Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Well obviously because he can't die and as far as we know (an example) an arrow through the head would do nothing. The thing is Voldy isn't even in this fight. Imo its not about an Avengers bandwagon it's more the fact they have the means to fight here. You have Black Widow, Hawkeye, and mainly The Hulk as distractions. Imo They would see Hulk and thats who they would focus on as he would look like something more along the lines of an Ogre or a monster. The rest they would blow off as "simple muggles". As I said through the whole thing though Thor is their real problem and Cap would survive for a little while.
So how is Hulk supposed to be a contender when someone just transforms him into a mouse and stomps on him? Hmm? What about mind control? Hmm? What about Jinxes which only have to thought at a target? Hmm? What about the fact that the Death Eaters can turn into spell casting intangible smoke clouds? Hmm? Did anyone address that? Hmm? Anyone? Oh, that's right, a bunch of annoying Avenger fanboys have been arguing for pages while ignoring pretty much anything the magical users have.
Other than Moody/Crouch (who was brilliant (and dead)), when has any wizard displayed enough skill to transfigure a human, let alone a huge rage monster powered by radiation, into an animal? That is notably complex magic, with the task becoming more difficult the more complex the being being transfigured. Hulk is obviously more complex than even a human. It is unlikely they could transfigure him.
And Hulks utter rage is likely enough to fend off an imperious, which can be resisted by simple willpower.
Jinks are silly kids stuff. I doubt a Death Eater will be firing off a bat-bogey hex mid-combat.
Thor takes out the half-apparating dudes (who aren't intangible).
I wouldnt call that apperating, i dont know what that flying cloud stuff was supposed to be. In the books only snape and voldy seemed to be able to fly without a broom or thestral or hippogriff. Since voldy isnt here thats a non-issue. And as stated in the movies no one can apperate or dissaperate in the grounds of hogwarts. So again its a non-issue. As to transforming the hulk, i can't say. Id prolly air on the side of not being able to. Death eaters in the movies seemd much more likely to avada kedavra anything that moves. Which is why we had that argument about whether the armor would block it or not, which came to nothing. Barring that there are still many disabling spells such as impedimenta and stupefy which i think would be very effective. Maybe not against hulk tho.
Originally posted by omgchos
I wouldnt call that apperating, i dont know what that flying cloud stuff was supposed to be. In the books only snape and voldy seemed to be able to fly without a broom or thestral or hippogriff. Since voldy isnt here thats a non-issue. And as stated in the movies no one can apperate or dissaperate in the grounds of hogwarts. So again its a non-issue. As to transforming the hulk, i can't say. Id prolly air on the side of not being able to. Death eaters in the movies seemd much more likely to avada kedavra anything that moves. Which is why we had that argument about whether the armor would block it or not, which came to nothing. Barring that there are still many disabling spells such as impedimenta and stupefy which i think would be very effective. Maybe not against hulk tho.
No reason to believe the AK wouldn't work on Hulk though.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Other than Moody/Crouch (who was brilliant (and dead)), when has any wizard displayed enough skill to transfigure a human,
So why is there a class dedicated to teaching students Transfiguration? Apparently, you're trying to downplay transfiguration despite the fact that it is a basic skill taught to children. Oh well, what is new around here? Anything to make the magical users appear weaker, right? By the way, human transfiguration is taught to 6th years at Hogwarts. 😐
Originally posted by Nephthys
let alone a huge rage monster powered by radiation,
Oh yes, because that is "magically" makes him resistant to transfiguration, right?
Originally posted by Nephthys
into an animal?
Much worse happened at the hands of the death eaters during their first war. But, sure, let us pretend that Death Eaters, who did all sorts of heinous magical acts against both magical users and muggles, will some how NOT be able to use transfiguration spells, which is taught to children, because we don't want the Avengers to lose to Harry Potter.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That is notably complex magic,with the task becoming more difficult the more complex the being being transfigured.
