Originally posted by KAIKAGE
I admit the silver surfer is a strong dude, he could lift probably one to two hundred tons, he fires deadly blasts and is very sturdy and has a level of matter and energy manipulation but goku is out of his league goku would at the very most only have to transform to super saiyan 1 to own the silver surfer. At super saiyan goku's power increases a hundred fold, his physical strength could lift tons in the millions and fight at speeds up to the speed of light and even goku's weak energy waves could destroy the planet at the right height and range.
Because, you know.....Silver Surfer has actually done that.
Originally posted by omgchos
You get the people who dont like DBZ underrating goku and those of us who like DBZ try to explain is Overpoweredness.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
This is the kind of threads you can expect from DBZ haters. They're too stupid to troll and needs help with it.Then again what else to do when you're in your mid 30s living in your mother's basement having no friend or money but troll people with actual taste that have most likely gotten somewhere?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Ignoring the other hilarious parts, when did Goku's "weak energy waves" destroy a planet?Because, you know.....Silver Surfer has actually done that.
Pointing out when Goku loses doesn't make someone a hater.
Originally posted by omgchos
Its not that they were pointing out his losses, its just that engame GT goku is omnipotent and immortal. Cant really argue with that.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I didn't really follow GT, so I can't comment on Goku's level there. That said, this is the world of fiction. There are several "omnipotent" characters, and they all have varying degrees of power based on feats. Some "gods" can destroy universes and more, and others get beat in anti-climactic battles against X-Force(God Selene).
Originally posted by StyleTimeGoku is not a villain genius of course he's never destroyed a planet but it doesn't mean he can't destroy one easier than vegeta and frieza when they were at their weakest. And unlike you I can back up my points about what goku is capable of.
Ignoring the other hilarious parts, when did Goku's "weak energy waves" destroy a planet?Because, you know.....Silver Surfer has actually done that.
Pointing out when Goku loses doesn't make someone a hater.
Seems pointless to throw insults like that. We're on an online forum talking about DBZ characters. It's effectively one nerd dissing another nerd....for being a nerd.
You said his "weak energy waves" can destroy a planet, and provided nothing but speculation as evidence. How is that backing your point?
What did you want me to back up? Silver Surfer blew up Thrun' Da when he fought Ravenous, and he was just releasing energy waves. You want me to post a scan?
Originally posted by StyleTime
If he's actually a fanboy in the typical sense of the word, simply saying "Goku loses" should set him off.
Originally posted by StyleTimeSomeone's a bit touchie, you've done the same thing to me anyway, take your "ignoring the other hilarious parts" comment for example. And how could it ever be more than speculation goku has never blown up a planet, and I said from the right height and range he could, like from orbit which is what vegeta did along the way to earth, and I'm talking about goku's super saiyan form at the end of the cell saga and his normal state from the buu saga onwards. I am sorry anyway for being a bit overly aggressive, just if you're going to say goku can't do something he really should be able to do back it up with more than he's never done it before. And I will give you the silver surfer blowing up a planet since you did back it up with a believable name and event, oh and was the silver surfer in orbit when he did it.
You said his "weak energy waves" can destroy a planet, and provided nothing but speculation as evidence. How is that backing your point?What did you want me to back up? Silver Surfer blew up Thrun' Da when he fought Ravenous, and he was just releasing energy waves. You want me to post a scan?
I'd just like to toot my own horn here, as KAIKAGE has proved my point. Heck, I didn't explicitly say "Goku loses", and he's already thrown an insult.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Ignoring the other hilarious parts, when did Goku's "weak energy waves" destroy a planet?Because, you know.....Silver Surfer has actually done that.
By equivocation, a Goku a bit after Cell Games level Goku could easily destroy this solar system. Cell's Kamehameha, that he was powering up, was enough to blow up the earth:
http://www.mangapark.com/manga/dragon-ball-z/c416/4
Goku passed that level sometime in the 7 years in the afterlife. Likely very shortly thereafter because he not only achieved SSJ2 but he achieved SSJ3. 🙂
Oh...look, I used supposed "canon" evidence to support my argument. Despite this fact, the anime is canon, too: just its own canon.
Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Someone's a bit touchie, you've done the same thing to me anyway, take your "ignoring the other hilarious parts" comment for example. And how could it ever be more than speculation goku has never blown up a planet, and I said from the right height and range he could, like from orbit which is what vegeta did along the way to earth, and I'm talking about goku's super saiyan form at the end of the cell saga and his normal state from the buu saga onwards. I am sorry anyway for being a bit overly aggressive, just if you're going to say goku can't do something he really should be able to do back it up with more than he's never done it before. And I will give you the silver surfer blowing up a planet since you did back it up with a believable name and event, oh and was the silver surfer in orbit when he did it.
I meant the "weak energy waves" part. I asked when did he do that, and you answered he hadn't but he certainly could. Would you allow that kind of speculation for other characters? If Silver Surfer hadn't demonstrated his power, would you believe he could do what he did?
No, Surfer was not in orbit. I would've posted these earlier, but I thought they were common knowledge by now. I skipped the middle of the fight, so this is just Ravenous's arrival + Surfer blowin' the place up.
Originally posted by dadudemon
By equivocation, a Goku a bit after Cell Games level Goku could easily destroy this solar system. Cell's Kamehameha, that he was powering up, was enough to blow up the earth:http://www.mangapark.com/manga/dragon-ball-z/c416/4
Goku passed that level sometime in the 7 years in the afterlife. Likely very shortly thereafter because he not only achieved SSJ2 but he achieved SSJ3. 🙂
Oh...look, I used supposed "canon" evidence to support my argument. Despite this fact, the anime is canon, too: just its own canon.