All New X-men 2012 / Uncanny X-men 2013

Originally posted by peejayd

* and with the time setting "ten days ago", we will now witness the time when they freed Emma in prison... and the Scott-Emma loveteam died with it... funny, Emma does not even show any gratitude to them for saving her, ok... she's the White Queen and i completely understand her for being angry because Scott betrayed her, blindsided her and took her portion of the PF... but, bringing back the AvX event? blaming Scott for the death of Xavier? that's super late... and Scott should've rebutted, "ok, so you want to admit that it was me who killed Xavier and not the Phoenix? then admit first that it was really you who flirted and goaded Namor to attack Wakanda, it was really you who wanted the X-men to worship you and it was really who wanted to just burn the earth and restart the mutant race!" there are many points that Emma can be angry at Scott but not because of Charles' death... i just hate the script...

And, Emma's the one that ****ed Namor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And, Emma's the one that ****ed Namor.

* figuratively and mentally --- yes... and all it took was one physical kiss, and Namor was completely blinded... i might have been missing something, i might be wrong but i already like Emma so i would like to think that as per the revelation in UX by Gillen that Emma ****ed (and used) Namor only in their minds and not physically... at least, Emma is still more faithful to Scott than Jean...

* anyway, for the fourth issue, the cover of the preview depicts a fight between the O5 Scott and the current Scott... and yes, according to ninjak, the writer intentionally screwed up the powers of the current Scott so that the O5 Scott would actually stand a chance... but eitherway, if it's Scott vs Scott, they cannot hurt themselves with their powers so it would boil down to h2h, and the current one can still kick the butt of the O5 one...

I dunno. Jean might have been emotionally torn, but she never outright had sex with anyone.

I might be wrong, but when I read it, it was implied that Namor and Emma actually slept together.

I'm confused. Why does Beast have a fatal mutation? Is this going to be a call back to his original experiment + Maddicks experimentation + Pestilence virus + manipulation by Infectia? At what point is Beast trying to change time?

Also gotta point out that Mags isn't Erik, he's Max and Jean is developing, that makes Wolverine and Cyclops ephebophiles, not pedophiles.

It's the evolution of his mutation. Like when he went from gorilla to cat? It's just another one, but this one is a lot more painful, and he's afraid it might be too much for him.

But his mutation in its current state is unnatural since his genes have been majorly ****ed with at least four times. Currently their basically the result of a aggressive virus.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
But his mutation in its current state is unnatural since his genes have been majorly ****ed with at least four times. Currently their basically the result of a aggressive virus.

All the mutants involved are having re-alignments in mutant abilities.

Though I agree to a degree, Beast's manipulation of his own mutation could well be the cause of him dying from his gift.

And on the subject Scott's new version of his Optic Blast...does that have anything to do with the X on his visor in the early Avengers promo shots?
Or is that visage Havok?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I might be wrong, but when I read it, it was implied that Namor and Emma actually slept together.

So it was on the astral plane. I still don't think that's excusable, given that Scott, as much as, if not more than anyone, would know how real that is to a telepath.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So it was on the astral plane. I still don't think that's excusable, given that Scott, as much as, if not more than anyone, would know how real that is to a telepath.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So it was on the astral plane. I still don't think that's excusable, given that Scott, as much as, if not more than anyone, would know how real that is to a telepath.

* yep, they had sex telepathically, and Emma admitted that when she and Scott were having a dinner in their minds while the AvX finale was going on... weird, Emma even wanted to storytell to Scott the "details" of her intimacy with Namor, hadn't Scott angrily interrupted her narration... and afterwards, Scott somehow poisoned her drink --- paralleling him blindsiding Emma and taking her portion of the PF in the true battle...

* very real to a telepath, true, (no wonder Jean was so pissed off in the Scott-Emma affair) and i hate every single bit of it... and come to think of it, they could've removed Namor from the X-men a long time ago (just to save the Scott-Emma relationship), just like they did when the PF left Namor (he just basically disappeared from the story)... Namor's absent because his relationship with Emma is not needed anymore... and i'll be damned if he comes back for Emma now... screw you, you fishman-****, don't ever come back... 😠

Originally posted by the ninjak
Though I agree to a degree, Beast's manipulation of his own mutation could well be the cause of him dying from his gift.

And on the subject Scott's new version of his Optic Blast...does that have anything to do with the X on his visor in the early Avengers promo shots?
Or is that visage Havok?

* yep, because Hank is an intelligent douche, he just simply f***ed up his own mutation... it's his own fault that his own mutation is killing him... but that fact is still unexplained on-panel iirc...

