Peter is smarter and much better with prep. A lot of his recent innovations and wins have nothing to do with his powers. He'd do better, because the ceiling on his prep is higher. Steve would just get better physical stats. He'd be more effective, but not ridiculously so. Pete's physical dropoff would be somewhat noticeable; but again, we're talking about small degrees compared to prep potential. Pete remains the more dangerous opponent overall.
Guys, remember, we're not talking about who would win, but who would outperform the other by a larger margin in the opposite body. Cap would be a more disciplined spider-fighter. Pete would be less exciting physically, but still brilliant inventor.
ACTUALLY, would Cap even do better? Web-shooters...nonexistent. Tracers, ditto. Various suits and augmentations, same. Pheremone blockers, freeze cannisters, sonic repellents, etc. I could go on. So, for example, when Pete recently no-sold Hydroman with a dinky little web-shot that changed his entire physical structure...how does Cap even win that fight?! Or when he countered Urich's sonic scream, an attack that nearly KO'd him every other time....how does Cap win? He doesn't. He'd wade in with his American flag and get his ass handed to him. Or the "Ends of the Earth" suit, that was armor + counters for about a dozen different power sets of his villains.
Steve's a dinosaur compared to Pete. I don't mean in age, but in technical versatility. He'd be a webless Spider-Man with slightly better discipline and tactical intelligence. Pete would trick himself out and probably end up being more powerful than Cap in SM's body.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Steve. Even with Parkers prep Steve is still more of a threat. I can potentially see him putting down class 100s with his stat.increase
You mean like Pete has in the past? We're not talking about a huge leap, just a small one.
Originally posted by golem370
Steve training was with the SSS if he doesn't get the serum he doesn't get the training.
In that case, this thread is a stomp in favor of Parker.
Originally posted by golem370
Well maybe I mean he might learn to fight well as Spider-Man.
Sure, he might, and probably would. It wouldn't be a huge increase in overall power, though, and the lack of any tech would hurt him. I think Steve's Spider-Man would be less powerful than Peter's, for the aforementioned reasons. There's dozens of fights he's won ONLY because he's a brilliant inventor, that would have been impossible with his power set alone regardless of skill. Not to mention the hundreds of times webbing has saved him, which Steve wouldn't have.
I been wondering this when Steve became Captain America did his mind also become peak human? I would see Steve still going with a USA theme outfit because he was gun ho before the SSS right? If I made this Spider-Man with the webbing apart of his abilities it would make it a closer fight right? Peter made his tools aka webbing tracers armor and stuff like that.
@Sin: It's mostly because peter didn't have the resources to pull off awesome prep feats until recently(by the way, he still had his prep feats before getting hired at the lab) but he's a legit Marvel genius. If anything he could remake the spider armor that made him as strong as the rhino, regardless of which body he's in.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
meh i just dont see it....parker didnt start raking up the prep till recently, for years he's been portrayed as smart but was always depicted as lax...if steve gets the same basic tools as peter, imo he still tools him.
What do you mean by "tools him?" Because...
Originally posted by Digi
...remember, we're not talking about who would win, but who would outperform the other by a larger margin in the opposite body.
If nothing else, Pete invented web-shooters WAY back, so there's that. Personally, I think webbing is a bigger deal than any meager skill increase Cap might provide. And keep in mind, according to OP, Cap doesn't even get his training, which is the only thing that was keeping this close imo.
Also, the point needs to be made, Pete's recent prep feats have been good, but they are his actual feats. Trying to discount them entirely is incomplete. Only choosing to look at an era that helps your opinion is, well, selection bias.