's not strange studios opt for as large an audience as possible.
"canidentify" - that's my new word. 😄
I would note that in Empire Strikes Back, some of the ladies fawned over Hamil's form fitting and see through shit when he was training with Yoda. We didn't notice that because we're straight males. But the ladies did notice. So there was some "eye candy for the ladies" in the Star Wars films.
Oh, also, in the RotS, Anakin Skywalker gets up from his bed after his nightmare and he is shirtless...sort of.
So it is okay for there to be female eye-candy as well as male eye-candy. It seems to be a staple of Star Wars films.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It wasn't the least successful PT movie by a mile. It made $70 Million less than RotS or 18% less. RotS made most of it's "gap difference" in foreign ticket sales due to a much larger world-wide release.
Dude WW counts. It's where most the income comes from.
Originally posted by dadudemon
AotC is #35, all time, in domestic sales. That's huge, man.RotJ, according to IMDB, got an aggregate score of 8.4 and the other two 8.8. It is not as much of a gap as your post makes it seem. And of the OT, RotJ was my favorite.
I made a point which was the only 2 SW films where we do see some female skin (or skin tight clothes on) were actually the least successful movies of their respective Trilogies.
Of course ROTJ has an 8.4. All the OT are rated high. But like you've noticed yourself ROTJ is still rated lower than the other OT movies despite the gold bikini eye candy.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
false equivalency.having an entire clip dedicated to t&a from the camera perspective of a voyeur (uhura panty scene) is not the same as leia happening to be dressed scantily as a slave girl while strangling someone to death.
Wasn't just Leia and Leia did some laying about as nothing but eye-candy. The female dancing Twi-lek was just a show of T&A.
Originally posted by Robtard
Wasn't just Leia and Leia did some laying about as nothing but eye-candy. The female dancing Twi-lek was just a show of T&A.
you are attempting to equate brief clips of scenes, (who's total frames can be counted with your fingers) in which t&a was a superficial part of a backdrop, to an entire scene dedicated solely to showing the audience zoe saldana in her panties. stop being silly.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
However, the gold bikini still became an iconic image, and it is rather jarring and blatant. That's not to say it was bad, just that it's very much part of this whole male-centric culture that Star Wars is generally identified with.
there's a tasteful casual way of showing t&a and there are the horny overly-eager juvenile cinematic fumblings which jj has proven himself capable of.
i dont mind seeing a jedi who happens to be sexy. as opposed to what im concerned we might get: scantily clad ass-shaking pouty tart who happens to be a jedi.