Disney acquires Lucasfilm; Episode VII proposed for 2015

As always, spoken like a sad, obsessed PT hater with zero life.

I made a completely rational case asking why people hang on to something they claim to despise? Instead, I'm not s SW fan, but a troll.

It always comes down to that doesn't it? Someone who enjoyed the PT challenges all the negative Nelly's around here, and when they run out of big boy words to use, you call someone a troll.

What dadudemon said entirely contributed to our conversation, because rather than take my criticism of the "criticizers" to an extreme level as you clearly had, he basically got what I was saying. Why is everyone so hung up on it? Why the rentless bitching after so many years? Just because you have the option to demoralize Lucas time after time, doesn't make it productive or really add anything valuable to this place.

I made my point as far as Spider-Man goes. Though go onto the Spider-Man section here (if it's still here) and see if I've bitched Sam Raimi out for the last 5 years just because the 3rd wasn't as good ast he first 2. Is it my right to do so because the forum is there for discussion? Sure...I could...just like most people do here. But I find it rather old and counterproductive by this point. If I don't like a god forsaken movie, I don't dwell on it for the next decade, because it's simply not rational.

Your ego does amuse me though. As if you post for the entire SW fan club. Getting to your head much?

You rule the internet friend. Now go collect your prize.

With respect..

Originally posted by Sith Master X
As always, spoken like a sad, obsessed PT hater with zero life.

'Cause a non personal debate is always better when terms like "Sad, obssessed PT hater with zero life" are slung around in lieu of an actual argument.

I made a completely rational case asking why people hang on to something they claim to despise? Instead, I'm not s SW fan, but a troll.

Answered. They continually rerelease something that was not-up-to-par in the 1st place for most fans, and continual rereleases were dispatched all of which were in exchange for MORE money.
If this was free, you may have had a a point except for the damage done to a previously genius and much beloved saga.

It always comes down to that doesn't it? Someone who enjoyed the PT challenges all the negative Nelly's around here, and when they run out of big boy words to use, you call someone a troll.

Classifying all and sundry who oppose your particular POV as "Negative nellies" is another example of such trollery.

What dadudemon said entirely contributed to our conversation, because rather than take my criticism of the "criticizers" to an extreme level as you clearly had, he basically got what I was saying. Why is everyone so hung up on it?

Your ego does amuse me though. As if you post for the entire SW fan club. Getting to your head much?

You rule the internet friend. Now go collect your prize.

No prize neccessary, except maybe an apology from you for both not recognising the common sense I cited, and virtually defending LFL for saying that I bought the complete saga on BluRay and then like eight months later voila: NOT complete saga...Ep7.. cause more money was needed from me, and also no HD releases of the OT untouched have been granted to the long awaiting and very patient fans. Oh and of course, on top of that, the pointless spiteful butthurt name calling from you when you argument had been destroyed with pure logic and reason..

Are you kids done?

We're just going to keep doing circles, honestly. And I'm not wasting anymore time on it after this. My point is summed up perfectly in the original post I made, followed by what dadudemon said.

Lastly...."it was obvious as to why the PT failed to everyone but you."

Not true. I get why people were disappointed. Why? Because for the last 13 years it's been reiterated a million and ten times

-too much green screening
-too much CGI
-lack of character depth
-bad acting
-lack of character development
-terrible dialogue
-George Lucas has a fat ass.

Yes...I get it, because it has been beaten to the ground a billion and a half times. Just because some people felt that way about the prequels, doesn't mean the rest of the world did. Great....those are valid criticisms. But we've heard the same thing since 1999. My point...it's old, redundant, no longer adds anything substantial to any discussion.

Finally, you call the position I took "baseless" in other words, "pointless." Now you know how I feel about people repeating the same criticisms of the PT since 1999. By this stage in the game, pointless. We've heard it all before...so why can't we move on and discuss the excitement of the new trilogy, without people still feeling the need to cheap shot Lucas? Can't people at least get over that much?

As for an apology, I will certainly apologize for one thing. Using the term "Sad, obssessed PT hater with zero life" was out of bounds and was the wrong choice of words on my part. So for that, you get an apology.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Are you kids done?

Nice and informative contribution. 🙂

Originally posted by Sith Master X
We're just going to keep doing circles, honestly. And I'm not wasting anymore time on it after this. My point is summed up perfectly in the original post I made, followed by what dadudemon said.

