Thor vs Gladiator. 4 Rounds.

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

I ask again, show me one instance besides Masterson controlling living lightning for you to assume Masterson could have countered Gladiator pounding on him while he was on the ground, heat visioning him while he was on the ground, freezing him and then pounding on him while he was on the ground. Show me SOMETHING during that fight that makes you believe Masterson could have gained an advantage if Gladiator would have pressed his attack. You can't...we both know you can't because Masterson got worked that entire fight until he bolted lightning on top of Gladiators head.

I will be waiting on that scan.

Key phrase, there, it would seem. What's to stop Thor from doing the same and bop, bolt some lightning down on top of Glad's head, and thus, winning?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You realize that Mjolnir's power output can vary, right? Not all energy blasts/lightning bolts/hammer strikes are equal.

Hell, in that same fight, we see how his energy blasts can be shrugged off by Gladiator, but once he's focused, can implode stargates.

Masterson stated it wasn't safe blasting Gladiator and it wasn't the correct approach either.

I'm hungry.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Key phrase, there, it would seem. What's to stop Thor from doing the same and bop, bolt some lightning down on top of Glad's head, and thus, winning?

Gladiator being fast enough and probably expecting a blast from Thor.

Carver, stop dodging the question.

Originally posted by carver9
The first blast Masterson hit Gladiator with was magical and it bounced off Gladiator chest like nothing.

Which is more powerful, Mjolnir's best energy attacks or Living Lightning?

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

I ask again, show me one instance besides Masterson controlling living lightning for you to assume Masterson could have countered Gladiator pounding on him while he was on the ground, heat visioning him while he was on the ground, freezing him and then pounding on him while he was on the ground. Show me SOMETHING during that fight that makes you believe Masterson could have gained an advantage if Gladiator would have pressed his attack. You can't...we both know you can't because Masterson got worked that entire fight until he bolted lightning on top of Gladiators head.

I will be waiting on that scan.

Masterson got worked...until he remembered he had powers to use at his disposal and promptly beat the shit out of Gladiator almost to the point of death.

Him summoning lightning, regardless of the source, in the midst of a fight - yes, they were still fighting - isn't a sneak attack. How you've twisted it into that definition is absurd.

Gladiator is literally standing right there. Both of them acted stupid in that fight, but Masterson was smart enough to change things up. Gladiator wasn't.

How does that make Gladiator superior to Masterson?

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator being fast enough and probably expecting a blast from Thor.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Now that we're at this point, and remembering our earlier tussles...

Scans of Gladiator showing enough battle nous to dodge lightning bolts, please. I always thought he tried tanking them (like a Superman), but you're the expert. Scans please of him, in character, dodging lightning.

@Jake...

Just like I thought, you couldn't show me anything. Gladiator stood over Masterson laughing...that's not him fighting, that's him parading. If he would have kept fighting, Masterson limp body would have been FAR worse for wear. Masterson took advantage of an opportunity and rained a partner down on Gladiator. Before the plot, Masterson was getting worked.

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

Just like I thought, you couldn't show me anything. Gladiator stood over Masterson laughing...that's not him fighting, that's him parading. If he would have kept fighting, Masterson limp body would have been FAR worse for wear. Masterson took advantage of an opportunity and rained a partner down on Gladiator. Before the plot, Masterson was getting worked.

What was the game changer?

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

Just like I thought, you couldn't show me anything. Gladiator stood over Masterson laughing...that's not him fighting, that's him parading. If he would have kept fighting, Masterson limp body would have been FAR worse for wear. Masterson took advantage of an opportunity and rained a partner down on Gladiator. Before the plot, Masterson was getting worked.

Which is more powerful, Mjolnir's best energy attacks or Living Lightning?

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

Just like I thought, you couldn't show me anything. Gladiator stood over Masterson laughing...that's not him fighting, that's him parading. If he would have kept fighting, Masterson limp body would have been FAR worse for wear. Masterson took advantage of an opportunity and rained a partner down on Gladiator. Before the plot, Masterson was getting worked.

Gladiator stood there at his opponent and stared him down. The fight was still going on, and Gladiator proclaimed he was going to kill him for the Sh'iar Empire. Him basking in his glory while watching Masterson tap Mjolnir to use its power is his own fault, not Masterson's. Masterson was even bantering, so Gladiator knew the fight was still going.

So again, how is Gladiator being an idiot a strike against Masterson? Hell, and while we're playing the "if" game, "if" Masterson remembered his powers early on in the fight, he would have achieved the same result as he did at fight's end.

Almost killing Gladiator.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now we're getting somewhere.

Now that we're at this point, and remembering our earlier tussles...

Scans of Gladiator showing enough battle nous to dodge lightning bolts, please. I always thought he tried tanking them (like a Superman), but you're the expert. Scans please of him, in character, dodging lightning.

Is that all you want?

Ok.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/160/spprb1.jpg/

@Jake...

Let's not pretend like Gladiator used all of his powers against Masterson. Both were fighting in character and Masterson got demolished until LL saved his life.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Carver, stop dodging the question.

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

Let's not pretend like Gladiator used all of his powers against Masterson. Both were fighting in character and Masterson got demolished until LL saved his life.

Which is more powerful, Mjolnir's best energy attacks or Living Lightning?

Originally posted by carver9
Is that all you want?

Ok.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/160/spprb1.jpg/

Cool, yeah that's what I wanted. Now all we need are scans of who is more powerful, Living Lightning or Mjolnir....

Because we already know that Thor is more seasoned and experienced than either Storm or Masterson, right?

Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...

Let's not pretend like Gladiator used all of his powers against Masterson. Both were fighting in character and Masterson got demolished until LL saved his life.

Neither did Masterson.

Yet, Masterson was the one smart enough to do so - in character - and to the degree that he nearly slayed Gladiator.

But again, you bring up LL, which brings us back to the question you keep dodging.

Is Living Lightning more powerful than Mjolnir?

Yes, no, maybe, or you don't know?

It's not hard. I'm even giving you four choices.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool, yeah that's what I wanted. Now all we need are scans of who is more powerful, Living Lightning or Mjolnir....

Because we already know that Thor is more seasoned and experienced than either Storm or Masterson, right?

That scan kind of looks like she missed because he was already in-flight, rather than him dodging in response to the attack.

At Jake, I already told you I think Thor power output is greater than living lightning but again, Masterson never had the luxury of going exotic. Gladiator could have heat vision Masterson face off during the time they were in a grip stance but he didn't.

I also said Masterson played it smart and took advantage of an opening BUT if that opening/plot wasnt there, Masterson would have died.

Lol...Gladiator wouldn't have died, that was just word of mouth. A couple of panels after Mjlonir strikes, Gladiator was waking up.