Ultimate Wizard Battle

Originally posted by Robtard
Non Sequitor. You claimed Volermort is the top wizard in his world. He's not. Dumbledore was. Accept that you were wrong.

LoL. Ever changing set of quanchi-rules as noted.

Watch the films. LoL, back to his "Grey" feats. You lost here; everyone knows it. Just move on, man.

Voldemort was at the top of the food chain in his movies. You misinterpreted what I said. Gandalf wasn't. He still got wtf owned by a guy Aragorn wrecked on screen.

Aragorn still owned a guy who shit all over Gandalf the White. You claimed he was divine. He was divine as the gray too, dwarf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You remember everything that has happened to me and bring it up all the time. You're obsessed like a woman. Key word is ALONE. I clarified my statement on the same page. You're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Flying on a broom is flying. But besides that let's just test this little theory of yours and look up some Harry Potter related material.First site I went to had this about the films.
Death Eaters are shown physically collapsing into thick black plumes of smoke, shooting off into the sky, and being able to go wherever they want to, while doing this. THIS IS KEY YOU IDIOT.Even that many people think this is apparition, it is not,(HAHA YOU'RE AN IDIOT) it is just an ability that was given to the Death Eaters in the movie series. Voldemort, for example, can fly this way, and also really apparating in the standard way. That shows that flying (black smoke) and apparating are different things in the movies.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I asked for abilities but you're too cowardly to answer because it proves my point. You're also confusing skill level with overall ability. The top mages from Harry Potter shit all over the top mages from LOTR because their abilities are far greater, you idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112

It's just a piece of wood it's different say if Harry is taking someone on with the elder wand. He can't just overpower the wand or break it in that manner because someone else is wielding it. MY entiore point was a mage using the wand as a conduit. Voldemort wielding any wand shits in Gandalf's homosexual mouth.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Dumbledore couldn't do so to Voldemort in combat. The only reason Harry did so was due to their connection. That doesn't exist here, idiot. Gandalf had his staff broken due to the Witch King pwning his ass. Why you ask. Because he's clearly more powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You double posted probably to bolster your post count. You're a sickening individual.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Voldemort wins and other posters are chiming in siding with little old me. This is a movies forum bookworm. The books don't mean dick here. The movies vastly differ in part I am told from the books. You lose. I rule.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I;m going to eat a quanwaffle right now. Meal of champions.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect. Albus > Voldermort in Potterland.

Incorrect: Albus himself said that Voldemort knew more and was more talented when it came to wizarding.

The reason Voldemort feared Albus was due to Albus' possessed the Elderwand which Voldemort thought was unbeatable. That didn't stop him from engaging Albus in a duel, however. 😄

You should admit fault to quanchi: it is the only respectful thing to do. It would also show that you are not so prideful as to admit you were wrong: something lacking in these parts.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Incorrect: Albus himself said that Voldemort knew more and was more talented when it came to wizarding.

When does he say this?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The reason Voldemort feared Albus was due to Albus' possessed the Elderwand which Voldemort thought was unbeatable. That didn't stop him from engaging Albus in a duel, however. 😄

Voldy didn't even know Dumbledore had the Elder Wand until Book 7. The reason Voldy did not want to engage Dumbledore was because Dumbledore was mightier than him. Yes, this may have been due to the Elder Wand, but Volemort certainly did not know that at the time.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Incorrect: Albus himself said that Voldemort knew more and was more talented when it came to wizarding.

The reason Voldemort feared Albus was due to Albus' possessed the Elderwand which Voldemort thought was unbeatable. That didn't stop him from engaging Albus in a duel, however. 😄

Voldemort didn't even know the Elder Wand existed before Ollivander's revelation in Deathly Hallows. And that was months after Dumbledore's death.

Originally posted by ares834
When does he say this?

Voldy didn't even know Dumbledore had the Elder Wand until Book 7.

Stick to the movies, babe.

Originally posted by ares834
The reason Voldy did not want to engage Dumbledore was because Dumbledore was mightier than him.

Prove it. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
Yes, this may have been due to the Elder Wand, but Volemort certainly did not know that at the time.

Stick to the movies.

Also, I do not remember anywhere in the books where it talks about or shows Voldemort having a revelation about Dumbledore having the Elder Wand: cite your source and don't try to pull a fast one because my wife has all the books.

Dumbledore was left untouched because, for most of the time, he (Dumbledore) was untouchable in his fortress called "Hogwarts" in addition to Dumbledore being the possessor of the Elder Wand in addition to being surrounded by top-class wizards in addition to Voldemort being in an a super weakened form. When he was resurrected, the only thing that changed about was he no longer had a weakened form.