Lastly...."it was obvious as to why the PT failed to everyone but you."

Not true. I get why people were disappointed. Why? Because for the last 13 years it's been reiterated a million and ten times

-too much green screening
-too much CGI
-lack of character depth
-bad acting
-lack of character development
-terrible dialogue
-George Lucas has a fat ass.

Yes...I get it, because it has been beaten to the ground a billion and a half times. Just because some people felt that way about the prequels, doesn't mean the rest of the world did. Great....those are valid criticisms. And lastly...."it was obvious as to why the PT failed to everyone but you."

Wrong, wrong and mega wrong. I get why people were disappointed. Why? Because for the last 13 years it's been reiterated a million and ten times

-too much green screening
-too much CGI
-lack of character depth
-bad acting
-lack of character developemt
-George Lucas has a fat ass.

Yes...I get it, because it has been beaten to the ground a billion and a half times. Just because some people felt that way about the prequels, doesn't mean the rest of the world did. Great....those are valid criticisms. They are valid the first few times. After hearing the constant griping about if for 13 years...it gets old.

And lastly...."it was obvious as to why the PT failed to everyone but you."

Wrong, wrong and mega wrong. I get why people were disappointed. Why? Because for the last 13 years it's been reiterated a million and ten times

-too much green screening
-too much CGI
-lack of character depth
-bad acting
-lack of character developemt
-George Lucas has a fat ass.

Yes...I get it, because it has been beaten to the ground a billion and a half times. Just because some people felt that way about the prequels, doesn't mean the rest of the world did. Great....those are valid criticisms. They are valid the first few times. After 13 years, it gets incredibly old, repetitive, and down right annoying. By this point we know that Lucas isn't the best dialogue writer in the world...do we still need to *****, moan and punish him for it at this point?

Finally, you call the position I took "baseless" in other words, "pointless." Now you know how I feel about people repeating the same criticisms of the PT since 1999. By this point, pointless.

As for an apology, I will certainly apologize for one thing. Using the term "Sad, obssessed PT hater with zero life" was out of bounds and was the wrong choice of words on my point. So for that, you get an apology.

why dont we just calm down and get back to the topic (star wars) instead of your alternate topic (losers i hate).

Hey everyone... so we're seriously picking on old scabs by talking about the quality of the prequels in a thread about the sequel trilogy. I think it's a matter of accepting what the general audience thinks of the films and not expecting them to think of it your way all the time whatever that may be. Some people in this thread (I will not name names) need to also accept the idea of NOVELTY and recognize that there are fans of the prequels out there not because they think they're great films but because these fans have great memories attached to them, most of the memories happening on this forum. That is what novelty is all about.

Originally posted by HyperStream
Hey everyone... we're seriously picking old scabs talking about the quality of the prequels in a thread about the sequel trilogy. I think it's a matter of accepting what the general audience thinks of the films and not expecting them to think of it your way all the time whatever that may be.

I agree, lets back to the real issue at hand of:

There is no way in hell they are making that 2015 release

Originally posted by HyperStream
Some people in this thread (I will not name names) need to also accept the idea of NOVELTY and recognize that there are fans of the prequels out there not because they think they're great films but because these fans have great memories attached to them, most of the memories happening on this forum. That is what novelty is all about.

That was well put. I certainly agree with that, and I can definitely see what you're saying.

I happen to think the OT was better made...no doubt about it. That didn't stop me from enjoying the PT though.

Originally posted by HyperStream
Some people in this thread (I will not name names) need to also accept the idea of NOVELTY and recognize that there are fans of the prequels out there not because they think they're great films but because these fans have great memories attached to them, most of the memories happening on this forum. That is what novelty is all about.

maybe those people who cannot handle negative opinions of the PT (no names) should just make their own forum, where they can form their own hive-mind echo-chamber and ban anyone who disagrees with them. that seems to be the only solution, because while im not an "elite veteran member with honors" like most people here, i've been around long enough to know that people who derail threads and insult others dont last very long.

so yeah, i heard they are making a new star wars sequel...

