Most plotholed film of 2012?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I strongly disagree with it. The author is clearly butthurt because people are pointing out pretty clear problems in movies he liked. So the dissonance he feels has to be resolved, somehow, so he wrote that article explaining how he gets over the dissonance.

You can have a virtually plothole-less movie...it can be done. Many have been made. In fact, I think it is difficult to write a plothole riddled movie like TDKR. It is pretty amazing that a movie like that is riddled with so many legit plotholes: they had to go out of their way to make some of the plotholes happen.

Just seems a bit late to me. People treat Dark Knight like it's a master-piece, and that had plot holes. I honestly don't get why DKR is treated like it's absurdly worse than everything else.

What were TDK's plotholes?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What were TDK's plotholes?

A few that come to mind:

How Joker's schoolbus wasn't magically noticed by the tons of other bus drivers nearby?
How Wayne's plane got to fly over (I think it was Hong Kong) without the chinese army blowing the shit out of it?
How the Joker, after tossing Rachel out of the window (and Batman goes after her) ends up what, peacefully leaving?

There were some more, but not remembering them right now.

Originally posted by Kazenji
For you maybe it might have.

I'll modify my statement. I enjoyed the film because of its sweet visuals. However, the actual storyline was stupid and a complete ripoff of other previous films. And that's why I wouldn't say it was better than TDKR, even though the film had clear plotholes.

Originally posted by -Pr-
A few that come to mind:

How Joker's schoolbus wasn't magically noticed by the tons of other bus drivers nearby?
How Wayne's plane got to fly over (I think it was Hong Kong) without the chinese army blowing the shit out of it?
How the Joker, after tossing Rachel out of the window (and Batman goes after her) ends up what, peacefully leaving?

There were some more, but not remembering them right now.

TDK had plotholes, but there aren't as many and as blatant as those in TDKR. In fact, I don't seem to recall that many more apart from the ones you listed above.

Originally posted by -Pr-
A few that come to mind:

How Joker's schoolbus wasn't magically noticed by the tons of other bus drivers nearby?

As you have described it, that is not a plothole. Joker was inside the building and the bus was not labeled "Jokers bus": it was a plain ol' legit schoolbus.

There were multiple schoolbuses at the hospital:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmkRi_tr9c&playnext=1&list=PLE6D6FBB8394169B6&feature=results_video

So why would anyone care about another schoolbus when there appears to be 3 or 4 other buses?

Originally posted by -Pr-
How Wayne's plane got to fly over (I think it was Hong Kong) without the chinese army blowing the shit out of it?

Hong Kong has a very large amount of autonomy from China. China has a insignificant military presence in Hong Kong, as well. Also, Wayne enterprises, at the time, was at the top of the world: getting permission from the Chinese government is as easy as paying them off. Lastly, simply logging a flight with Hong Kong International Airport is all the pilot of that plane had to do to not raise any suspicions (yeah, it's that simple). Contrast this with TDKR: that "leverage" of Wayne Enterprises was simply not there in TDKR which is why people wonder how the hell Bruce got home once he got out of the hole: no money and a ruined reputation (not going to pay someone off to get home).

Originally posted by -Pr-
How the Joker, after tossing Rachel out of the window (and Batman goes after her) ends up what, peacefully leaving?

How is this a plothole? He just got done terrorizing that group and presumably had some thugs with him. He is definitely free to leave at any time he wants to without any repercussions.

Originally posted by -Pr-
There were some more, but not remembering them right now.

I do not see any of those as plotholes.

There are plotholes, for sure...but the ones you mentioned are not it.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Man, you really like to exaggerate your point just to hide the lack of substance to your posts.

The title of this thread is: Most plotholed film in 2012.

Approximately 30 different people posted in this thread. 1/3 of them nominated TDKR as the most plotholed film for this year.

I can name them all.

Can you name the "millions of people around the world" who disagree with me?

Hell, I don't even see/hear a response from you regarding all the points brought up in the You tube clip.

dude please continue to make me laugh, I knew you'd say something like that.. you see the millions of people around the world ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS FILM A FINANCIAL SUCCESS The Dark Knight Rises made $$448,139,099 right here in the United States and $$632,902,188 overseas for a grand total of $1,081,041,287 that is what I mean when I say that millions of people disagree with you.. you do know that when a film makes that type of money , people see it multiple times. not just once and that is not even counting the money the film will make on dvd/blu ray.. once again only the people who didn't like the film that much or who simply want to hate are the ones whining about the plotholes.... btw it doesn't matter what the thread title is because Prometheus had just as many plotholes and yet that film has barely been mentioned..

also who cares what people say on a message board, studios don't and neither do directors.. who cares what some dumb arse youtube clip says, I already know that that person is some ignorant hater who is just simply jealous of how Nolan interpreted the character..

