Ways to troll DBZ fanboys? · Anime / Manga

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, no. I commented on your post, not you.
I meant the "weak energy waves" part. I asked when did he do that, and you answered he hadn't but he certainly could. Would you allow that kind of speculation for other characters? If Silver Surfer hadn't demonstrated his power, would you believe he could do what he did?
No, Surfer was not in orbit. I would've posted these earlier, but I thought they were common knowledge by now. I skipped the middle of the fight, so this is just Ravenous's arrival + Surfer blowin' the place up.
I don't follow.

Well I admit I don't follow the silver surfer comics so I wouldn't have pegged him for being that strong, but it is still more common knowledge that the characters in dragon ball z are planet busters, in fact goku and vegeta were planet busters as far back as the saiyan saga during their fight and the rest of the z fighters attained that level during the frieza saga. And a few of them get infinitely stronger since then, so you shouldn't need to see it to believe it. With the silver surfer I am willing to wager it is not nearly as common a sight because the silver surfer wouldn't blow up a planet with innocent people on it. But I am still not that convinced about how the silver surfer stands against goku because vegeta wasn't in orbit when he was trying to blow up the earth in the saiyan saga he just had to use his ultimate attack the galick gun, so what do you think they were capable of by the end of the gt series when goku and vegeta reached the full potential of super saiyan 4. Maybe at one point the silver surfer was stronger than goku but once he became a super saiyan goku had the advantage, the silver surfer I'd say at best is at frieza's level or even cooler's final form's level, but that's just my opinion I might be wrong, but either way you slice it goku is alot stronger than the silver surfer, depending on which time period of goku your talking about.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, no. I commented on your post, not you.
I meant the "weak energy waves" part. I asked when did he do that, and you answered he hadn't but he certainly could. Would you allow that kind of speculation for other characters? If Silver Surfer hadn't demonstrated his power, would you believe he could do what he did?
No, Surfer was not in orbit. I would've posted these earlier, but I thought they were common knowledge by now. I skipped the middle of the fight, so this is just Ravenous's arrival + Surfer blowin' the place up.
I don't follow.

The point to look at here is that freiza did in fact blow up a planet, not istantaneously but there you have it. At the thend of the Buu saga goku was exponentially more powerfull then when he faught freiza. Therefore blowing up a plent would be like swatting a fly.

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by StyleTime
I don't follow.

I don't understand what you don't understand. That post was pretty clear.

One more thing: Goku's power was felt across the entire universe when he powered up to SSJ3: that should send the message even better.

The ability to planet bust was had by characters as far back as dragonball when Roshi blew up the moon.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't understand what you don't understand. That post was pretty clear.
One more thing: Goku's power was felt across the entire universe when he powered up to SSJ3: that should send the message even better.
The ability to planet bust was had by characters as far back as dragonball when Roshi blew up the moon.

I personnally didnt watch dragonball, but didnt piccollo blow the moon up in DBZ? Do they have 2 moons?

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by omgchos
I personnally didnt watch dragonball, but didnt piccollo blow the moon up in DBZ? Do they have 2 moons?

Moon was magically restored, broseph.

Also, it is great to have you back, Chos. Where the **** were you for about years?

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by dadudemon
Moon was magically restored, broseph.
Also, it is great to have you back, Chos. Where the **** were you for about years?

Here and there. I came back a couple times and got into stupid arguments with people. Mostly about the star wars prequels. Just kinda got tired of it lol.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by omgchos
The point to look at here is that freiza did in fact blow up a planet, not istantaneously but there you have it. At the thend of the Buu saga goku was exponentially more powerfull then when he faught freiza. Therefore blowing up a plent would be like swatting a fly.