You might have a point if the Death Eaters were crappy wizards. Sorry, but your counter-argument is just crap and clearly shows your bias.
Also, you're thinking of "vanishment", not the type of transfiguration I was referring to. Which brings up a another point: Hulk can be vanished and he has no magical resistances in the films. 😐
Now deal with that, too.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Hulk is obviously more complex than even a human. It is unlikely they could transfigure him.
lol! You're trying too hard. Hulk is transfigured quite easily by most Death Eaters. There are two idiots among the Death Eaters: I wouldn't pretend they could do it. Other than that, you have a group of some of the most powerful and capable wizards working as Death Eaters. So there goes that argument of yours. It wasn't even a nice try. I don't know why you thought you could try and pull that on me who is clearly your superior when it comes to the HP universe.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And Hulks utter rage is likely enough to fend off an imperious, which can be resisted by simple willpower.
Yes, because that's the first thing they would try against a supposed "troll", right? There is no other magic that can be tried against Hulk, am I right?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jinks are silly kids stuff. I doubt a Death Eater will be firing off a bat-bogey hex mid-combat.
Yes, stopping the momentum of a charging Hulk is "kid stuff", amirite?
Destroying the ability for a person to think is just "kid stuff", right?
But don't forget about your charms.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Thor takes out the half-apparating dudes (who aren't intangible).
You mean Thor gets taken out by the cloud death eaters who have the option to turn tangible or intangible while in their cloud form, right? Right. That is what you meant. But your Avenger love is too great to admit that this thread is spite.
I really really dislike the MvF, now. It is full of bias. There is no point to come here. No body argues objectively. They only argue for the people they like the most: never for the character that would win.
Look at you: so full of fanboyism that you think the Death Eaters won't transfigure Hulk while also thinking Hulk has a magical immunity to spells because he's "radioactive" (but he's not...or else every single human around him would have gotten cancer and bananas would a Wizard's bane in the HP-verse).
Originally posted by dadudemon
I really really dislike the MvF, now. It is full of bias. There is no point to come here. No body argues objectively. They only argue for the people they like the most: never for the character that would win.
Originally posted by dadudemon
So why is there a class dedicated to teaching students Transfiguration? Apparently, you're trying to downplay transfiguration despite the fact that it is a basic skill taught to children. Oh well, what is new around here? Anything to make the magical users appear weaker, right?
Human transfiguration is the highest form of transfiguration you fool. It would be lolworthy to suggest that anyone taught transfiguration has done it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
By the way, human transfiguration is taught to 6th years at Hogwarts. 😐
Taught does not mean mastered. Viktor Krum, despite being 18 and therefore logically a 7th year and a Triwizard competitor botched a human transfiguration and only managed a head. On a harder target like the Hulk, I sincerely doubt anyone would manage even that.
Besides, it being a 6th year skill means that it was an NEWT subject. Care to prove which Death Eaters took transfiguration for NEWTs? 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh yes, because that is "magically" makes him resistant to transfiguration, right?
Transfiguration increases in difficulty the more complex the thing being transfigured. Considering Hulks unique physiology, I have a hard time imagining it to be anything but impossible to transfigure him.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Much worse happened at the hands of the death eaters during their first war. But, sure, let us pretend that Death Eaters, who did all sorts of heinous magical acts against both magical users and muggles, will some how NOT be able to use transfiguration spells, which is taught to children, because we don't want the Avengers to lose to Harry Potter.
The Death Eaters are also a bunch of inbred brutes who let the likes of Crabb and Goyle join. Either way, I think I've made my point regarding your assumptions that they will be able to perform high-level magic without any proof.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You might have a point if the Death Eaters were crappy wizards. Sorry, but your counter-argument is just crap and clearly shows your bias.Also, you're thinking of "vanishment", not the type of transfiguration I was referring to. Which brings up a another point: Hulk can be vanished and he has no magical resistances in the films. 😐
Now deal with that, too.
