Originally posted by rotiartPeter created most of his tech, aside from the recent stuff, when he was still in highschool.
Yeah so Peter ends up in the military... At a young age....Means that he doesn't get all the scientific background that the current Spider-Man has... Which completely derails all his scientific feats.
Originally posted by rotiart
Yeah so Peter ends up in the military... At a young age....Means that he doesn't get all the scientific background that the current Spider-Man has... Which completely derails all his scientific feats.
Wouldn't it also mean that he'd of been in training when Ben died, so he wouldn't have the guilt of letting Ben's killer get away earlier?
Without that guilt, he wouldn't be nearly as driven to be a superhero.
I've read in some of these replies that steve will simply get tech backing from shield and its a major double standard that pete seems to only be able to use his.
Well think of it this way, does Captain America have access to high tech equip now? Yes
Does he use it to his advantage or include it as a part of his arsenal most of the times? Hell No.
Major difference between the two is that even with superpowers, Peter is more prone to actually use tech as oppose to just having access to it. That's why that double standard argument wouldn't work.
Well here is the thing
If you are saying we have to factor leadership + avengers + years of experience to gage Cap's success, you are just basically interpreting this thread as current 616 captain america with Spider-man's powers.
Why? because you can't be sure he even follows even similar path to what he took on 616.
Strategic mind? How would having the ability to win almost all skirmishes by himself forge his experience in applying strategy. It's gonna basically take a toll on the "difficulty" of most situations it'll be on. There's not gonna be challenges he couldn't just blitz.
Avengers, Shield? Steve survived getting frozen in ice for that long due to SSS. Would spider-powers enable him to do the same? Were not even sure so the prospect of him living long enough to meet the avengers or shield is iffy.
Martial Arts? Sure he could pick those up but the range of knowledge on them would be scarce compared to what we have now. But even if he does, most of the challenges ww2 will throw at him will be like child's play due to spider-reflexes and spider-sense making the prospect of learning martial arts he wouldn't have the chance to use impractical.
There's not current 616 trait in Captain America that will translate just as good with this scenario compared to Peter's intelligence and tech reliance(except martial prowess of course) because the spider-powers will shape his experiences up too differently.
Then there's tech, which i covered.
Why? because you can't be sure he even follows even similar path to what he took on 616.
This just shows you want a way out. This same logic could apply to Pete. Maybe he won't have time for Science and since he is in the military will focus on combat/warfare/leadership/ and training with loads of experience.
No you didn't really cover tech. Cap has prepared many times with flying vests, quin jets, energy shield, gernades, guns, Choppers, Jets, Gas masks, Suits. He's probably prepared more times with mundane equipment then the times Spidey has used inventions. Plus he has prepared very well when the times really require it.
Like when the SSS was degenerating so he used a very advanced Ironman suit created by Tony Stark.
He prepares when he has to but most of the time he can get the job done either by himself or with his teammates. Heck recently he had Thor go save a crowd in Uncanny Avengers 1 and then ordered Havok to blast him on his shield to get to where he needs to be.
Steve may not have the power of Thor or energy of Havok. But the guy can lead better and train better then most. If you want to take away Cap's ability on what he does with his intellect. Then you have to take away Parkers science angle as well.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Steve survived getting frozen in ice for that long due to SSS.
Wrong. Cap was injected during WW2 by Hydra with the lazourus immortal formula.
Steve always thought it was the SSS but one of the Hydra Scientist told him it was there formula that kept him alive all those years. Spiderman does not get the other one in this thread so he better not get frozen. 🙂
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Wrong. Cap was injected during WW2 by Hydra with the lazourus immortal formula.Steve always thought it was the SSS but one of the Hydra Scientist told him it was there formula that kept him alive all those years. Spiderman does not get the other one in this thread so he better not get frozen. 🙂
I had no idea about that.
Is that nazi serum still in his bloodstream?
Originally posted by Mindset
Of course a dirty nazi would take credit for America's work.
Dr. Reinstein never took credit for making a immortal being. Plus they have a character that lived as long as Steve did as well. Cap fought him in WW2. And Cap refaught him after being unfrozen. He was the same age as Cap, as they say the proof is in the pudding.
Originally posted by Daredevil1You sound like a Nazi.
Dr. Reinstein never took credit for making a immortal being. Plus they have a character that lived as long as Steve did as well. Cap fought him in WW2. And Cap refaught him after being unfrozen. He was the same age as Cap, as they say the proof is in the pudding.