Really, if Living Lightning's presence is such a huge deal for why Masterson won, then the following question should be easy to answer.
How powerful is Living Lightning's form compared to Mjolnir's energy/lightning damage output?
I mean, if anyone is dumb enough to try and argue that Living Lightning being crashed into Gladiator > Mjolnir's power output, they deserve to be laughed at.
Originally posted by Damborgson
is this a thing of yours? Respond with little to nothing to a large post that makes sense?
I ask again, before Gladiator got tagged in the back by living lightning, can you show me an instance where Masterson had an advantage? I can post scans of Gladiator having an advantage throughout the entire fight before getting stunned. Can you?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Really, if Living Lightning's presence is such a huge deal for why Masterson won, then the following question should be easy to answer.How powerful is Living Lightning's form compared to Mjolnir's energy/lightning damage output?
Lol...Masterson hit Gladiator with a blast that bounced completely off of Gladiator chest. The only time Masterson got an advantage was during a sneak attack.
Originally posted by carver9Good for you champ, I can post the fight to.
I ask again, before Gladiator got tagged in the back by living lightning, can you show me an instance where Masterson had an advantage? I can post scans of Gladiator having an advantage throughout the entire fight before getting stunned. Can you?
Masterson Thor vs Gladiator, from Thor #445:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg
so? Living lighting is just a tool Thor used. Had it been standard Mjolnir summoned lighting, it would have had the same effect. If not more tbh.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
u mad?
😂
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Masterson hit Gladiator with a blast that bounced completely off of Gladiator chest. The only time Masterson got an advantage was during a sneak attack.
And even that noob blast he shot glads with caused him noticeable pain.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Masterson hit Gladiator with a blast that bounced completely off of Gladiator chest. The only time Masterson got an advantage was during a sneak attack.
Doesn't answer the question in my post you quoted.
Do you or do you not think Living Lightning > Mjolnir's power output?
Keep in mind Masterson Thor's n00bness often effected his power level and he often forgot about his own capabilities.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doesn't answer the question in my post you quoted.Do you or do you not think Living Lightning > Mjolnir's power output?
Keep in mind Masterson Thor's n00bness often effected his power level and he often forgot about his own capabilities.
I know for a FACT Masterson and Thor have the power to drop any Herald just like I know Gladiator have the power (he didn't use his heat vision or ice breath against Masterson) to drop both Thor and Masterson. Sad thing is, he displayed more power against Wonderman than Masterson and still stomped him before the sneak attack. Hell, Masterson only hits happened after stunning him with living lightning. Whooped de doo.
Originally posted by carver9
I know for a FACT Masterson and Thor have the power to drop any Herald just like I know Gladiator have the power (he didn't use his heat vision or ice breath against Masterson) to drop both Thor and Masterson. Sad thing is, he displayed more power against Wonderman than Masterson and still stomped him before the sneak attack. Hell, Masterson only hits happened after stunning him with living lightning. Whooped de doo.
Carver, this isn't hard.
Answer the question, stop dodging, and be honest.
If you think Living Lightning was such a crucial element in Masterson's victory over Gladiator - keeping in mind as well that it was the repeated strikes with Mjolnir which would have killed him, not the "sneak attack" - do you or do you not believe that Living Lightning's energy form/body being summoned forcibly to strike Gladiator is greater than what Mjolnir can produce on its own?
I already told you he could hurt Gladiator with his lightning and it would hurt a lot worse if it was a sneak attack like Masterson used against Gladiator. There's also the fact that Gladiator is weak to magic but again, Masterson did not have the luxury to do any of that during that fight...he was getting tossed around that entire fight and only had an opening when Gladiator stood above him laughing. With that said, don't understand why you are asking me that question.
Originally posted by carver9
I already told you he could hurt Gladiator with his lightning and it would hurt a lot worse if it was a sneak attack like Masterson used against Gladiator. There's also the fact that Gladiator is weak to magic but again, Masterson did not have the luxury to do any of that during that fight...he was getting tossed around that entire fight and only had an opening when Gladiator stood above him laughing. With that said, don't understand why you are asking me that question.
I'm asking you this question because you seem to think, and have for as long as I can remember, that Living Lightning was the only thing that could have saved Masterson, which seems to imply, at least in my own opinion, that you think that Living Lightning is as powerful or more so than any natural damage Mjolnir could perform. Which is ridiculous.
Even more bizarre is you tendency to call it a 'sneak attack', even though Gladiator is standing right there, smugly looking at Masterson like he already won. He didn't turn his back, didn't end the fight, didn't verbally acknowledge they were done, but merely stood there like an idiot. And yet, in your mind, you somehow think that Masterson remembering he can summon lightning and doing so detracts away from the fight.
In a nutshell, that fight shows us what the vast majority of us already know; Gladiator can put up a fight against Thor, but once Thor stops holding back and/or remembers what he has at his disposal, he's simply beyond him.
You twisting that fight just to make an excuse for Gladiator is unbecoming of the character and yourself.
Originally posted by carver9
The first blast Masterson hit Gladiator with was magical and it bounced off Gladiator chest like nothing.
You realize that Mjolnir's power output can vary, right? Not all energy blasts/lightning bolts/hammer strikes are equal.
Hell, in that same fight, we see how his energy blasts can be shrugged off by Gladiator, but once he's focused, can implode stargates.
@Jake...
I ask again, show me one instance besides Masterson controlling living lightning for you to assume Masterson could have countered Gladiator pounding on him while he was on the ground, heat visioning him while he was on the ground, freezing him and then pounding on him while he was on the ground. Show me SOMETHING during that fight that makes you believe Masterson could have gained an advantage if Gladiator would have pressed his attack. You can't...we both know you can't because Masterson got worked that entire fight until he bolted lightning on top of Gladiators head.
I will be waiting on that scan.