Disney acquires Lucasfilm; Episode VII proposed for 2015

Originally posted by focus4chumps
:edit: what i suspect is that some folks become angry when seeing negative contrary opinions, and allow themselves to feel antagonized when no antagonism was given

Similarly, what I suspect is when some folks find an opinion that corresponds to their own, they do not see it is unnecessarily repetitive and annoying.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
Dadudemon, you totally get it man.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
You need me to send you the link to your previous 2 accounts? lol

Interesting.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
wow...really? ok...well i guess you need to report your concerns to the moderation team so they can look into this. if not you have gone well into the realm of trolling.

as for me, i admit guilt in once again entertaining your continued antagonizing and dont want this to escalate into another of your 8 paragraph "good bye cruel forum" posts. so i will bite my tongue (well, fingers as the case would be here) and let you have the last word (or dissertation as the case would be here)

I think the opinions are getting a bit heated. I value your input and knowledge on Star Wars.

I was wrong about the sequel trilogy. Apologies, good sir! I withhold my point until the sequel trilogies are made and THEN I can say "it is a real sequel". Until then, we should just drop it.

Originally posted by dadudemon

I was wrong about the sequel trilogy. Apologies, good sir! I withhold my point until the sequel trilogies are made and THEN I can say "it is a real sequel". Until then, we should just drop it.

no need to apologize. your questioning of the issue led to me learn something new and fascinating about GL's early creative process. certainly not a wasted venture.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no need to apologize. your questioning of the issue led to me learn something new and fascinating about GL's early creative process. certainly not a wasted venture.

*epic bro fist-bump*

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Ok, so, moving forward from there-

Working on the basis that whilst GL doesn't have an unused sequel trilogy, he DID have, at some point, ideas for other films... parts of those can't be used because his truncation of the series at ROTJ makes parts of tem (like Luke's sister) irrelevant, so what do epopel think he has that can be used? Planets? Species? Ideas about the Force?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
just found this excellent opinion piece (though it may deeply offend and disturb some members since its critical of the PT-click at your own risk)

"Star Wars Episode 7: 10 Things To Avoid"

http://whatculture.com/film/star-wars-episode-7-10-things-to-avoid.php#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=star-wars-episode-7-10-things-to-avoid

There's actually quite a few things in that article I completely agree with. Some of those didn't destroy the PT for me, but I agree with many things said there that shouldn't be done again.

Cut back on green-screening. I def. agree with.

I even more so agree with the avoidance of "the Awkward Tonal Shifts." ROTS was by far my favorite of the prequels, but there was some inconsistent tone between certain scene changes. You go from having a nice dark tone to the space opera scene...and then cut to Kashyyyk which had a totally different feel and was too bright and happy.

The "letting Lucas anywhere near it" well, of course. It's never a complete article until one cheap shot is taken, like I've been saying all along, and it's so old.

But in general, lots of things I think were well said in that link.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, so, moving forward from there-

Working on the basis that whilst GL doesn't have an unused sequel trilogy, he DID have, at some point, ideas for other films... parts of those can't be used because his truncation of the series at ROTJ makes parts of tem (like Luke's sister) irrelevant, so what do epopel think he has that can be used? Planets? Species? Ideas about the Force?

I think the EU did a decent job of taking it to a reasonible place: New Jedi Order. I like the idea of the NJO allowing marriages and things like that. The sequel trilogy could focus on setting up the new academy and bringing the empire back to a republic. "Jedi Academy"...not a bad launching point.

Truculent had been shouting that the movies going to be set in the Dark Empire era. Dunno if its been brought up here yet.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, so, moving forward from there-

Working on the basis that whilst GL doesn't have an unused sequel trilogy, he DID have, at some point, ideas for other films... parts of those can't be used because his truncation of the series at ROTJ makes parts of tem (like Luke's sister) irrelevant, so what do epopel think he has that can be used? Planets? Species? Ideas about the Force?

my take on it:

i think far-future setting. if anyone is still alive let it be luke or possibly leia, not both. an old ancient wizened master, and nowhere near the action. (sick of seeing senior citizens doing backflips with a lightsaber)

dark jedi are essential imho. perhaps a rift in the order, which cause a faction to turn away and go down the dark path. maybe the leader develops an obsession with the history of the sith (but please for the love of god no clone palpatine and no ghost palpatine.) whatever the case we need red on blue/green duels or its fail from the get-go.

maybe dark jedi form an army and recruit soldiers, i might like to see them stage their first attack flying derelict empire ships, like some star wars version of mad max. but ultimately they would have to gain control and win. whatever the case, the story has to be new and the bad guys have to gain the upper hand. its not star wars unless all seems lost for the good guys and they must beat impossible odds to win.

i dont think that can be accomplished with the standard EU model of "well the empire still have lots of stormtroopers and ships left so the story should continue there".

WRONG.

the rebel alliance has already struck at the mighty central core of the empire and crushed its god-emperor. therefore the challenges presented by the empire's fragments will be far lesser than in RotJ, while the strength of the good guys can only have grown immensely. this equals far less suspense. whats the point then?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Truculent had been shouting that the movies going to be set in the Dark Empire era. Dunno if its been brought up here yet.