Originally posted by -Pr-
shrug

Even if it had the most plot-holes, that doesn't make it the worst movie.

shhhh, don't say that too loud lol..

Originally posted by ares834
Yep.

I strongly agree with this article.

http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2012/09/18/why-we-need-to-give-plot-holes-a-rest/

damn good fine ares834

Bruce, you're acting like a whiny little girl who has just pissed her panties.

Stop it.

Originally posted by -kV-
I'll modify my statement. I enjoyed the film because of its sweet visuals. However, the actual storyline was stupid and a complete ripoff of other previous films. And that's why I wouldn't say it was better than TDKR, even though the film had clear plotholes.

TDK had plotholes, but there aren't as many and as blatant as those in TDKR. In fact, I don't seem to recall that many more apart from the ones you listed above.

Originally posted by dadudemon
As you have described it, that is not a plothole. Joker was inside the building and the bus was not labeled "Jokers bus": it was a plain ol' legit schoolbus.

There were multiple schoolbuses at the hospital:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmkRi_tr9c&playnext=1&list=PLE6D6FBB8394169B6&feature=results_video

So why would anyone care about another schoolbus when there appears to be 3 or 4 other buses?

Hong Kong has a very large amount of autonomy from China. China has a insignificant military presence in Hong Kong, as well. Also, Wayne enterprises, at the time, was at the top of the world: getting permission from the Chinese government is as easy as paying them off. Lastly, simply logging a flight with Hong Kong International Airport is all the pilot of that plane had to do to not raise any suspicions (yeah, it's that simple). Contrast this with TDKR: that "leverage" of Wayne Enterprises was simply not there in TDKR which is why people wonder how the hell Bruce got home once he got out of the hole: no money and a ruined reputation (not going to pay someone off to get home).

How is this a plothole? He just got done terrorizing that group and presumably had some thugs with him. He is definitely free to leave at any time he wants to without any repercussions.

I do not see any of those as plotholes.

There are plotholes, for sure...but the ones you mentioned are not it.

Disagree on both counts, but that's me.

Originally posted by -kV-
I'll modify my statement. I enjoyed the film because of its sweet visuals. However, the actual storyline was stupid and a complete ripoff of other previous films. And that's why I wouldn't say it was better than TDKR, even though the film had clear plotholes.

I know about the movie was using stories from other films but i still enjoyed it for what it was.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Bruce, you're acting like a whiny little girl who has just pissed her panties.

Stop it.

lol at the whining part.. im just speaking truth

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lol at the whining part.. im just speaking truth

I don't think you're whining. At worst, you're just irritated with the hate of a legitimately good film. It's all gravy, baby. 😄

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't think you're whining. At worst, you're just irritated with the hate of a legitimately good film. It's all gravy, baby. 😄

damn straight

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lol at the whining part.. im just speaking truth

Originally posted by Mindset
But you have pissed your panties?

lol lmao.. don't do that either

Originally posted by Mindset
But you have pissed your panties?

Some girls are into that, I hear.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't think you're whining. At worst, you're just irritated with the hate of a legitimately good film. It's all gravy, baby. 😄

Two-Face much?

You're actually the first person on this thread that nominated TDKR.

Neither of those statements are necessarily contradictory.

I think TDKR had some very noticeable plotholes.

I still think it is a good movie.

That's because your taste sucks

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly didn't enjoy the Prestige that much. Probably because I found it to be predictable.

And I enjoyed DKR more than DK, but that was due to the villains more than anything else tbh.

Bane would have been a great villain if

A) He wasnt talias little henchmen, and therefore had no motivation of his own.

B) Didnt have a voice akin to a british troll with autotune.

C) And finally wasnt killed so anticlimactically.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep.

I strongly agree with this article.

http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2012/09/18/why-we-need-to-give-plot-holes-a-rest/

A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

In other words this guy is just another TDKR fan whining about what he percieves as hate towards his moive. When in fact it did have some major plotholes.

I actually really liked Bane, tbh.