Avengers vs Death Eaters

Started by dadudemon51 pages
Originally posted by Nephthys
What matters if they are children?

Why do you think it does not matter if children are taught it as part of basic wizarding education?

Originally posted by Nephthys
There do not appear to any forms of higher magical education in the HPverse.

Yeah, Dumbledore did no extra-curricular studying, nor did Hermione, nor did Harry, nor did Ron, nor did Voldemort. You got me there. There is no such thing as magical learning post-secondary wizarding education. Derp.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The magics taught at Hogwarts are the highest that we know about barring the super-advanced shit that Dumbledore and Voldemort perform.

Prove it: Name all the magic, ever, specifically, seen in the movies, and then label which ones are taught at Hogwarts. Then label which ones not taught at Hogwarts.

No, I do not expect you to do that. But that should prove more than enough of ignorant you really are.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres nothing indicating that these high forms of transfiguration are childplay for Death Eaters. If there are, provide them.

Logical fallacy: strawman. Not once did I say that they were "childplay". You ignore that fact that some of the most powerful and intelligent wizards are Death Eaters while ignoring the fact that children are taught human transfiguration. If it were child's play, they wouldn't have to learn it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. So is Durmstrang, doofus, duh! Being 'among' the best wizarding schools doesn't really matter for shit when theres only 2 other schools that we know about.

When it is specifically stated that it is among the best, we don't have to know about all the other schools. Durmstrang is known for its studies on Dark Arts, but not for being the all-around school that Hogwarts is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
2. He was a Triwizard Champion. He only comes off as goofy because of the language barrier.

You're confusing those labels, me thinks: he was selected to participate but he was not the champion. The "champion" label means this:

"one that does battle for another's rights or honor"

Additionally, the Goblet does not necessarily choose the most capable/intelligent person to participate in the tournament. Lastly, Crouch had cast a spell on the GoF that may have caused it to select a no-so-good champion to represent that school.

Originally posted by Nephthys
3. Proof of the Death Eaters L33T SK1LLZ?

Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."

Originally posted by Nephthys
4. And the Death Eaters are? I'd like to see you offer some actual evidence for that.

"Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."

But, hey, that's just evidence. Don't let that stop you from your anti-Harry Potter rampage. Continue to think that all the Death Eaters are idiots like Crabbe and Goyle. Also, don't let that stop you from Google searching all your knowledge before you reply to me.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And yet you did respond to it. The evidence that you crave the Nepimp cock is piling higher and higher.

Nah. I have time and work is boring. Besides, your pretend rebuttal to my points more than shows you really have no idea what you're talking about and your "knowledge" of HP is clearly "right at the moment of post googling".

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not failing doesn't mean that they took transfiguration at NEWTs.

Except that it does. They take it every year. It is a core subject.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And you are clearly the pinnacle of objectivism. That's the reason for all the hostility. You're obviously a cold, hard fact [b]machine![/B]

No hostility, at all. But, yes, I am clearly the most objective person posting.

Originally posted by Nephthys
BIG FVCKING DIFFERENCE BRO!

I think the distinction is quite huge: it wasn't a group decision to let new members in: they were selected and approved by Voldemort: one of the most capable, intelligent, and powerful wizards in history.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, 'viciousness' really sounds like something that applies to a formula for object.

I agree. It is okay.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's taught during NEWTs, not OWLs. You do know what that means right?

And yet, you're wrong. Transfiguration is taught pretty much every year.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lolwut? You brought up transfiguration, you prove that it would actually work.

I did already. Hulk is not magical nor does he have magical resistances. Therefore, transfiguration spells work on Hulk by any decent Death Eater. Crabbe and Goyle? They probably will not succeed at casting it. I certainly do admit that but I mentioned them, indirectly, in the beginning.

You prove Hulk can resist it. That ball is in your court.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahahaha, what a weak deflection. You brought up mindcontrol and then when I pointed out that it wouldn't work on Hulk you acted like I was the stupid one for talking about it. You see, you can't get anything by me bro, I'm the Big Man on court, you're just a weeny white guy with no game.

Incorrect: you guessed wrong because you want to be right about something (because you have been delivered pwn after pwn). But I never once said, specifically, that they would try to use it on Hulk. Hulk is not the only member of the Avengers, bro. You tried, right?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Even if thats true, prove that it was actual half-apparating and not some unique thing Snape could do. And then prove that he could sustain it for lengthy periods of time.

Wrong: you prove that it was something other than "half-apparating". I contend it was because the same "smokey" stuff was seen billowing away form his person. There's also the fact that that they regularly pass though things. It was also to meet with his Death Eater Peeps.