I do have a point considering this:
'The intended transformation (t) is directly influenced by bodyweight (a), viciousness (v), wand power (w), concentration (c) and a fifth unknown variable (Z),[3] as described by the following mathematical formula (as taught to first-years at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry).
'
Source: the Philosophers Stone film.
There is no way to prove that a transfiguration would work on Hulk considering no-one has any experience with his unique physiology.
Its the same for human transfiguration obviously, hence why its the highest level of transfiguration taught, higher than Vanishment.
Originally posted by dadudemon
lol! You're trying too hard. Hulk is transfigured quite easily by most Death Eaters. There are two idiots among the Death Eaters: I wouldn't pretend they could do it. Other than that, you have a group of some of the most powerful and capable wizards working as Death Eaters. So there goes that argument of yours. It wasn't even a nice try. I don't know why you thought you could try and pull that on me who is clearly your superior when it comes to the HP universe.
I'm starting to consider that you may just be troll based upon your exaggerated levels of obnoxiousness. Whats up, did you get all teary when we were laughing at you? Cuz thats not our fault. It's yours for being a tard.
Either way, prove up or shut up.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, because that's the first thing they would try against a supposed "troll", right? There is no other magic that can be tried against Hulk, am I right?
You brought it up. You're the stupid one for doing so, not me.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, stopping the momentum of a charging Hulk is "kid stuff", amirite?Destroying the ability for a person to think is just "kid stuff", right?
Are you going to make a point or just allude to one?
Originally posted by dadudemon
But don't forget about your charms.
Bitches don't know about my charms.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You mean Thor gets taken out by the cloud death eaters who have the option to turn tangible or intangible while in their cloud form, right? Right. That is what you meant. But your Avenger love is too great to admit that this thread is spite.
Oh, they do, do they? How about some actual proof. Jesus, all I'm seeing here is some hot air. Admit it, you just wanted some Neph love amirite? Don't worry dude, all stocked and ready to hand out the huggles like cheap cigars. Shits gonna get warm and fuzzy like the dice dangling in your mommas ride.
(nah, but he lightnings the shit out of them, or smacks them with Mjolnir, or tornado's them to death fo realz)
Originally posted by dadudemon
I really really dislike the MvF, now. It is full of bias. There is no point to come here. No body argues objectively. They only argue for the people they like the most: never for the character that would win.
Please Dadudemon-sama, teach us how to debate! Give us a hot frothy face full of schooling! Drown us with your infodong bro!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Look at you: so full of fanboyism that you think the Death Eaters won't transfigure Hulk while also thinking Hulk has a magical immunity to spells because he's "radioactive" (but he's not...or else every single human around him would have gotten cancer and bananas would a Wizard's bane in the HP-verse).
Originally posted by Nephthys
Human transfiguration is the highest form of transfiguration you fool. It would be lolworthy to suggest that anyone taught transfiguration has done it.
You fool, human transfiguration is taught to 6th year children. Only an bias fool would ignore that simply to have his avengie wengies win a silly online debate.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Taught does not mean mastered. Viktor Krum, despite being 18 and therefore logically a 7th year [b]and a Triwizard competitor botched a human transfiguration and only managed a head. On a harder target like the Hulk, I sincerely doubt anyone would manage even that.[/B]
So Viktor is now the following:
1. A Hogwarts student (Hogwarts is among the best wizarding schools in the world).
2. Smart (he's an idiot).
3. A Death Eater (Death Eaters are among the most powerful wizards around).
4. A master at transfiguration.
Nice try, right? Wrong. That was a poor try. It wasn't even worthy of responding to. You failed horribly, logically, and factually.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Besides, it being a 6th year skill means that it was an NEWT subject. care to prove which Death Eaters took transfiguration for NEWTs? 🙂
Care to provide an example of any Death Eater that failed out of Hogwarts? Let me know.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Transfiguration increases in difficulty the more complex the thing being transfigured.
