Beta Ray Bill vs Hal Jordan

Started by Philosophía6 pages

Originally posted by ODG
While I am hard-pressed to bring up an example of Stormbreaker doing so, Mjolnir has come back from dimensional BFRing. And even assuming the inevitable "feats shouldn't be shared" argument (although GL rings get a pass on that for some retarded reason), I honestly can't remember the last time Hal dimensionally BFRed anything, let alone a high-level weapon like Stormbreaker.

I'd be interested in seeing scans or examples. If you have any, that is.

Green Lanterns use dimensional BFRs all the time with another high-powered object - their own batteries.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/pocketdimension.jpg

Assuming [and this is what we're talking about here] Hal is fighting smart, thinking 'that hammer seems to be his main asset, better take it away' and doing this isn't far reached, at all.

In the post-DCnU the place where the batteries get sent has been retconned to, well, just the edge of the Universe (lol), but I assume that we're talking about pre-DCnU here.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/random%20scans/GLCv305009-010.jpg

Either way, Hal being able to send the hammer far away is indisputable.

[I hate the new photobucket]

Originally posted by Philosophía
[I hate the new photobucket]

Simple solution: use the old one.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Green Lanterns use dimensional BFRs all the time with another high-powered object - their own batteries.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/pocketdimension.jpg

Assuming [and this is what we're talking about here] Hal is fighting smart, thinking 'that hammer seems to be his main asset, better take it away' and doing this isn't far reached, at all.

In the post-DCnU the place where the batteries get sent has been retconned to, well, just the edge of the Universe (lol), but I assume that we're talking about pre-DCnU here.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/random%20scans/GLCv305009-010.jpg

Either way, Hal being able to send the hammer far away is indisputable.

[I hate the new photobucket]

We're supposed to be talking current Hal, but who cares.

Given that, your example strikes me as being the equivalent of Captain Mar-Vell's BFRing of Rick Jones every time he strikes his Nega Bands. I mean... yes, he is dimensionally BFRing him (every single time, in fact) but that doesn't exactly tend to prove that Captain Mar-Vell would dimensionally BFR Stormbreaker in a fight. And that dude's got Cosmic Awareness.

Also, Hal completely declining to use this battery pocket dimension (to the amusing frustration of Sinestro) doesn't exactly tend towards Hal dimensionally BFRing Stormbreaker in a fight. I trust you'd agree with me on that, at least.

Originally posted by ODG
Also, Hal completely declining to use this battery pocket dimension (to the amusing frustration of Sinestro) doesn't exactly tend towards Hal dimensionally BFRing Stormbreaker in a fight. I trust you'd agree with me on that, at least.

Not that I'm agreeing with you or Philo, but that is Hal as a rookie straight out of training. He knows about it now, in that instant he didn't.

^ But historically beyond that point, Hal does keep his battery in his locker... or his apartment. I mean, we are talking about the guy who never wears his ring when flying planes.

Originally posted by ODG
We're supposed to be talking current Hal, but who cares.

Given that, your example strikes me as being the equivalent of Captain Mar-Vell's BFRing of Rick Jones every time he strikes his Nega Bands. I mean... yes, he is dimensionally BFRing him (every single time, in fact) but that doesn't exactly tend to prove that Captain Mar-Vell would dimensionally BFR Stormbreaker in a fight. And that dude's got Cosmic Awareness.

Also, Hal completely declining to use this battery pocket dimension (to the amusing frustration of Sinestro) doesn't exactly tend towards Hal dimensionally BFRing Stormbreaker in a fight. I trust you'd agree with me on that, at least.

I tend to agree that in a 'comic' fight this would rarely happen [certainly in a 10 fight scenario], but fighting smart [which, as I said, is what I'm thinking of for this particular battle] I'd think getting rid of Bill's weapon by doing something that is basic for a Green Lantern would be a blatant option.

But then again, in an actual comic, Bill wouldn't start absorbing constructs [he'd just savagely hit them] and Hal wouldn't be pulling planetary-pressure resistant restraints, it was just hypotetical 'smart fighting'.

wait...isn't Beta ray bills hammer yellow? and he's a better fighter than Thor?

Originally posted by Villelater
wait...isn't Beta ray bills hammer yellow? and he's a better fighter than Thor?

This.

Kappa Ray Kevin ftw.