* Havok, could be... but his signature energy color is supposed to be blue, not red... sadly, i still think it's Scott since the cover for the upcoming Uncanny X-men this 2013 was already released, and it depicts Cyclops with his new costume, art by Bachalo... 😘 how tacky can Marvel get? they kept Scott's skullcap (he looks much better without it) and now they f***ed up his visor... and he looks like an alien religious leader...

I'm pretty sure Emma told him because a part of her still loved him, and she felt bad for what she'd done, so wanted his forgiveness.

* yup, she did say she still loves him... but Scott got pissed off... well, who wouldn't? haha... 🙂 that's why the initial reaction of Emma (when Scott & Mags freed her) is weird... she confessed she still loves him at that time, but now she doesn't?

* and the reason: (1) she claims Scott left her in the hands of humans after stealing her PF, (2) she claims Scott betrayed her and left her for dead, (3) she claims Scott murdered Xavier...

* so her affair with Namor definitely goes down the drain, huh? i mean, really? we all know Scott took the responsibility, the brunt of wrongdoings of the P5, eventhough when he was carrying 1/5 of PF, he was the sanest and most level-headed... but to put him down like this is inappropriate... i like Emma to be with Scott but for her to have enough audacity to be angry at Scott knowing that she had a telepathic affair with Namor, i mean, that's poor scriptwriting...

The problem is that they're trying to paint it as Cyclops sympathising with the Phoenix, kind of a "sorry it got so bad, but its heart was in the right place" kind of thing.

Which is bullshit.

All New X-men #4

* the confrontation! the mouth is speechless, but the thoughts are overwhelming... who wouldn't, if you're the current Scott? and you see your dead wife alive again in her teens --- the time when you fell for her the first time?

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* battle ensues but O5 should've been thinking --- hey, that's Magneto! and he's retreating?

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* Magik teleports them back to their base, and Magneto informs Emma what had transpired... she seems not too thrilled but in the last panel, it leaves me wondering... Emma's insecurity over Jean seems to be affecting her a bit (the "Jean Grey. That's all i need" comment), and i would like Bendis to delve over this for a shot of another Scott-Emma romance (pretty-pretty please?)...

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* on the other side of the coin... it seems Jean is very much affected with the scenario, and "that look" to Scott spells a thousand profanities... eventhough O5 Scott technically doesn't have anything to do with the current Scott...

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* the best Scott-Emma dialogue we got since when? X-men Regenesis? i like this scene... with Emma carefully, delicately but somehow subtlely interrogating Scott's feelings when he saw Jean... heck, i want to see Emma jealous! and they really do jive with each other --- they think, plan and strategize well together...

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* and finally, the douchebag of the douchebags is going into cardiac arrest... funny how Kitty tells current Bobby to stop screaming everytime the O5 walk into the room...

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* so much for that --- less action, more emo... things are still going well for me though... keep it coming, Bendis... don't mess this up, boy... you've got a very interesting scenario here and you can redeem yourself (somehow) since you've turned Avengers into a circus...

Emma actually was the voice of reason in this issue...

She pulled Scott out of his confusion and his obsession of Jean's reemergence.

My only disappointment with this issue was with current Bobby. Who simply "freaked out" whenever his past self arrived. I expect more from Iceman, not just a shocked disbelief and retreat into the background. Although I'm pretty used to it by now throughout the years....Bobby has always been the one who lacks in initiative yet excels in powerset.

The only times he kicked ass was in random X-men combats and Operation: Zero Tolerance. Which was a kind of kick in the butt for him.
Oh well.
This issue pretty much predictably told it's tale.

Hank making the Blackbird untrackable was a bit of an odd surprise but otherwise no real surprises considering the real time-gap.

Which is something the comic should be having fun with. But isn't besides the first issue.

Older Scott was written horribly, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Older Scott was written horribly, tbh.

Agreed... I'm deeply unimpressed with present Scott.

He has no real drive or motive. Nothing the reader can back up.

So the Phoenix event resulted in mutants re-emerging.......

Good stuff so re-join the X-men's cause....but NO! Scott must be head honcho one way or another. He must lead the new Brotherhood of Mutants in the name of irony!!!

Lame.

Scott's better than this. I know he is. I expected more from Emma as well, her escape was a mess and her logical reasoning of the conflict between the modern and old team was way too late.

It's almost as if they had to write Magneto, Scott and Emma so badly to coincide with the plot.

And Jean was used as an excuse to cause a rift between the two teams due to her realisation of her telepathic gift.
What a coincidence.

Having him get all twisted over Jean was kind of disturbing too, tbh.