And if Snape had no killed Dumbledore, Dumbledore would have died, anyway, due to Voldemort's trap.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, I do not remember anywhere in the books where it talks about or shows Voldemort having a revelation about Dumbledore having the Elder Wand: cite your source and don't try to pull a fast one because my wife has all the books.

Edit: He went to Gregorovitch in the movie as well, which again proves that he was initially unaware who the wand's true current owner was.

Voldemort will be the champion. HP Wizards pwn all.

(so do quanwaffles droolio)

Also, I'm pretty sure Voldemort bolted from the Dumbledore match in OOTP because the Aurors were coming. He and Dumbledore seemed pretty evenly matched.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Stick to the movies, babe.

Ok... He didn't know Dumbledore had the wand until the 7th movie...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Prove it. 🙂

Why else would he fear dueling him? Regardless, in their duel Voldemort was outmatched. Admittedly, I'm talking about the books here. In the movies they were more or less evenly matched.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, I do not remember anywhere in the books where it talks about or shows Voldemort having a revelation about Dumbledore having the Elder Wand: cite your source and don't try to pull a fast one because my wife has all the books.

Really? Vodlemort was hunting for the Elder Wand throughout the book and movie. Had he known Dumbeldore had it he would not had to go talk to Olivander, Grindelwald, etc...

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to show where Dumbledore said Voldemort is more talented than himself.

Originally posted by ares834
Ok... He didn't know Dumbledore had the wand until the 7th movie...

No where is that stated or implied in the movies.

Originally posted by ares834
Why else would he fear dueling him?

Because...he....had....the....elderwand.

Originally posted by ares834
Regardless, in their duel Voldemort was outmatched. Admittedly, I'm talking about the books here. In the movies they were more or less evenly matched.

I don't remember Voldemort being outmatched in the books or the movies. He left, in both cases, because the Aurors were coming to rape. 😐

Originally posted by ares834
Really? Vodlemort was hunting for the Elder Wand throughout the book and movie. Had he known Dumbeldore had it he would not had to go talk to Olivander, Grindelwald, etc...

So let me get this straight: Voldemort, who is the most knowledgeable of all Wizards, did not know about the Elder Wand, at all, until book 6 or 7? Makes perfect sense.

I will say that the extent of what the Elderwand was capable of is not known until Voldy tortures it out of him, but to say Voldemort did not know of the wand is a bit stupid.

Originally posted by ares834
Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to show where Dumbledore said Voldemort is more talented than himself.

Nope. Not doing it. You could have found the answer, yourself, by now.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He connected the dots like Harry did. Otherwise why would he go to Gregorovitch first?

Edit: He went to Gregorovitch in the movie as well, which again proves that he was initially unaware who the wand's true current owner was.

Why could he not have been going to him to get information on the wand? What does it have to be "who possessed the wand?"

By your logic, he should have gone to the ministry of magic, who was imprisoning him, to find out where the wand went because it would have been taken away from him. He didn't go there because he probably already knew who had the wand: he wanted other information.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Why could he not have been going to him to get information on the wand? What does it have to be "who possessed the wand?"

By your logic, he should have gone to the ministry of magic, who was imprisoning him, to find out where the wand went because it would have been taken away from him. He didn't go there because he probably already knew who had the wand: he wanted other information.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No where is that stated or implied in the movies.

Lol. Wtf?

"Tell me Grindelwald. Tell me where it is. Tell me who posses it"

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't remember Voldemort being outmatched in the books or the movies. He left, in both cases, because the Aurors were coming to rape. 😐

In the books Dumbledore is the only one who manages to actually get a hit in forcing Voldemort to possess Harry.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So let me get this straight: Voldemort, who is the most knowledgeable of all Wizards, did not know about the Elder Wand, at all, until book 6 or 7? Makes perfect sense.

Strawman. Not once did I say Voldemort did not know of the Elder Wand. I have said he did not know who had it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nope. Not doing it. You could have found the answer, yourself, by now.

😂

It's your argument. I'm not going to waste time searching through 7 book or 8 movies for a quote I don't think even exists....

Originally posted by ares834
Lol. Wtf?

"Tell me Grindelwald. Tell me where it is."

Originally posted by ares834
It's your argument. I'm not going to waste time searching through 7 book or 8 movies for a quote I don't think even exists....

Here, found the quote.