Here is how it works: they could not pass through a solid window into, say, a house...unless they tried to do it slowly to pass through all the cracks, nooks, and crannies of the pane and seal. They could pass right through some mesh or something, though. If you try to punch the smoke, not much happens. That's how it works. It is impervious and intangible to physical affects. Nothing Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Ironman, Thor, Captain America have can harm them while in smoke form. And, no, no person was every shown being exhausted from using magic in Harry Potter. Only physical and mental exhaustion from learning how to use magic.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I only stayed there once. For like a day. You can't hold that shit against me.

lol!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Edit: Looking back at my post, I'm reminded about why I don't like debating you. In a few more posts we're going to devolve into nothing but personal attacks, mark my words. Objective my ass.

That's not the reason. I made no direct personal attacks against you until you made them. Then, after that, I just parrotted you making my attacks pretty much worthless and without substance. It is like this conversation:

"You're towel."

"No, YOU'RE a towel!"

My insults mean nothing and hold no weight.

But, no, the real reason is you realize how much more I know than you do and how silly I have shown you perspectives to be. You loathe it because you don't want me around these parts to show the anti-Twivamp and Harry Potter hate.

I say HP characters be banned from most matches unless low-level students are used and restrictions imposed. I gets stupid/dumb when you involve characters with faster reaction times than any force users. WTF is the point of having characters like that in a vs. debate? It's lame, I say.

Originally posted by omgchos
It's actually more the fact that like maybe 10 people even argue here anymore. So the discussion pool is somewhat limited. Mostly tho i haven't noticed too much of it going on. Comes down to the fact that people keep making the same threads over and over. Seen a shitload of watchmen threads and avengers threads recently.

Riggs>>>>McClane and Hit Girl is a bullet dodger.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Why do you think it does not matter if children are taught it as part of basic wizarding education?

Yeah, Dumbledore did no extra-curricular studying, nor did Hermione, nor did Harry, nor did Ron, nor did Voldemort. You got me there. There is no such thing as magical learning post-secondary wizarding education. Derp.

Prove it: Name all the magic, ever, specifically, seen in the movies, and then label which ones are taught at Hogwarts. Then label which ones not taught at Hogwarts.

No, I do not expect you to do that. But that should prove more than enough of ignorant you really are.

Logical fallacy: strawman. Not once did I say that they were "childplay". You ignore that fact that some of the most powerful and intelligent wizards are Death Eaters while ignoring the fact that children are taught human transfiguration. If it were child's play, they wouldn't have to learn it.

When it is specifically stated that it is among the best, we don't have to know about all the other schools. Durmstrang is known for its studies on Dark Arts, but not for being the all-around school that Hogwarts is.

You're confusing those labels, me thinks: he was selected to participate but he was not the champion. The "champion" label means this:

"one that does battle for another's rights or honor"

Additionally, the Goblet does not necessarily choose the most capable/intelligent person to participate in the tournament. Lastly, Crouch had cast a spell on the GoF that may have caused it to select a no-so-good champion to represent that school.

Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."

"Terrorizing the entire wizarding world and bringing both the wizarding world and human world to near total destruction/rule is a pretty clear indication of their supremacy. But don't let that fool you into thinking they are even decent."

But, hey, that's just evidence. Don't let that stop you from your anti-Harry Potter rampage. Continue to think that all the Death Eaters are idiots like Crabbe and Goyle. Also, don't let that stop you from Google searching all your knowledge before you reply to me.

Nah. I have time and work is boring. Besides, your pretend rebuttal to my points more than shows you really have no idea what you're talking about and your "knowledge" of HP is clearly "right at the moment of post googling".

Except that it does. They take it every year. It is a core subject.

No hostility, at all. But, yes, I am clearly the most objective person posting.

I think the distinction is quite huge: it wasn't a group decision to let new members in: they were selected and approved by Voldemort: one of the most capable, intelligent, and powerful wizards in history.

I agree. It is okay.

And yet, you're wrong. Transfiguration is taught pretty much every year.

I did already. Hulk is not magical nor does he have magical resistances. Therefore, transfiguration spells work on Hulk by any decent Death Eater. Crabbe and Goyle? They probably will not succeed at casting it. I certainly do admit that but I mentioned them, indirectly, in the beginning.

You prove Hulk can resist it. That ball is in your court.

Incorrect: you guessed wrong because you want to be right about something (because you have been delivered pwn after pwn). But I never once said, specifically, that they would try to use it on Hulk. Hulk is not the only member of the Avengers, bro. You tried, right?

Wrong: you prove that it was something other than "half-apparating". I contend it was because the same "smokey" stuff was seen billowing away form his person. There's also the fact that that they regularly pass though things. It was also to meet with his Death Eater Peeps.

