Peter Parker vs Steve Rogers

Started by Blair Wind11 pages

Everything Digi has said is 100% correct.

Spider-man without webbing is a strong guy with spider sense. His combat speed is reduced (lack of web pulls), and his fighting is limited to the ground or climbing buildings. Steve would simply get an upgrade in physical ability but if he has to face Parker's enemies, he wouldn't have the resources to win. Parker would get a downgrade, but he'd build technology to cover the gap + have webshooters, traces, etc.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Everything Digi has said is 100% correct.

Spider-man without webbing is a strong guy with spider sense. His combat speed is reduced (lack of web pulls), and his fighting is limited to the ground or climbing buildings. Steve would simply get an upgrade in physical ability but if he has to face Parker's enemies, he wouldn't have the resources to win. Parker would get a downgrade, but he'd build technology to cover the gap + have webshooters, traces, etc.

You make it seem like Parkers rogues are beyond Steve. Id wager without the upgrade he'd still be as effective, he'd just have to adjust tactics slightly. Your talking about the best tactician in comics against an average prepper. I still haven't seen a convincing argument for Parker other than "zomg Parker particles, rhino busting suit". Scans of him reverse engineering anything? Hed be the same teenager with weaker stats thrust into the frontlines. You can't cherry pick and say "oh well he won't have to fight he'd be in the lab developing weapons". Not likely, if he's taking the role of CA then his job would be to lead the troops. Sure he'd survive maybe. But not with the same panache that Steve displayed. Plus his aversion to killing won't necessarily help him when he's pinned down by machine gun fire.

Any symbiote would work Cap over.

Yeah, they're not giving the SSS to Peter so that he can work in a lab....he's going to be on the front lines.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yeah, they're not giving the SSS to Peter so that he can work in a lab....he's going to be on the front lines.
Well when they find out he's smarter than anyone they have working for them that might change.

Seriously...in his bedroom, he created his webshooters and web fluid etc. Imagine what he could do with Army resources, during a war.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Seriously...in his bedroom, he created his webshooters and web fluid etc. Imagine what he could do with Army resources, during a war.

Nothing, because he'd be to busy fighting for his life on the front lines.

The argument would also be said is lets take a look at Parker with the spider powers... Other then his web shooters what I'd he really do tech wise for the first two decades of his career?!

His recent inventions? Would he have even have survived to today without his spidey powers. It wasn't like he was making a green goblin suit to battle his enemies. When Parker needed help he always went to other minds like reed, beast, or even doc Connors.

The big question is the gear. Does Steve lose his shield? Cause if he does the. That's the biggest upset to caps power set.

When Parker went to other geniuses it was to use their equipment.

I think there is to many what ifs in this? And if there lives are changed just to many to factors IMO. But Steve can do pretty well as long as his character is still the same.

I mean Steve when the chips were down. He would use prep from others like Army weapons, Shield tech, Avengers tech, Jets, Ironman armor, Tony Starks vibranium shield, energy shield, to even SHIELD itself. Or even on the "fly" prep by picking up Thor's hammer. Through out his career he definitely would get resources and easily to boot. Even a entire intergalactic army against future Korvac because of his ability to be a leader and coordinate efforts to bring him down.

His character and leadership gives him many teammates and many....many resources or options for some of the worst case scenarios.

The old saying, " I know a guy that knows a guy."

Spiderman doesn't really have the type of resources or connections that Steve can achieve easily. So I can see him failing a lot of Steve's battles/missions if he tries to go "solo." He's more of a loner in comparison. Yes Spiderman has worked on teams, to even lead teams and has friends that can provide resources but nothing re motley the same in comparison to Steve.

Pete might gain the SSS abilities. But he can't acquire the character traits and personality that allows Steve to gain the trust, admiration and respect of many. That you either have it or you don't.

Steve was born with it.

^Who can Steve go to for help that Spiderman can't?

Anyone that really matters and Peter could just as easily, maybe even easier, get in contact with. He has close ties with F4, Avengers, and X-men.

And if you can get Wolverine to like you, you can get anyone to.

What happened when Aunt May was dying?

He pulled out his little black book. Even managed to get to Doom.

And if we REALLY want to talk about resources, he was part of the FF.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What happened when Aunt May was dying?

He pulled out his little black book. Even managed to get to Doom.

And if we REALLY want to talk about resources, he was part of the FF.

And Avengers, and has worked with the X-men multiple times.

Pretty sure Loki and Doom still owe Spiderman a favor.

Peter has at least as many people he could go to as Cap does, probably more.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What happened when Aunt May was dying?

He pulled out his little black book. Even managed to get to Doom.

And if we REALLY want to talk about resources, he was part of the FF.

True. The fantastic four is practically the guy's family. That's all the resources one needs.

I'm starting to think Spiderman has the widest connection in Marvel comics, the guy knows everyone...

He's the Nightwing of Marvel.

He's the Kevin Bacon of Marvel. Everyone's connected to him by six degrees of separation or less 😂

Peter can organize and lead a intergalactic space armada. His jokes will seal the deal that's for sure.

Who would use their powers best should be extremely obvious.

Cap is pretty much the perfect example of the hard training focused tap your full potential hero. Parker is the one with tons of potential but torn in all directions and relying on base abilities and instinct rather than skill, occational bursts of genius nonwithstanding.

Connections... We are lucky Parker was not in WWII or he would have made some deal with Mephisto to recton the war away too. Boo-hoo, my friends are getting shot I must stop this.

I'm still a little confused about the thread. Are they completely switching lives? Like since Pete is in the army fighting in ww, does cap start off losing his uncle and has to take care of his recently widowed aunt? In that case I don't see Steve leaving her for the army. Also if cap is in the 60's would he even want to? Since the majority of the country was against the war wouldn't Steve go with the American people and protest.