Vanishment.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Considering Hulks unique physiology, I have a hard time imagining it to be anything but impossible to transfigure him.
Of course you'd have a hard time imagining that: you're biased.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The Death Eaters are also a bunch of inbred brutes who let the likes of Crabb and Goyle join.
LOL! They didn't "let" them join, Voldy let them join. 🙂
Originally posted by Nephthys
Either way, I think I've made my poitn regarding your assumptions that they will be able to perform high-level magic without any proof.
You did not make a point at all. You've only proven you suck at both Harry Potter knowledge and logic.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I do have a point considering this:'The intended transformation (t) is directly influenced by bodyweight (a), viciousness (v), wand power (w), concentration (c) and a fifth unknown variable (Z),[3] as described by the following mathematical formula (as taught to first-years at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry).
'
Source: the Philosophers Stone film.
There is no way to prove that a transfiguration would work on Hulk considering no-one has any experience with his unique physiology.
Actually, you have it wrong (surprised?). There is nothing, anywhere, to show that you have to have experience transfiguring an object in order to be able to transfigure it: just have to be able to transfigure and not be an idiot.
Also, that was object transfiguration, now human transfiguration. I believe creature transfiguration is taught somewhere after first year but before 4th year.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Its the same for human transfiguration obviously, hence why its the highest level of transfiguration taught, higher than Vanishment.
Prove that human transfiguration is harder than Vanishment. 😐
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm starting to consider that you may just be troll based upon your exaggerated levels of obnoxiousness.Either way, prove up or shut up.
No, the burden of proof is on you. I've already brought the facts to the table that 6th year students are taught human transfiguration: children. Much less some of the most powerful wizards in the wizarding world. The ball is in your court to prove Hulk can resist the transfiguration (or the other 6 areas of magic).
Originally posted by Nephthys
You brought it up. You're the stupid one for doing so, not me.
U mad? Of course your are: you can't stand that there is someone in this thread that has quickly, swiftly, and decisively shown, clearly, that the Avenger supporters are clearly delusional fanboys. I'm hardly stupid for pointing out that you're twisting my words, hilariously poorly, to support yet another illogical point of yours.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you going to make a point or just allude to one?
Are you going to pretend that there is no point there or are you going to continue to pretend no point was made?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bitches don't know about my charms.
K.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh, they do, do they? How about some actual proof. Jesus, all I'm seeing here is some hot air. Admit it, you just wanted so Neph love amirite? Don't worry dude, all stocked and ready to hand out the huggles like cheap cigars. Shits gonna get warm and fuzzy like the dice dangling in your mommas ride.(nah, but he lightnings the shit out of them, or smacks them with Mjolnir, or tornado's them to death fo realz)
RJ long ago proved it: Snape phased right through the metal gate with some smokiness. Shows quite clearly that the smoke form is can go intangible as they also busted through some brick. Looks like clear "at will" tangibility and intangibility while in smoke form.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Please Dadudemon-sama, teach us how to debate! Give us a hot frothy face full of schooling! Drown us with your infodong juice!
I can't teach you: you're beyond hope. *bites knuckle*
Originally posted by dadudemon
You fool, human transfiguration is taught to 6th year children. Only an bias fool would ignore that simply to have his avengie wengies win a silly online debate.
Foolish fool of a fool, you foolish think that a foolish point made by such a fool as you could stump me? Foolishness. What matters if they are children? There do not appear to any forms of higher magical education in the HPverse. The magics taught at Hogwarts are the highest that we know about barring the super-advanced shit that Dumbledore and Voldemort perform. Theres nothing indicating that these high forms of transfiguration are childplay for Death Eaters. If there are, provide them.
Originally posted by dadudemon
So Viktor is now the following:1. A Hogwarts student (Hogwarts is among the best wizarding schools in the world).