Here is how it works: they could not pass through a solid window into, say, a house...unless they tried to do it slowly to pass through all the cracks, nooks, and crannies of the pane and seal. They could pass right through some mesh or something, though. If you try to punch the smoke, not much happens. That's how it works. It is impervious and intangible to physical affects. Nothing Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Ironman, Thor, Captain America have can harm them while in smoke form. And, no, no person was every shown being exhausted from using magic in Harry Potter. Only physical and mental exhaustion from learning how to use magic.

lol!

That's not the reason. I made no direct personal attacks against you until you made them. Then, after that, I just parrotted you making my attacks pretty much worthless and without substance. It is like this conversation:

"You're towel."

"No, YOU'RE a towel!"

My insults mean nothing and hold no weight.

But, no, the real reason is you realize how much more I know than you do and how silly I have shown you perspectives to be. You loathe it because you don't want me around these parts to show the anti-Twivamp and Harry Potter hate.

I say HP characters be banned from most matches unless low-level students are used and restrictions imposed. I gets stupid/dumb when you involve characters with faster reaction times than any force users. WTF is the point of having characters like that in a vs. debate? It's lame, I say.

Lol, you mad because everything he said is true. "Anti Potter rampage" indeed.

Rah-rah man.

Originally posted by Robtard
Rah-rah man.
OK then, let's get into it. Quote each part/s of his post that are inaccurate.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
OK then, let's get into it. Quote each part/s of his post that are inaccurate.

Like you, I didn't read his post (at least not yet), only skimmed, rah-rah.

Originally posted by Robtard
Like you, I didn't read his post (at least not yet), only skimmed, rah-rah.
Lol, look at the gif closely.

Observe, think, post. Try that for once.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, look at the gif closely.

Observe, think, post. Try that for once.

Obviously my jab at your rah-rahs hit a spot. I take it back, please ignore the tranny-cheerleader pic.

Originally posted by Robtard
Obviously my jab at your rah-rahs hit a spot. I take it back, please ignore the tranny-cheerleader pic.
Aaaaaaaaaand he dodges.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Aaaaaaaaaand he dodges.

Once someone apologies and takes back what they said that upset you in the first place, it's poor form to try egg on the fight more.

Topic:

Originally posted by Robtard
Once someone apologies and takes back what they said that upset you in the first place, it's poor form to try egg on the fight more.

Topic:

Lol, ironic that you said nothing after:

Topic:

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, ironic that you said nothing after:

Topic:

How is it ironic to go back to the topic?

Originally posted by Robtard
How is it ironic to go back to the topic?
Like any and all Potter thread/s, that went right over your pretty little head.

Knew it.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Like any and all Potter thread/s, that went right over your pretty little head.

Knew it.

LoL, you though you were embarrassing me by saying I 'didn't understand what you meant', when I did and what I meant with "topic:" was that I was extending the first 'back-on-topic' post to you, which you failed to grasp. So all you did was end up embarrassing yourself, instead of me. That's irony.

Anyhow. Ball's in your court again.

Topic: <--- that's me giving you first go again.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you though you were embarrassing me by saying I 'didn't understand what you meant', when I did and what I meant with "topic:" was that I was extending the first 'back-on-topic' post to you, which you failed to grasp. So all you did was end up embarrassing yourself, instead of me. That's irony.

Anyhow. Balls in your court again.

Topic: <--- that's me giving you first go.

Knew that would rile you.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Knew that would rile you.

Let it go, it was just a pic of a tranny cheerleader.

Originally posted by Robtard
Once someone apologies and takes back what they said that upset you in the first place, it's poor form to try egg on the fight more.

Topic:

Did any Death Eater(excluding Barty) use human transfiguration?

Originally posted by dadudemon
So how is Hulk supposed to be a contender when someone just transforms him into a mouse and stomps on him? Hmm? What about mind control? Hmm? What about Jinxes which only have to thought at a target? Hmm? What about the fact that the Death Eaters can turn into spell casting intangible smoke clouds? Hmm? Did anyone address that? Hmm? Anyone? Oh, that's right, a bunch of annoying Avenger fanboys have been arguing for pages while ignoring pretty much anything the magical users have.

did I say hulk was going to win this fight? No. Did I say Hulk wouldn't get killed? Not at all. What I did say was more then likely the death eaters would see him and think of him in the same regard as an ogre or a monster. This would mean they would probably want to target him first as they may feel he is the biggest threat by comparison. That would leave openings even if only small openings for the others to get off an attack. Thor is the only one that really needs to anyways.

To address your other point I disagree. It's more like a bunch of Harry Potter Fanboys round here because apparently death eaters can't be beaten. I don't think anyone on here is saying that the avengers can't be beaten/killed. Anyways your saying that death eaters can't be hurt because as soon as the bell rings they will turn into black flying smoke and kill everyone?! Don't even try and sell that. Prove to me they spent the majority of their fights and attacks in that form, prove to me that it is entirely in character for the death eaters to fight a small group of people entirely in that form and I will submit.