I doubt Disney knows where they're going at this point in time; that's probably one idea out of many being tossed around in the Disney exec room.

i guess i have to be the first to bring this up

it makes me pessimistic that they already set a date, yet haven't even penned out a rough draft. really they are talking 2 1/2 years, which is imho either an unrealistic forecast bound to be postponed or the makings of a rushed craptastic abortion. either way i strongly suspect that we will not have a solid enjoyable episode 7 in 2015

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i guess i have to be the first to bring this up

it makes me pessimistic that they already set a date, yet haven't even penned out a rough draft. really they are talking 2 1/2 years, which is imho either an unrealistic forecast bound to be postponed or the makings of a rushed craptastic abortion. either way i strongly suspect that we will not have a solid enjoyable episode 7 in 2015

A decent (not great) screenplay can be written in 2 months. The pre-production is what will take forever. Production can be busted out in 3 months, tops. Post production 1.5 years.

Total time, excluding preproduction: 1 year and 11 months.

That leaves 7 months of preproduction. That's decent. Not great, but decent. You have to figure in recruiting, hiring, contracts, location related stuff, advertising stuff, etc.

I would think 9 months would be less rushed.

However, I bet the screeplay isn't completed or written until 6-8 months from now. That's why this is going to be rushed like a mo-fo.

Not good.

At least the PT was pretty much pre-written by Lucas before principal photography began for Revenge of the Sith. Episode VII will not have that luxury. Unless the script is already written and we do not know about it.

Fair enough, I should have said "know exactly where they're going at this point and time".

iirc, article said Lucas started talking to Disney about a year ago concerning the sale.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, I should have said "know exactly where they're going at this point and time".

iirc, article said Lucas started talking to Disney about a year ago concerning the sale.

This reminds me how just over a year ago...October of 2011 in fact, it was leaked that a new Star Wars trilogy was in the works. Lucasfilm obviously denied it, but all the sites were saying it came from a trusted source.

Recently, Mark Hamill said he sat down and had lunch with Lucas last year, and that's when he found out that new films were being made. Seems like that leaked news from last year panned out to be entirely correct.

oh yeah supershadow broke the news. also in 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007....

Don't be dissing my man Supershadow.

He's my go to guy for all things SW, and he's tres cool. You know he had a cameo in ROTS right? He played one of the Jedi getting cut down by Anakin in the security hologram.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
Don't be dissing my man Supershadow.

He's my go to guy for all things SW, and he's tres cool. You know he had a cameo in ROTS right? He played one of the Jedi getting cut down by Anakin in the security hologram.

Don't even go there

Originally posted by focus4chumps
just found this excellent opinion piece (though it may deeply offend and disturb some members since its critical of the PT-click at your own risk)

"Star Wars Episode 7: 10 Things To Avoid"

http://whatculture.com/film/star-wars-episode-7-10-things-to-avoid.php#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=star-wars-episode-7-10-things-to-avoid

Too much green screen and cgi characters?

Ok it's 2012, people need to get over that real F'ing quick

A million movies are made like that now.

Avengers had a fake street with a beat up car, and green screen all over the place fighting motion capture guys.

Sin City and 300........blue and green screen everywhere. Do they complain?

Yeah, lots of movies use green/blue screens. That seems to be the norm these days. It saves on the budget.

I think the minor problem that the prequels suffered from, and again, it wasn't a deal breaker for me and didn't cause me to despise the movies as it did to others, but, the one issue is that from time to time, the green screening served no purpose. Any kind of environment could have been in the background and it wouldn't have affected what was going on in the scene. Characters seemed to be trotting around in a world they didn't necessarily seem engaged in or familiar with.

Again, it's not like it was horrific or anything. It was utilized very well in TPM. In AOTC and ROTS...there were a few areas where it didn't work for me. But, the rest of the movie was awesome enough to make up for it.

i think "get over it" is about the most useless thing anyone can ever contribute to a discussion, second only to "i'm offended". just my 2 cents.

with that aside, the fact that something has become a trend does not validate and justify its every application no matter how subtle or heavy handed.

i can throw in lord of the rings which imho used tasteful cgi when needed but also relied heavily on natural settings and models which came off very realistic. i can also bring up how 300 and sin city were intended to be overly stylized and ridiculously cartoony, so bad examples. as for avengers, yeah they had one greenscreen scenes. they used it where they felt it was needed and practical (like with LotR), not just to wow us with cartoony eye candy. so im not sure how avengers proves your point that all-green screens are realistic looking.

:edit: maybe you mistake the genral complaints as a hatred for c.g.i. really its a hatred for filming the WHOLE THING in a green room.

Originally posted by Sith Master X

I highlighted the paragraphs in which you entirely missed my point.

Oh well..since I missed nothing, obviously, you failed...something you have to live with, not I...

Once again, let me thank Dadudemon for being one of the few people around here to just flat out get what I'm saying. And before I start...the first post I made about this was in no way aggressive, so that's completely off.

Well let me thank everyone else here who isn't looking for buddy points, and of course everywhere else who spoke their minds in the free world round the web - a non nazi environment, free to express their opinions without such trite garbage being thoughtlessly and automatically cast up from the chasm of "Oh god...people wont conform to my view" butthurt for agreeing with me.
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1. Other people like to have fun with the movies, hence the dissatisfaction with the prequels as you put it. That's a valid argument. Sadly, I feel that complaining about them for the better of 13 years now is borderline obsessive. I had tons of fun with Spider-Man 1 and 2. The 3rd was a let down to me. I expressed my criticism and disappointment at the time...and afterward, found something better to do. I did not make it a part time job to start a Sam Raimi bandwagon train. Criticism is fine...after a while, it becomes old and redundant. Barbara Walters to Donald Trump "Stop it....let it go."

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Hoping that you come through on my expectations that you are sharp enough despite the questions/thinly veiled attack statements you posted, to realise just how rhetorical my questions were, above......... Anyways....Peace, and love from a representative of the millions of SW fans you just blatantly attempted to troll.