"My dear Professor, surely a sensible person like yourself can call him by his name? All this 'You-Know-Who' nonsense - for eleven years I have been trying to persuade people to call him by his proper name: Voldemort." Professor McGonagall flinched, but Dumbledore, who was unsticking two lemon drops, seemed not to notice. "It all gets so confusing if we keep saying 'You-Know-Who.' I have never seen any reason to be frightened of saying Voldemort's name."

"I know you haven't," said Professor McGonagall, sounding half exasperated, half admiring. "But you're different. Everyone knows you're the only one You-Know- oh, all right, Voldemort, was frightened of."

"You flatter me," said Dumbledore calmly. "Voldemort had powers I will never have."

"Only because you're too - well - noble to use them."

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
In Philosopher's Stone Dumbledore told McGonagall that Voldemort performed magic that he couldn't even conceive of in his wildest dreams when McGonagall pointed out how he was the only guy whom Voldy ever feared. During the opeining of the book, before Hagrid came up to deliver baby Potter. I don't recall if a similar dialogue took place between the 2 in the movie as well.

Yeah, I remember that. But from what I recall, Dumbledore claims that Voldemort can perform magic he can't but McGonagall responds saying it's only because he is to noble to use such magic.

I can't find my copy so I can't check.

The only other quotes DDM could be talking about that I can recall are Dumbledore saying Voldemort pushed the boundaries of magic farther than ever before or him saying that even his most powerful wards won't be able to stop Voldemort at full power.

Edit: Ah there we go. Thanks.

Originally posted by ares834
even his most powerful wards won't be able to stop Voldemort at full power.

Anyways, Dumbledore once mentioned that Voldemort's knowledge of magic exceeded that of any wizard alive. In the books, it was mentioned in Order of Phoenix.

As far as movies go, I think it was Half-Blood Prince. I'll have to check again to be sure.

Ah, here it is.

"I knew that Voldemort’s knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex and powerful protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever returned to full power."

Originally posted by ares834
Lol. Wtf?

"Tell me Grindelwald. Tell me where it is. Tell me who posses it"

I was strongly hoping you would bring that scene up because it gives me a chance to show you that you've been wrong this whole time (it was the scene, in mind, that I had that occurs in both the movies and the books that makes me think what I do about Voldy):

"I knew you'd come one day. But surely you must know I no longer have what you seek."

Implies quite a lot.

Implies:

1. He knew Voldemort would want the wand.
2. He knew that Voledmort knew he did not have the wand.

For me, that scene implies that Voldemort was just confirming what he already knew and he was angry with the answer: just observe what happens after he was told. He gets a nasty look on his face and quickly blasts out of the room. He mad. He real mad. In the book, it speaks more directly to Voldemort's frustration with Grindelwald's answer. Now why would he be mad about the answer?

🙂

Originally posted by ares834
In the books Dumbledore is the only one who manages to actually get a hit in forcing Voldemort to possess Harry.

Correct me if I am wrong (I have much love for you, so don't take this the wrong way), but it appears you do not remember the fight in the books, very well. Had it not been Fawkes, Dumbledore would have died: Fawkes jumped in the way of Voldemort's killing curse towards the end of their duel to save Dumbledore.

I am of the opinion that Voldemort saw no need to have the Elderwand because he dueled against it, already, and almost won. He was not foolish enough, imo, to buy into the "unbeatable" idea about the wand. But he knew it was powerful and knew it was enough to finally defeat Harry's wand: he just needed a powerful wand other than his own to beat Harry.

Originally posted by ares834
Strawman. Not once did I say Voldemort did not know of the Elder Wand. I have said he did not know who had it.

Strawman: not once did I say you claimed that Voldemort did not know about the Elderwand. I have said that Voldemort most likely knew Dumbledore had it and knew of the Elderwand but did not have all the information regarding the Elderwand (ergo, the events that we exlore in book/movie 7). You can pick and choose what applies to you.

Originally posted by ares834
😂

It's your argument. I'm not going to waste time searching through 7 book or 8 movies for a quote I don't think even exists....

That's not how it works. 🙂 I will not entertain troll questions like yours. If you have a burning desire to know if I'm right or not, look it up yourself. Like I said, you could have found your answer already. It is quite common knowledge for HP fans.

I do not need to prove a well-established fact that I already know. You can ignore it or not: your choice.

Unlike others, here, I do not have a burning desire to triumph over others in an immature display of penis power. ZOMG! I proved you wrong! Look it up, don't be lazy. 😄

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Here, found the quote.

That is only part 1 of 2 things I am referring to.

There is another, much more potent quote, that seals the deal...

Nay, 2 others.