Home field advantage, stealth nighttime advantage, numbers advantage, intellect advantage, equipment/gadgets advantage (fear toxin, knock out gas), the more I think about it, the more I support Cap to fall more than not against this team. Taking many/most of them out, sure, but all of them, not more than not, not to me he doesnt.
Originally posted by Dolos
No, he's a realistic human being. There's a difference.
Not really since being realistic normal humans are what make superhuman cap above them and give him the arguable edge over numbers.
With the force of caps throw he could one shot a couple of them with the shield if not 'realistically' take a head off of one of them.
The Nolan films were made to be more realistic and in that bring even their strongest and most agile still under caps level. It's something close to a trained adult fighting a group of kids.. Can they bring him down? Only if he let's them or screws up.
Curious what will happen if he gets hit with fear gas.. If he sees a bunch of red skulls I think he might end up murderering these people giving them the ol super soldier haymaker. Something their all to normal selves are not ready for.
Originally posted by DTM
Home field advantage, stealth nighttime advantage, numbers advantage, intellect advantage, equipment/gadgets advantage (fear toxin, knock out gas), the more I think about it, the more I support Cap to fall more than not against this team. Taking most of them out, sure, but all of them, not more than not, not to me he doesnt.
Yeah now that I think about it his metabolism can't fight off an opiate like Scarecrow's weaponized fear toxin. That's thousands of times more effective than intoxication by alchoholic beverages.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Scarecrow will likely find it hard to use the toxin, seeing as he'll be taking a shield induced nap.
Come on dude he doesn't know Scarescrow's fear toxin...he'll walk right up while Cap is overpowering Bane and surprise!!!! Cap is now tripping ham and Bane does to him what Batman did to Bane - SPARTAAA KICK!!!
Movie vs Forum rules state the opponents have basic knowledge of each other. So Cap knows about the toxin. And there's no way Bane occupies Cap's time for more than a few moments. He gets ko'd just like everyone else. And Scarecrow gets a shield to the face.
And as for night time advantage, Cap has better sense than anyone here, so that won't help them. If anything it'll help him.
Originally posted by DTM
Agreed. The only real way for Cap to beat everyone hese is if he has info on all of them from the get go, and they have none on him. With that advantage, Id give Cap my vote, but as it is here, Team Bats in the end takes him down. Just too many advantages in this scenario for Cap to overcome.
Those advantages being that they are slower, less durable and weaker.
Originally posted by DTM
Yes, each, but all together, with all their other advantages combined, I believe they are enough to overcome Cap. Cap has the only advantage, he is their physical superior, while they have several against him in return.
The only advantage they have is that there are more of them, but that isn't really a big advantage seeing as most of them would be ko'd the first time they're hit and none of them have the hitting power needed to ko Cap in a timely manner.
Cap held off dozens of aliens with laser rifles. What can team Nolan do? And they will literally be knocked out in one or two punches by him. Bane's probably the only one who can take more than one.
No one is fast enough to dodge his shield.
Not one of them has anything that can threaten him from a distance.
They have no way of winning.
Originally posted by DTMTo defeat them he only needs to be their physical superior. And he is. By leaps and bounds.
Yes, each, but all together, with all their other advantages combined, I believe they are enough to overcome Cap. Cap has the only advantage, he is their physical superior, while they have several against him in return.