Originally posted by Digi
Well this turned into a sh*tshow.I still think the battlefield favors certain opponents. Creativity will mean less when we're essentially stuffed into the same location. Like, if Jake unleashes a Godblast to start the fight, he might win. There's not enough room to avoid it. Soul gem or not, I'm a bit outgunned. I've also used Warlock as effectively as anyone in KMC history in an old tourney, but circumstances dictated a lot of our strategies. Here...I'd pull you all into Soul World (which Blair still hasn't banned, and IS a sure win for me). Or I'd go invisible (I think I can do that, even with the enhanced senses and magic in this fight) and hope to survive long enough to pick off the survivors. Those are my avenues of attack. The prep favors Blair and Mindset. The battlefield favors Abhi and Jake. Unless my soul world ploy is allowed, the winner is coming from among those.
Read the OP: "No insta-Soul/BRF". I was talking about Soul World.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Read the OP: "No insta-Soul/BRF". I was talking about Soul World.
I thought maybe you were just referring to removing everyone's souls, another trick that would work if it weren't for the stips. But yeah, I expected that.
Superman's speed doesn't mean much here. There's prep, so GL has Kryptonian physique and auto-shields, Doom has shields and probably a time spell to slow everything down, I'm completely invisible in ways that enhanced senses can't detect (only Doom would have a shot at detecting me), and Thor has shielding up and no one's stopping a Godblast from happening anyway.
Abhi might get in a quickie with Blue before all hell breaks loose, but then he's at the mercy of attacks that can kill him.
Related: My vote remains Thor, Doom, or GL, despite wishing I could do more to win myself.
Originally posted by Digi
I thought maybe you were just referring to removing everyone's souls, another trick that would work if it weren't for the stips. But yeah, I expected that.Superman's speed doesn't mean much here. There's prep, so GL has Kryptonian physique and auto-shields, Doom has shields and probably a time spell to slow everything down, I'm completely invisible in ways that enhanced senses can't detect (only Doom would have a shot at detecting me), and Thor has shielding up and no one's stopping a Godblast from happening anyway.
Abhi might get in a quickie with Blue before all hell breaks loose, but then he's at the mercy of attacks that can kill him.
Related: My vote remains Thor, Doom, or GL, despite wishing I could do more to win myself.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Shields don't prevent you from being erased from existence and I can create anti particles which can destroy shields which can't be taken down by even black holes. As for blair's daxam strategy, kyle no longer had his special ring (ganthet made him a new ring in SCW) and neither did he do it consicously the first time. Daxamites don't get superman level powers anyway, they have been at power girl's power level since JSA😮WAW. Time dilation wouldn't do squat here, superman did that feat in total time stop. Godblast is too slow at superman's speed level anyway. If I really want to prep, I would bring everyone to theta state and beat everyone down using their own powers or turn them vegetables locking them in a dream state. Superman can see the whole EM spectrum and beyond like seeing world in quantum energy patterns, I doubt warlock can hide his quantum signature. Also theta state would pull everyone in itself.
huh? 😕
You're talking about Kyle creating real living constructs during Circle of Fire, right? Not what I said I would do and either way I said in the OP I had the special ring.
Just curious, how do you create anti-particles? I've never seen Superman do that. I wouldn't be surprised if Doom has anti-blasts or Thor has some showing with them, but I know that GL's can turn into anti-matter (Stel's done it).
As far as Theta State - I've seen him do that move against two foes (Eradicator, Dominus) both of which went to that level with him. How does he push us there? How does he trap us in our own minds? As a GL at least I know I can put up telepathic protection up (since that is what I equate torquasm vo to). I'm sure the others can as well (especially Doom). And isn't Wonder Woman immune with the eyes of pallas?
Digi, show him how invisible you can be!
Lol, well, Thor can also create anti-matter, and I've actually seen that scan. I'd be interested to see the Superman equivalent.
Warlock's ability to conceal himself is conceptual. The level of sensory detail is meaningless. If I remember correctly, he was able to conceal himself from an IG wielder. I'll look for scans eventually; don't have time at work. But unfortunately, that tactic only prolongs my survival, so I'm not as motivated as if I saw a clear path to victory.
Originally posted by Blair WindYep.
huh? 😕You're talking about Kyle creating real living constructs during Circle of Fire, right?
Not what I said I would do and either way I said in the OP I had the special ring.I edited it and the prep time is too short for you to sleep and create daxamite constructs in your dream.😛
Just curious, how do you create anti-particles?Not yet.
I've never seen Superman do that.Of course, you haven't.
I wouldn't be surprised if Doom has anti-blasts or Thor has some showing with them,Unless they can turn their shields into anti matter, that wouldn't help them.
but I know that GL's can turn into anti-matter (Stel's done it).No feat exchange.
As far as Theta State - I've seen him do that move against two foes (Eradicator, Dominus) both of which went to that level with him.Eradicator did but he has more knowledge of T-vo then superman. Superman drew dominus, satannus and Adversary involuntarily.
How does he push us there?He just had to extend it, it just pulls everything even a robot.
How does he trap us in our own minds?He defeated dominus by trapping him in a dream.
As a GL at least I know I can put up telepathic protection up (since that is what I equate torquasm vo to).Its not telepathy.
I'm sure the others can as well (especially Doom). And isn't Wonder Woman immune with the eyes of pallas?It isn't telepathy in the first place.
Digi, show him how invisible you can be!He does that and I would show how much superman can see with his eyes.
Abhi, don't drain the fun from this. Comments like "of course you haven't" are completely unnecessary. Inform us, don't be a condescending ass.
On your points, your rebuttal doesn't sway my opinion of Warlock's invisibility. It has nothing to do with vision powers. I'm also dubious that we'd ALL be in T-Vo (especially people like Doom who have a dozen different magical blocks and barriers in place against that sort of thing), especially before the battle started. Doing it in a vacuum is one thing. Doing in on a football field with 6 mid-to-high heralds unleashing their best attacks all at once is quite another.
Originally posted by Digi
Abhi, don't drain the fun from this. Comments like "of course you haven't" are completely unnecessary. Inform us, don't be a condescending ass.On your points, your rebuttal doesn't sway my opinion of Warlock's invisibility. It has nothing to do with vision powers. I'm also dubious that we'd ALL be in T-Vo (especially people like Doom who have a dozen different magical blocks and barriers in place against that sort of thing), especially before the battle started. Doing it in a vacuum is one thing. Doing in on a football field with 6 mid-to-high heralds unleashing their best attacks all at once is quite another.
Question - does Warlock still breathe? Or is it like you said, purely conceptual?