Ultimate Wizard Battle

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wands are different. If it's just a piece of wood it can't produce fire out of it. A wand has magical properties yet you think its just a piece of wood.

Gandalf has attacked other mages but not with the tactics you're rolling with. Gandalf never attacked an enemy in that fashion either. He did so to friends so out of character for him to use one feat against Voldemort anyway despite the fact it wouldn't work anyways.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, back to the strawman arguments cos you can't debate against me. You're resorting to this tactic sooner and sooner.

Ah, the good ole "can only use specific attacks against the specific targets he's shown!" gimp. Clever, but that's not going to fly. No different than saying Gandalf couldn't cut down Voldermort with his sword because Gandalf's never seen cutting an HP wizard with it. Gimping clown.

Originally posted by Estacado
I see quan getting the hate on this forum as well....mmm

Originally posted by omgchos
It is just a piece of wood. It acts as a conduit for a wizards power. If ron weasleys thick head could break a wand then gandalf could certainly light one on fire at will as he is seen doing to aragorns sword.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, "Gandalf's magic can only affect non mages!!!!!1!" Gimping fool. Pathetic tactics.

I'd say this: "Gandalf's magic can work on anything that does not have anti-fire protection spells/enchantments."

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's why I said when the mage is wielding it. Harry could break the elder wand but that doesn't mean another mage can destroy it that easily while against him in battle.

I think this is a good point. My theory on that was: ONLY Harry could have broken the elderwand. No other person would have been able to do so unless the otherworldly magic used to create was replicated in an "anti-wand" fashion.

For instance, Mad-Eye Moody's eye could see through the invisibility cloak. Obviously, that eye's powers were enough so that Moody could see through it. So something else would have to be created. This is my theory on how Albus defeated that guy who's name starts with a G that had the wand before Albus...Albus just knew what kind of anti-magic to use.

Same goes for Horcruxes: those shits are pretty much invincible but there are certain counterspells strong enough to destroy them. This is Rowlings' general method in the series: for every unstoppable magic, their is a counter-magic that can stop it. She created a nice balanced universe, me thinks. She needs more credit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The guy had enough avada kedavra's throughout his appearances in the movies. He isn't going to do it every single time. I mean how many times is enough for you to consider it an actual tactic ? If someone is unarmed it's still a fight just not a fair one.

He uses it against his opponents. These are his opponents. You are trying to disregard the other instances because it cripples your argument. He doesn't even need to start out by tossing them around. Against Dumbledore he was his most impressive it's just Dumbledore was his closest thing to an equal while possessing the elder wand. Voldemort still knocked him on his ass while being in control of the fight.

Voldemort would be all over these other wizards from the get.

I never claimed that it was the case, you asked how Morgana was supposed to avoid the Killing curse, I provided what I think would be a fair response, her ability to pull herself apart, but then I came to think of the way Voldemort duels, and while the killing curse is used, I wouldn't say it's Voldemorts opening move. If it was indeed his opening move, I would think that it would have been used against Dumbledore. But to each his own. As I said Quanchi we apparently have very different ideas of what a fight is, so no reason to pursue that. Which is also why I changed it to a magical duel, that is a more solid term.

No I'm not, I'm drawing into question what I believed was your original stance that Voldemort will always engage his opponents with the killing curse as his first move, a stance that I based on the movies does not agree with, as mentioned. It's as simple as that. So read again, I didn't say that Voldemort doesn't utilize the killing curse, I said that he doesn't imo open every magical duel with it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd say this: "Gandalf's magic can work on anything that does not have anti-fire protection spells/enchantments."

I think this is a good point. My theory on that was: ONLY Harry could have broken the elderwand. No other person would have been able to do so unless the otherworldly magic used to create was replicated in an "anti-wand" fashion.

For instance, Mad-Eye Moody's eye could see through the invisibility cloak. Obviously, that eye's powers were enough so that Moody could see through it. So something else would have to be created. This is my theory on how Albus defeated that guy who's name starts with a G that had the wand before Albus...Albus just knew what kind of anti-magic to use.

Same goes for Horcruxes: those shits are pretty much invincible but there are certain counterspells strong enough to destroy them. This is Rowlings' general method in the series: for every unstoppable magic, their is a counter-magic that can stop it. She created a nice balanced universe, me thinks. She needs more credit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's why I said when the mage is wielding it. Harry could break the elder wand but that doesn't mean another mage can destroy it that easily while against him in battle.

Originally posted by omgchos
Hermione broke harrys wand, by accident. You cant make the inference that something is unbreakable or immune to damage for no apperent reason. Its never stated that they are in fact unbreakable as we have numerous examples. What makes you think that its true?

In deathly hallows 2 we see whatever the hell that old toots' name was who chased Snape out of the school. I can't recall it now and am too lazy to google her. She lits all the candles easily but you don't see her setting her enemies wands ablaze because that isn't how it works.

