As seen in part 1 of TDH (iirc), the Death Eater is still in physical form when flying and surrounded by smoke. So unless they're actively becoming intangible to pass through a grate or fence as pure smoke, they die from bullets just the same, except if the bullet isn't a lethal hit, the fall might be, depending.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why do you think it does not matter if children are taught it as part of basic wizarding education?
Wat? Nononono, first you tell me why it matters, then I'll tell you why it doesn't.
Or at least thats how it should go, if I explain it to you already. There aren't any wizard universities in the HPverse. What they learn in Hogwarts are the skills they use throughout their lives. At least, theres no evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, Dumbledore did no extra-curricular studying, nor did Hermione, nor did Harry, nor did Ron, nor did Voldemort. You got me there. There is no such thing as magical learning post-secondary wizarding education. Derp.
The only thing hinting at any kind of post-Hogwarts study is Auror training, which duh none of the Death Eaters ever did. This is further supported by students taking NEWT's designed to get them the qualifications they need for their careers in Hogwarts, not in a university as is the Muggle tradition.
Other than that, any private study of magic is speculative and cannot be proved to have occurred with any of the Death Eaters.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Prove it: Name all the magic, ever, specifically, seen in the movies, and then label which ones are taught at Hogwarts. Then label which ones not taught at Hogwarts.
No.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I do not expect you to do that. But that should prove more than enough of ignorant you really are.
Yeah, because not performing tedious bullshit just to please you makes me ignorant.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Logical fallacy: strawman. Not once did I say that they were "childplay". You ignore that fact that some of the most powerful and intelligent wizards are Death Eaters while ignoring the fact that children are taught human transfiguration. If it were child's play, they wouldn't have to learn it.
You've repeatedly brought up that the spells are taught to children. Your implication was obvious. Your deceit absolutely reeks.
Other than Bella and Snape, who are these 'most powerful and intelligent wizards'? This is ridiculous. You have no proof that they can perform these spells. I don't know why I'm even bothering with you anymore.
Originally posted by dadudemon
When it is specifically stated that it is among the best, we don't have to know about all the other schools. Durmstrang is known for its studies on Dark Arts, but not for being the all-around school that Hogwarts is.
When is Hogwarts said to be an all-around school? We have no idea what Hogwarts reputation is among the rest of the wizarding community. Dismissing Durmstrang on... having a reputation at all? is ridiculous. It's a good enough school to be competing in the Triwizard competition against Hogwarts. I doubt its intrinsically inferior to it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You're confusing those labels, me thinks: he was selected to participate but he was not the champion. The "champion" label means this:"one that does battle for another's rights or honor"
Additionally, the Goblet does not necessarily choose the most capable/intelligent person to participate in the tournament.
How else does it choose them? Flipping a fvcking coin? The Champion is obviously the one best qualified to compete in the tournament you dippy donut.
Also lol @ that dictionary definition. lololololol
Originally posted by dadudemon
Lastly, Crouch had cast a spell on the GoF that may have caused it to select a no-so-good champion to represent that school.
Speculation.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."
This could simply be because they use forbidden dark magic like the unforgivable curses, which are a huge benefit to them. Unblockable death spells? Mind control? Gimme those tools and I could terrorise the wizarding world. They also have Dementors and other forces on their side.
Plus they only really terrorise Britain. Lets not make them a global threat or anything.
Originally posted by dadudemon
"Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."But, hey, that's just evidence. Don't let that stop you from your anti-Harry Potter rampage. Continue to think that all the Death Eaters are idiots like Crabbe and Goyle. Also, don't let that stop you from Google searching all your knowledge before you reply to me.
I'm not seeing any evidence of transfiguration mastery here. Next time, try bleating like a goat instead of shitting out posts like this. At least that would be funny.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah. I have time and work is boring. Besides, your pretend rebuttal to my points more than shows you really have no idea what you're talking about and your "knowledge" of HP is clearly "right at the moment of post googling".
It's funny because I own all the Harry Potter books in audiobook form and listened to them for years.
It's funny because you're wrong.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Except that it does. They take it every year. It is a core subject.
Not for NEWT's dipshit.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No hostility, at all. But, yes, I am clearly the most objective person posting.
No you are a miserable piece of chimpspunk. How do you get out of your bed in the morning knowing you're the worst thing a universe was ever responsible for? It must be hard on your hands to persistently deal with every mutated set of genitals peppering that husk you pawn off as a body. Has a woman ever looked at you without turning skyward and erupting like a vomit volcano, answer me that. Fvck me you're repulsive. We're seriously like, done, professionally.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think the distinction is quite huge: it wasn't a group decision to let new members in: they were selected and approved by Voldemort: one of the most capable, intelligent, and powerful wizards in history.
I don't care. Or see how that means jack flibberty shit.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree. It is okay.