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I agree, lets back to the real issue at hand of:

There is no way in hell they are making that 2015 release

Oh they will. It's Disney. Any other film corporation and I might agree with you but Disney isn't called Mousechwitz for no reason by the people who've worked there 😉 Disney ticks like a clock, you could almost tell time with them.

i dont think they can pull it off for 2015. at least i hope they dont, because as dadudemon and i surmised, it would take a ridiculously convenient set of orgasmic miracles to make that happen (or an abomination rush job). im guessing end of 2015 (at best) and likely 2016, and even that is a tight estimate

:edit: it took GL 3 years each to make eps 2 & 3 and thats with half the story written and all the casting complete at the starting line.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
That was well put. I certainly agree with that, and I can definitely see what you're saying.

I happen to think the OT was better made...no doubt about it. That didn't stop me from enjoying the PT though.

I'm saying my peace and leaving. I have better things to do on my friday nights.

Besides the CGI, bad acting, bad dialog, and what ever they were "doing it wrong" and blah blah blah

The biggest disadvantage the PT had was to the mass audience, they were basically three movies of nothing but exposition.

You knew what was going to happen. Obi-wan is in peril, you know he's not gonna die.

There is no "ride"

This is why people who read the book, and then watch the movie.....they hate the movie.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I'm saying my peace and leaving. I have better things to do on my friday nights.

You'll be back. Come first screenshots/teaser trailer you'll be back 😉

Originally posted by Sith Master X
I think the minor problem that the prequels suffered from, and again, it wasn't a deal breaker for me and didn't cause me to despise the movies as it did to others, but, the one issue is that from time to time, the green screening served no purpose. Any kind of environment could have been in the background and it wouldn't have affected what was going on in the scene. Characters seemed to be trotting around in a world they didn't necessarily seem engaged in or familiar with.

This was actually a complaint from the actors, iirc. They didn't like the disconnection the green screen created.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No was he just repeated the same baseless position that you took. That was parroting, and piggybacking.

Hey, now...I was the original PT lover and the original "WTF? Why u hatin' on the PT?" guy. uhuh

Remember, I was the one that rustled the jimmies by calling the PT Hate "Blankie Syndrome."

Originally posted by Sith Master X
Not true. I get why people were disappointed. Why? Because for the last 13 years it's been reiterated a million and ten times

-too much green screening
-too much CGI
-lack of character depth
-bad acting
-lack of character development
-terrible dialogue

I've pointed it out over and over that those points equally apply to the OT, minus the CGI/Green Screen stuff.

And I do find that particular discussion relevant to this thread. What those people found wrong with the PT that they did not find wrong with the OT are going to be concerns of those people for the ST.

Since my concerns for the PT are marginal, I really have different concerns. I think the movie will feel rush and lack depth.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i dont think they can pull it off for 2015. at least i hope they dont, because as dadudemon and i surmised, it would take a ridiculously convenient set of orgasmic miracles to make that happen (or an abomination rush job). im guessing end of 2015 (at best) and likely 2016, and even that is a tight estimate

:edit: it took GL 3 years each to make eps 2 & 3 and thats with half the story written and all the casting complete at the starting line.

They didn't officially start prepro on episode 2 until 6 months after the release of episode 1, same with episode 3. So you're counting months that the production team sat around drinking margaritas on the beach. 2 1/2 year per movie. Disney made the deal at exactly the right time, plus I'm sure there has already been some top secret prepro already done on XII that they would never discuss with the public. I bet John Williams is already coming up with new themes in his head FFS.

Originally posted by HyperStream
You'll be back. Come first screenshots/teaser trailer you'll be back 😉

I will be back. I'll be back tomorrow.

But right now, I gotta go

Originally posted by HyperStream
They didn't officially start prepro on episode 2 until 6 months after the release of episode 1, same with episode 3. So you're counting months that the production team sat around drinking margaritas on the beach. 2 1/2 year per movie. Disney made the deal at exactly the right time, plus I'm sure there has already been some top secret prepro already done on XII that they would never discuss with the public. I bet John Williams is already coming up with new themes in his head FFS.

It will be tricky getting the film done by 2015, seeing as that each of these particular films usually took 3 years to make.

Now we are looking at something under the two and a half years mark. It is certainly possible they can do it. Granted that there is more set pieces and less digital work involved.

I think it will be done in time though. I don't know how many people LucasFilm put to work, but if Disney wants it done by a certain time, they'll have the adequate staff to pull it off.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I will be back. I'll be back tomorrow.

But right now, I gotta go

OOOOoooh good because I was like: "Did he seriously just do that shit? Dude's been around since '04 fcs..."

😆