Acting as if a sword wielding by a man is the same as a wand wielded by a mage is comparing apples and oranges.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I never claimed that it was the case, you asked how Morgana was supposed to avoid the Killing curse, I provided what I think would be a fair response, her ability to pull herself apart, but then I came to think of the way Voldemort duels, and while the killing curse is used, I wouldn't say it's Voldemorts opening move. If it was indeed his opening move, I would think that it would have been used against Dumbledore. But to each his own. As I said Quanchi we apparently have very different ideas of what a fight is, so no reason to pursue that. Which is also why I changed it to a magical duel, that is a more solid term.

No I'm not, I'm drawing into question what I believed was your original stance that Voldemort will always engage his opponents with the killing curse as his first move, a stance that I based on the movies does not agree with, as mentioned. It's as simple as that. So read again, I didn't say that Voldemort doesn't utilize the killing curse, I said that he doesn't imo open every magical duel with it.

I never said he did so every time either only that he's done it more than enough times to see he really favors the killing curse above all else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We argue what's in character but either way you want it it doesn't get the job done. Voldemort plays the long ranged game and the only way you believe he can affect Voldy's staff is if he's more powerful like he did to Saruman. Not the case.

In character you say? Then Voldermort would want to be up close to the people he's killing, he enjoys it, you biased gimping clown.

Stop with the utter nonsense. "Wands can't be broken when being wielded in battle!". We see teens break wands, they're not made of adamantium, you nit.

quanchi
We argue what's in character but either way you want it it doesn't get the job done. Voldemort plays the long ranged game and the only way you believe he can affect Voldy's staff is if he's more powerful like he did to Saruman. Not the case.

Pretty sure the only reason Gandalf broke Saruman's staff is because he had the authority to do so, not power. They seemed fairly even in The Two Towers when it came to control over Theoden.

Originally posted by Robtard
In character you say? Then Voldermort would want to be up close to the people he's killing, he enjoys it, you biased gimping clown.

Stop with the utter nonsense. "Wands can't be broken when being wielded in battle!". We see teens break wands, they're not made of adamantium, you nit.

They can be broken but they can't be overpowered in the same manner in which you are describing.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Pretty sure the only reason Gandalf broke Saruman's staff is because he had the authority to do so, not power. They seemed fairly even in The Two Towers when it came to control over Theoden.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They can be broken but they can't be overpowered in the same manner in which you are describing.

All this during an aerial battle in which Voldemort ended up killing Mad-Eye Moody.

Originally posted by Robtard
In character you say? Then Voldermort would want to be up close to the people he's killing, he enjoys it, you biased gimping clown.

Stop with the utter nonsense. "Wands can't be broken when being wielded in battle!". We see teens break wands, they're not made of adamantium, you nit.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Voldemort's borrowed wand got smashed by Harry's wand when he was giving chase to Potter and co at the beginning of DH-1.

All this during an aerial battle in which Voldemort ended up killing Mad-Eye Moody.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to their connection. Wands aren't unbreakable but they won't be overpowered by simply another wizard's power in battle.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Voldemort's borrowed wand

I showed the exact example of what you have been claiming can't happen(i.e wands can't be destroyed/overpowered when wielded by a wizard in a duel). I doubt you can twist your way around this now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
old toots' name was who chased Snape out of the school. I can't recall it now and am too lazy to google her.

Your welcome.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I should have underlined and magnified this part :

The wand which got smashed wasn't Voldemort's own wand, it was Lucius Malfoy's borrowed wand which Ollivander had suggested Voldemort use against Harry precisely for overcoming the hurdle which their wands' connection was causing.

I showed the exact example of what you have been claiming can't happen(i.e wands can't be destroyed/overpowered when wielded by a wizard in a duel). I doubt you can twist your way around this now.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Professor McGonagall.

Your welcome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not gimping you jackass. If you want to argue on abilities then Voldemort dominates him even more so. Voldemort can apparate all over the place or move his wand to slash into Gandalf's flesh. Gandalf's one attack you claim he uses wouldn't even beat Voldemort. It would cloud his vision for a moment but then again Voldemort can apparate you boob of all boobs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they can be broken not magically overpowered by their opponents. I don't gimp at all you seem to think you become Gandalf for this thread, hillbilly. Not on my watch.
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Voldemort destroys Gandalf the guy who runs from small bands of orcs. LOL. D

LoL, you raged and went back to respond to my crushing post twice. Both times with fail and nonsense.

Concession accepted

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you raged and went back to respond to my crushing post twice. Both times with fail and nonsense.

Concession accepted

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was still only due to their connection. He was wrong in assuming it could overpower their connection. These wizards don't share a connection hence they won't break. Context. I doubt even you can ignore or wiggle your way out of this one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I doubt even you can ignore or wiggle your way out of this one.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I didn't want to know her name.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Your welcome.

His welcome? He owns a welcome?