Sarcasm motherfvcker, do you speak it?!
Originally posted by dadudemon
And yet, you're wrong. Transfiguration is taught pretty much every year.
'Pretty much' being key in that sentence.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I did already. Hulk is not magical nor does he have magical resistances. Therefore, transfiguration spells work on Hulk by any decent Death Eater. Crabbe and Goyle? They probably will not succeed at casting it. I certainly do admit that but I mentioned them, indirectly, in the beginning.You prove Hulk can resist it. That ball is in your court.
I'm never said anything about resisting it you dunkass worthless amoeba. I'm saying that with his unique physiology and the difficulty and preciseness of the spell that the DEs will fail to transfigure him. I've never mentioned Hulk being magical or having resistances of any kind. Motherfvck, sometimes I wonder if you are even a person with eyes that can see words. That is how stupid you come off sometimes. You prick.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Incorrect: you guessed wrong because you want to be right about something (because you have been delivered pwn after pwn). But I never once said, specifically, that they would try to use it on Hulk. Hulk is not the only member of the Avengers, bro. You tried, right?
HERE IS YOUR POST, KITTEN:
'So how is Hulk supposed to be a contender when someone just transforms him into a mouse and stomps on him? Hmm? What about mind control? Hmm? What about Jinxes which only have to thought at a target? Hmm?'
YOU'RE ASKING HOW HULK IS A CONTENDER WHEN PEOPLE CAN AMONG OTHER THINGS MIND CONTROL HIM! YOU THINK I WOULDN'T CALL YOU ON THIS YOU CAKEY BELLEND?! FVCKING OWNED! GET OFF MY COURT!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: you prove that it was something other than "half-apparating". I contend it was because the same "smokey" stuff was seen billowing away form his person. There's also the fact that that they regularly pass though things. It was also to meet with his Death Eater Peeps.Here is how it works: they could not pass through a solid window into, say, a house...unless they tried to do it slowly to pass through all the cracks, nooks, and crannies of the pane and seal. They could pass right through some mesh or something, though. If you try to punch the smoke, not much happens. That's how it works. It is impervious and intangible to physical affects. Nothing Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Ironman, Thor, Captain America have can harm them while in smoke form. And, no, no person was every shown being exhausted from using magic in Harry Potter. Only physical and mental exhaustion from learning how to use magic.
Omgchos already dealt with this. Your submission is expected.
Originally posted by dadudemon
lol!
In my mind those l's are legs pointed up in the air and the o is your gaping vagina right before I jackhammer into it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's not the reason. I made no direct personal attacks against you until you made them. Then, after that, I just parrotted you making my attacks pretty much worthless and without substance. It is like this conversation:"You're towel."
"No, YOU'RE a towel!"
My insults mean nothing and hold no weight.
But, no, the real reason is you realize how much more I know than you do and how silly I have shown you perspectives to be. You loathe it because you don't want me around these parts to show the anti-Twivamp and Harry Potter hate.
I say HP characters be banned from most matches unless low-level students are used and restrictions imposed. I gets stupid/dumb when you involve characters with faster reaction times than any force users. WTF is the point of having characters like that in a vs. debate? It's lame, I say.
Also, you got hyper aggressive and starting laying into me as a fanboy first. As ever, your deceit, it reeks.
Don't know when what happened? I feel like im missing a joke... or am i just crazy?
Rob left me in suspense tho, as to whether or not there's a scene im completely missing. To be honest tho i looked up the scene to prove my own point because i found the whole quasi smoke apparition thing comical. Also suspicions as, iirc, none of the OOTP ever displayed such prowess again, after said movie.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
How about Hulk just Thunderclapping the smoke away? 😛
That could work to delay them, actually.
The fence doesn't dissolve: Snape does.
And the Death Eaters can go partially tangible to completely intangible while in that smoke form. It is an "at will" thing.
So does anyone have a response to all the charms they can use? Anyone? 🙂 What about apparating? OP didn't say Hogwart's anti-magic charms were in place.
Additionally, if you guys want that to be true, Thor's powers don't work along with all technology not working. Here's why: technology doesn't work at Hogwarts.
So, if you want your cake, you can't eat it. If you want to eat it, you can't have cake. 🙂
But, yes, magic with just the mind makes this a curbstomp fest against the avengers. All those jinxes and charms make the avengers lose in about .5 seconds.
Well as iv'e said, there is no apperating in hogwarts. And are you honeslty telling me that snape was smoke, then solidified just to wave his wand at a gate and then he turned to smoke again? Which it doesnt matter because if you do watch the clip the gate is in fact smoke. its still smokey after he walks through it. He however is not showing the slightest trace of being smoke. You can actually see him walking.
No wizard ever actually apparates in combat.
NVM:
This is pretty incontrovertible. 😬
The gate clearly turns to smoke, not Snape.