therein lies the problem with db/z

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Well I admit I don't follow the silver surfer comics so I wouldn't have pegged him for being that strong, but it is still more common knowledge that the characters in dragon ball z are planet busters, in fact goku and vegeta were planet busters as far back as the saiyan saga during their fight and the rest of the z fighters attained that level during the frieza saga. And a few of them get infinitely stronger since then, so you shouldn't need to see it to believe it. With the silver surfer I am willing to wager it is not nearly as common a sight because the silver surfer wouldn't blow up a planet with innocent people on it. But I am still not that convinced about how the silver surfer stands against goku because vegeta wasn't in orbit when he was trying to blow up the earth in the saiyan saga he just had to use his ultimate attack the galick gun, so what do you think they were capable of by the end of the gt series when goku and vegeta reached the full potential of super saiyan 4. Maybe at one point the silver surfer was stronger than goku but once he became a super saiyan goku had the advantage, the silver surfer I'd say at best is at frieza's level or even cooler's final form's level, but that's just my opinion I might be wrong, but either way you slice it goku is alot stronger than the silver surfer, depending on which time period of goku your talking about.

For the record, I believe Goku can probably blow up a planet. I just don't think it'd be as casual as say, when Surfer did it. There are others, like Terrax, that have destroyed planets that easily too.

Yes, Surfer wouldn't blow up a planet with people on it. Thrun'Da was unpopulated because the Badoon there died fighting Annihilus's forces.

I think that Surfer would beat Goku, but I don't want to turn this into Goku vs Surfer.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't understand what you don't understand. That post was pretty clear.

Oh, my fault. It's primarily the Goku can destroy solar systems thing. I wasn't sure how you arrived there.

Originally posted by omgchos
The point to look at here is that freiza did in fact blow up a planet, not istantaneously but there you have it. At the thend of the Buu saga goku was exponentially more powerfull then when he faught freiza. Therefore blowing up a plent would be like swatting a fly.

That's speculation though.

Silver Surfer can do more than bust a planet too; however, I won't speculate as to what his max his. I'm just going by what he's done.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
therein lies the problem with db/z

👆

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by StyleTime
For the record, I believe Goku can probably blow up a planet. I just don't think it'd be as casual as say, when Surfer did it. There are others, like Terrax, that have destroyed planets that easily too.
Yes, Surfer wouldn't blow up a planet with people on it. Thrun'Da was unpopulated because the Badoon there died fighting Annihilus's forces.
I think that Surfer would beat Goku, but I don't want to turn this into Goku vs Surfer.
Oh, my fault. It's primarily the Goku can destroy solar systems thing. I wasn't sure how you arrived there.
That's speculation though.
Silver Surfer can do more than bust a planet too; however, I won't speculate as to what his max his. I'm just going by what he's done.
👆

Did you not see broly blow up those tiny aliens planet by just flicking a little energy wave at it with hardly any effort at all. And about destroying a solar system super perfect cell said his full power kamehameha wave had the power to destroy the entire solar system. Also there is no way the silver surfer can beat goku, someone who has super saiyan 4 up his sleeve not to mention also the universal spirit bomb that could also be made a whole lot stronger if goku transformed to super saiyan 4 whilst holding the universal spirit bomb, and even by some miracle the silver surfer was stronger than that which I highly doubt goku has proven he has no limits, goku is constantly getting stronger and ascending to new super saiyan levels, so even by some impossibility the silver surfer was stronger than the super saiyan 4 goku 100 years after the defeat of omega shenron goku would eventually surpass the silver surfer, but that's under the assumption the silver surfer is anywhere near that strong.

UltraSapienWolf Hunter-Killer

Remind him that Goku gets slapped around by Chi Chi.

Zack Fair Fanboy

Surfer > Goku.

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by UltraSapienWolf
Remind him that Goku gets slapped around by Chi Chi.

And I guess I have to remind you that Goku stays powered down during every day life to probably that of a normal human, it is also proven in one of the dragon ball z special episodes when tarble vegeta's younger brother arrives and tests Goku's power level with his scouter and it start's out at 5 and then starts increasing by 100,000,000 times or more. And do you really think Goku would raise a hand to Chi Chi, he isn't so pathetic and immature as to power up whenever Chi Chi gets angry.

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Surfer > Goku.

Nice argument you really changed my mind.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Did you not see broly blow up those tiny aliens planet by just flicking a little energy wave at it with hardly any effort at all. And about destroying a solar system super perfect cell said his full power kamehameha wave had the power to destroy the entire solar system. Also there is no way the silver surfer can beat goku, someone who has super saiyan 4 up his sleeve not to mention also the universal spirit bomb that could also be made a whole lot stronger if goku transformed to super saiyan 4 whilst holding the universal spirit bomb, and even by some miracle the silver surfer was stronger than that which I highly doubt goku has proven he has no limits, goku is constantly getting stronger and ascending to new super saiyan levels, so even by some impossibility the silver surfer was stronger than the super saiyan 4 goku 100 years after the defeat of omega shenron goku would eventually surpass the silver surfer, but that's under the assumption the silver surfer is anywhere near that strong.

Goku isn't Broly though, and Cell's statement was a statement with more speculation backing it.

As for the Surfer vs Goku thing, Silver Surfer has better feats. It makes sense that I'd pick him over Goku.

Silver Surfer would qualify as pure of heart, so I don't think the spirit bomb would work.

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by StyleTime
Goku isn't Broly though, and Cell's statement was a statement with more speculation backing it.
As for the Surfer vs Goku thing, Silver Surfer has better feats. It makes sense that I'd pick him over Goku.
Silver Surfer would qualify as pure of heart, so I don't think the spirit bomb would work.

Goku could probably absorb the energy of the univeral spirit bomb into his super saiyan 4 body or at least enough of it to get the job done, and my other points are still valid, Goku greatly surpassed broly once the buu saga began not only did he himself become much stronger but he also had the ability to transform to super saiyan 2 and 3 then by the gt saga he had become infinitely stronger, it was shown that goku's base form or at least his super saiyan 1 form was as strong as majin buu on top of that he could transform up to super saiyan 4 which was then made alot stronger when he took the energy from super saiyans goten, trunks and gohan and not to mention pan, so goku by then will be able to destroy a planet infinitely easier than broly. And what makes you think that cell couldn't back up his statement he never did it because super saiyan 2 gohan countered it and overpowered it, and what makes you think the surfer's feats are better, I have seen perfect cell stop a mountain sized asteroid with one hand and shattering it with out flinching, plus super saiyan 3 goku and kid buu's fight was tearing apart an entire planet with the shock waves of their blows and the collisions to the ground. What can the silver surfer do that goku can't.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

StyleTime sticking to his guns eh?

KAIKAGE Senior Member

Originally posted by omgchos
StyleTime sticking to his guns eh?

Tell me about it, it's really hard to drill this into his head, this is the first time I've met a silver surfer fanboy. I'm starting to think he's never watched dragon ball z and gt, or at least it's been a while.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Tell me about it, it's really hard to drill this into his head, this is the first time I've met a silver surfer fanboy. I'm starting to think he's never watched dragon ball z and gt, or at least it's been a while.

He did say his recollection wasnt clear, but it has nothing to do with that. He wont follow logic either. Just keeps jerking off silver surfer to qualify his arguments.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by omgchos
I find it a waste of time to use goku in any vs thread. Not only is he ridiculously overpowered, this is what it always amounts to. You get the people who dont like DBZ underrating goku and those of us who like DBZ try to explain is Overpoweredness. And isnt trolling a good way to get you suspended? At the end of it all youre just repeating yourself until the thread dies.

I've read the entire DBZ manga more times than you've brushed your teeth.

Goku would be trashed by the Silver Surfer, much less Thanos or Dark Phoenix.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by NemeBro
I've read the entire DBZ manga more times than you've brushed your teeth.
Goku would be trashed by the Silver Surfer, much less Thanos or Dark Phoenix.

So youv'e read it once?

Its not so much the argument of silver surfer vs goku we were having. Just that from the GT standpoint he was basically god. I never read the manga myself so i dont pretend to be an expert. Im fairly sure GT wasnt part of the manga> was it. Or am i just ignorant lol. And is this thanos with the infinity gauntlet. Because otherwise goku stomps him IMO. I dont know enough about silver or phoenix. I was more pointing out that most of the time peole downgrade goku, and it comes doen to fanboyism. Much as in most threads.