2. Smart (he's an idiot).
3. A Death Eater (Death Eaters are among the most powerful wizards around).
4. A master at transfiguration.Nice try, right? Wrong. That was a poor try. It wasn't even worthy of responding to. You failed horribly, logically, and factually.
1. So is Durmstrang, doofus, duh! Being 'among' the best wizarding schools doesn't really matter for shit when theres only 2 other schools that we know about.
2. He was a Triwizard Champion. He only comes off as goofy because of the language barrier.
3. Proof of the Death Eaters L33T SK1LLZ?
4. And the Death Eaters are? I'd like to see you offer some actual evidence for that.
And yet you did respond to it. The evidence that you crave the Nepimp cock is piling higher and higher.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Care to provide an example of any Death Eater that failed out of Hogwarts? Let me know.
Not failing doesn't mean that they took transfiguration at NEWTs.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Of course you'd have a hard time imagining that: you're biased.
And you are clearly the pinnacle of objectivism. That's the reason for all the hostility. You're obviously a cold, hard fact machine!
Originally posted by dadudemon
LOL! They didn't "let" them join, Voldy let them join. 🙂
BIG FVCKING DIFFERENCE BRO!
Originally posted by dadudemon
You did not make a point at all. You've only proven you suck at both Harry Potter knowledge and logic.
Oh man, these burns hurt so bad bro! You sure got me good!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Actually, you have it wrong (surprised?). There is nothing, anywhere, to show that you have to have experience transfiguring an object in order to be able to transfigure it: just have to be able to transfigure and not be an idiot.Also, that was object transfiguration, now human transfiguration. I believe creature transfiguration is taught somewhere after first year but before 4th year.
Yes, thats why they don't practise spells at all. They're just taught how to transfigure and let loose. You completely understood the purpose of a school. I am so, so proud of you.
Yes, 'viciousness' really sounds like something that applies to a formula for object. This morning my dildo was being a right cow to me. I could barely stomach shoving it up my greasy pooper.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Prove that human transfiguration is harder than Vanishment. 😐
It's taught during NEWTs, not OWLs. You do know what that means right?
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, the burden of proof is on you. I've already brought the facts to the table that 6th year students are taught human transfiguration: children. Much less some of the most powerful wizards in the wizarding world. The ball is in your court to prove Hulk can resist the transfiguration (or the other 6 areas of magic).
Lolwut? You brought up transfiguration, you prove that it would actually work.
Originally posted by dadudemon
U mad? Of course your are: you can't stand that there is someone in this thread that has quickly, swiftly, and decisively shown, clearly, that the Avenger supporters are clearly delusional fanboys. I'm hardly stupid for pointing out that you're twisting my words, hilariously poorly, to support yet another illogical point of yours.
Ahahaha, what a weak deflection. You brought up mindcontrol and then when I pointed out that it wouldn't work on Hulk you acted like I was the stupid one for talking about it. You see, you can't get anything by me bro, I'm the Big Man on court, you're just a weeny white guy with no game.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Are you going to pretend that there is no point there or are you going to continue to pretend no point was made?
Yes.
Originally posted by dadudemon
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Originally posted by dadudemon
RJ long ago proved it: Snape phased right through the metal gate with some smokiness. Shows quite clearly that the smoke form is can go intangible as they also busted through some brick. Looks like clear "at will" tangibility and intangibility while in smoke form.
Forgive me if I don't put any stock in what that feces throwing chimp 'proved'.
Even if thats true, prove that it was actual half-apparating and not some unique thing Snape could do. And then prove that he could sustain it for lengthy periods of time.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I can't teach you: you're beyond hope. *bites knuckle*
I only stayed there once. For like a day. You can't hold that shit against me.
Edit: Looking back at my post, I'm reminded about why I don't like debating you. In a few more posts we're going to devolve into nothing but personal attacks, mark my words. Objective my ass.