Captain America vs. Nolan's Batman trilogy team

Started by DTM17 pages

Getting drunk off WW2 beer and being immune to Scarecrows fear toxin are apples and oranges to me. 🙂

His metabolism being that great isn't though. It's stated on screen that no matter how much he drinks, he can't get drunk. Even if he is affected, which is not a 100% guarantee, The effects more than likely won't be as powerful, and won't last long at all.

But that's beside the point. Scarecrow doesn't get to use his gas because Cap nearly kills him while holding back.

Again, he'll never get the chance to use it as Cap would ko him in 1 hit.

Thats where the planning stage for Team Bats comes in real handy, during which time they could devise several methods for getting such toxin, or Batmans KO darts, into Cap. 🙂 Heck, Crane could give a sample of the toxin to each member of his team before they even come close to Cap, again, they are fighting in a city, its not all of them together in a boxing ring here, they do have time to communicate and plan out their strategy before confronting their single superior powered foe here. 🙂

KO darts aren't standard for Batman. Even if they were, how would anyone else use them aside from trying to stab him with them?

And they'll have more trouble finding and keeping up with Cap than he does with them.

Again, turning this into a prep battle is a bad idea, because Cap has access to far better equipment than they do.

Er, Cap has access to better equipment, in this city, in this setting? Cap basically has his shield and thats it, dont see how any prep at all can help Cap here. And Im not turning this into a "prep battle" but Im also not turning into a "everyone charge into battle" battle either. Team Bats has advantages that they are sure to use here, charging headlong into a fight isnt one of them.

Originally posted by KingD19
And they'll have more trouble finding and keeping up with Cap than he does with them.

I severely disagree with you on this, the first part at least.

Caps tacitly better in every way compared to them and his shield is all he will need since they have nothing to counter act it.

OK, clearly nothing Im saying either matters to you guys, or makes any sense (which is a shame, since I think I made some pretty good arguments here). 😛 So like I said before, I have no choice but to agree to disagree, and move on here.

It makes sense that you're trying to argue for the side you want to win. But your argument isn't that strong if you've watched all 3 Batman movies, and watched Captain America and Avengers.

You seem to be forgetting that the Batman team is a horrible group when it comes to actual teamwork.

Because everyone on that team has been an enemy of, or betrayed Batman at some point.

Joker's batshit insane. (Killed Batman's girlfriend and turned all of Gotham against him)

Bane is just a hired goon. (Broke his back)

Ra's thinks he knows better than everyone else.(Betrayed Batman)

Catwoman is useless.(Betrayed Batman)

And Scarecrow is also worthless.

They will not be able to work as a cohesive unit.

Originally posted by DTM
Er, Cap has access to better equipment, in this city, in this setting? Cap basically has his shield and thats it, dont see how any prep at all can help Cap here. And Im not turning this into a "prep battle" but Im also not turning into a "everyone charge into battle" battle either. Team Bats has advantages that they are sure to use here, charging headlong into a fight isnt one of them.

Seeing as "this setting" is you changing the thread so that the team will have a better chance, then I have just as much right to make changes to help Cap.

How am I changing the setting to suit my needs? Youre adding unknown equipment to Cap, Im not giving anyone on Team Bats anything that they didnt use in their films. The setting Im referring to is what the OP has set up, they are fighting in Gotham City and at night, Im not MAKING this fight take place there and then, the OP has set it up as such. Im not adding anything to anyone that they havent been shown to have or use in their films.

And NO, I am not arguing for the side I want to win, Im arguing for the side I unbiasedly think has the better chance to win. Big difference there.

For the record, I Love movie Cap, Im a big fan of him from both his movie and The Avengers. Hes my favorite character in Marvels series of films, and personally I feel like Im giving him tons of credit here, the same cannot be said from you guys to anyone on Batmans team.

Originally posted by DTM
unbiasedly
Doubtful.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Doubtful.

Nope, Truthful.

Cap's new suit was provided by SHIELD. They could provide him with firearms aside from his shield as he's shown proficiency in using them.

.......wha? So youre fighting for Cap to have SHIELD weaponry here? Because, why?

I mean hey, if the OP in the first post said Cap gets SHIELD equipment, totally cool, but to just give him such weaponry, when he was never shown to use it from the films, its highly dubious, not to mention perplexing.

Originally posted by DTM
How am I changing the setting to suit my needs? Youre adding unknown equipment to Cap, Im not giving anyone on Team Bats anything that they didnt use in their films. The setting Im referring to is what the OP has set up, they are fighting in Gotham City and at night, Im not MAKING this fight take place there and then, the OP has set it up as such. Im not adding anything to anyone that they havent been shown to have or use in their films.

And NO, I am not arguing for the side I want to win, Im arguing for the side I unbiasedly think has the better chance to win. Big difference there.

For the record, I Love movie Cap, Im a big fan of him from both his movie and The Avengers. Hes my favorite character in Marvels series of films, and personally I feel like Im giving him tons of credit here, the same cannot be said from you guys to anyone on Batmans team.

The OP makes no mention of prep time or the teams being on opposite sides of the city, that is you changing the thread.

He also didnt make any mention they all started on a single rooftop of one building either. I assumed if the fight is taking place in an area as big as Gotham City, then they wouldnt all be starting within 20 feet of one another.

Im not saying theyre 25 miles apart, Im not even suggesting Batman is going to go to the batcave and load up with Batwings and Batmobiles, but Im also not suggesting (unless the OP says as such) that they are all fighting nose to nose from the first seconds of the fight.

If the OP wishes to specify how far apart in Gotham City they all start, that would be great, otherwise Im assuming he wouldnt give us a Big City for them to fight in if theyre all fighting in a single alley or rooftop.

There are forum rules that state what distance all opponents start at. Unless the OP states otherwise.