Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...kids and animals (yes, I went there) are seen as more innocent and pure than 40 year old adults. Also, the kids have not gotten to live a life, yet. Most 40 year olds have experienced life with an adult mind. I must say that if given the choice between a complete 8 year old stranger and my own life, I'd logical chose the kid's life: I've lived quite a long time the kid should have a chance to at least live as long as I have. But I'm placing value on experience and knowledge that comes from that which is technically an extension of the ontological argument for the existence of God: to exist is better than not to exist. I'm just adding a time-frame in there: to exist longer is better than not to exist.

Edit - I think most people are thinking the same thing, but just not in those exact words, when they are saying that dead kids are worse than dead adults.

I don't place value on life based on age, gender, race, intelligence, etc. It's terrible... PERIOD, when people are killed, and to me it comes off as shallow to say it's more tragic when a younger person dies. I especially think it's nonsense because if it were your mother or some random little kid who was about to be gunned down, i seriously doubt you'd want the kid to be spared.

Human life is human life, age shouldn't even be a factor in how you feel about it when it's taken away.

I'm gonna pretend you didn't equate human and animal life.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
It could also very well be that this guy is demon-possessed to the toenails and he did it because Satan (or some other demon) posing as God was speaking to him and telling him to. Who the heck knows right now?

It could also be that God sent him on an actual divine mission. Mysterious ways.

Originally posted by marwash22
yeah, and it doesn't make sense to me.

I don't place value on life based on age, gender, race, intelligence, etc. It's terrible... PERIOD, when people are killed, and to me it comes off as shallow to say it's more tragic when a younger person dies. I especially think it's nonsense because if it were your mother or some random little kid who was about to be gunned down, i seriously doubt you'd want the kid to be spared.

Human life is human life, age shouldn't even be a factor in how you feel about it when it's taken away.

I'm gonna pretend you didn't equate human and animal life.

But if I were in a situation where a 40 year old mother and a 5 year old boy (not her son) were in danger of immediate death and I could only save one, I'd go for the child each and every time. Kid's just started out his life and children are the future, as cliche' as that sounds. This is in no means is lessening that hypothetical woman's life though.

Originally posted by marwash22
I especially think it's nonsense because if it were your mother or some random little kid who was about to be gunned down, i seriously doubt you'd want the kid to be spared.

That's because people place greater value on the life of their close family members than on people who are not related. It's internally consistent.

Most mothers (most parents, actually) would prefer that you save their children rather than them, given a choice. I also find the death of a 91 year old to be less tragic than the death of a newborn, tbh, when discussing natural causes.

I find the murder of anyone tragic regardless of age, tho. I can't really say why.

Originally posted by Robtard
Adding the "personal factor" is not really fair to objectivity.

Originally posted by Robtard
But if I were in a situation where a 40 year old mother and a 5 year old boy (not her son) were in danger of immediate death and I could only save one, I'd go for the child each and every time. Kid's just started out his life and children are the future, as cliche' as that sounds. This is in no means is lessening that hypothetical woman's life though.

If you were in that situation where you had to choose and you chose the younger kid, that's fine because it's logical to think the kid hasn't lived his/her life and the older person has... but if you don't feel just as bad about the older person dying as you would have if the younger person died, i think there is something wrong with you.

Originally posted by marwash22
it's fair because age is the issue being discussed. If you think a younger person dying is more tragic, then your relation to the older person shouldn't matter.

i didn't intend this to be about saving or choosing which one lives... it's about how you feel about them dying. Your stance is that you feel worse when a younger person dies... THAT is what I'm saying doesn't make sense.

Because you're adding in the "family" factor; that adds another angle. eg Would you feel just as angry/sad if someone killed your mother or some unknown woman that was your mother's age, size, ethnicity etc, or feel equally the same?

Yes, and the younger that person is, the worse I feel. ie I'd feel bad if I heard a 90 year old man was run over and killed by a drunk driver, but I'd feel even worse if a 9 year old boy was run over and killed by a drunk driver. Your almost stone-wall approach doesn't make sense to me.

The USA should make it mandatory for All us citizens 18 and over to possess a firearm at all times and places, shit like this would get shut down quick

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
The USA should make it mandatory for All us citizens 18 and over to possess a firearm at all times and places, shit like this would get shut down quick

LoL, took 4 pages, but lol.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It could also be that God sent him on an actual divine mission. Mysterious ways.

Anyone seen this insane ****?

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/12/fischerschool.html

Originally posted by GCG
Anyone seen this insane ****?

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/12/fischerschool.html

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Originally posted by Mindset
Shut up.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
whats wrong with you and my posts? 😬

Originally posted by Mindset
Nothing is wrong with me, everything is wrong with your post.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because you're adding in the "family" factor; that adds another angle. eg Would you feel just as angry/sad if someone killed your mother or some unknown woman that was your mother's age, size, ethnicity etc, or feel equally the same?

Yes, and the younger that person is, the worse I feel. ie I'd feel bad if I heard a 90 year old man was run over and killed by a drunk driver, but I'd feel even worse if a 9 year old boy was run over and killed by a drunk driver. Your almost stone-wall approach doesn't make sense to me.

you disgust me. sneer

Originally posted by Robtard
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They took that link down, but this is another link.

http://www.inquisitr.com/438879/afas-brian-fischer-says-ct-school-shooting-happened-because-schools-dont-allow-prayer-video/

Originally posted by GCG
They took that link down, but this is another link.

http://www.inquisitr.com/438879/afas-brian-fischer-says-ct-school-shooting-happened-because-schools-dont-allow-prayer-video/

And another assclown using a tragedy to promote their own agenda. Deplorable.

Originally posted by marwash22
okay, so basically, i value all human life equally, and you don't.

you disgust me. sneer

So you're saying all death affects you the same; your father dying is no more painful than some dude in Florida that you've never met.

That's like some seriously deep spiritual shit, dude.

This sort of thing never happens in schools in the ghetto, where all the children are already carrying guns. 😖hifty: