Master of Magnetism vs Superman

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, he has the ability to do even better than THAT, as evidenced in his unlikely Avengers versus X-Men showdown against Iron Man in the most recent Phoenix storyline:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022738
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great scans ty

Oliver, you do know Magneto starts of with his shields up, right?

right, I forgot Magneto's shields were an insta-win on KMC

Originally posted by Oliver North
right, I forgot Magneto's shields were an insta-win on KMC

Not instant win...it just gives him the time he needs to defend and attack.

against a forum powered Superman? fine, I'm satisfied being the only one who feels this way

Originally posted by 753
chuck was the one to mindrape him when he atemtoped to rip the metal from logan's bones, but the point remains: when did the swithc take place? because magnus was inhibting chuck's powers via hemoglobine manipulation, chuck would have to be freed first to pull the mindrape off. in that case dazzler's presence would have to be cooncealed by jean. moreover, the attack was witnessed by all and dazzler only disappears after magneto seemingly desintegrates her, this would be the perfect momento to conceal her for the switch. as such, I think she did attack him and he did deflect the blast by photon manipulation.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Tbh, I actually think it will be easier (relatively speaking of course) for Magneto to harm Superman than vice versa. I don't think said fight would be easy for either opponent, though.

Given that magneto doesn't fights with his shield on most of the time, I've a hard time seeing him remain conscious for long.

Originally posted by Oliver North
against a forum powered Superman? fine, I'm satisfied being the only one who feels this way

What is a forum powered Magneto and Superman? I thought we still go by what happens on panel? We don't make up a way a character battles in a forum fight. Am I wrong? What is it that you see Superman doing in this fight?

Originally posted by Oliver North

I forgot Magneto's shields were an insta-win on KMC

It's worth pointing out, again, those shields ARE great defense for Magneto, even against multiple threats, even if he himself, a moment before his shields were put up, had been weakened by an assault ...

(Uncanny X-Men 150)

Originally posted by Oliver North
against a forum powered Superman? fine, I'm satisfied being the only one who feels this way

You're not. This is like looking at an alternate universe KMC. Where's the planet-benching, pico-second reaction, sh*tstomp-anyone-this-side-of-Surfer Superman that I've been debating against for years? I know DCnU stripped a few high-end feats, but geez.

Originally posted by carver9
What is a forum powered Magneto and Superman? I thought we still go by what happens on panel? We don't make up a way a character battles in a forum fight. Am I wrong? What is it that you see Superman doing in this fight?

In this case specifically, it would be that Superman would use his speed to wear down Magneto's shields before Magneto could pull off what would be one of his better energy manipulation feats, and even then, I don't think it is a one-shot kill if Magneto could somehow effect Superman's energy.

I mean, even Magneto admitted he couldn't take hits from Mjolnir indefinitely, and with his speed, Superman should be hitting him as hard at least several times a second.

Think of it this way. Holocaust can take shots from Thor, and in fact, it took several hits from Mjolnir and Iron Man to put him down. Holocaust is fast enough to tag Quicksilver. Holocaust can absorb the energy from people, like Superman. Do you think Holocaust is going to take 1/10 from Superman?

Originally posted by Digi
You're not. This is like looking at an alternate universe KMC. Where's the planet-benching, pico-second reaction, sh*tstomp-anyone-this-side-of-Surfer Superman that I've been debating against for years? I know DCnU stripped a few high-end feats, but geez.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Amazing pic of Magneto and Galactus

I remember a few years back I made a poll thread on 3 scenarios and asked if a full powered fully enraged magneto can take out Galactus even if it cost him his own life

1) Magneto wins but barely survives
2) Magneto dies and takes Galactus with him
3) Magneto dies for nothing , Galactus too powerful

I got hit with the spite thread and locked

Originally posted by Digi
You're not. This is like looking at an alternate universe KMC. Where's the planet-benching, pico-second reaction, sh*tstomp-anyone-this-side-of-Surfer Superman that I've been debating against for years? I know DCnU stripped a few high-end feats, but geez.

I just posted the Superman vs Starhawk thread and had to deal with Superman the energy manipulator and 1000s of times faster than light speedster...

Magneto brings out the weird in people I guess.

Originally posted by Digi
You're not. This is like looking at an alternate universe KMC. Where's the planet-benching, pico-second reaction, sh*tstomp-anyone-this-side-of-Surfer Superman that I've been debating against for years? I know DCnU stripped a few high-end feats, but geez.

Gotcha

Originally posted by Oliver North

even Magneto admitted he couldn't take hits from Mjolnir indefinitely, and with his speed, Superman should be hitting him as hard at least several times a second.

Magneto is "admitting" to that in Dark Saint's 1960s showing.

The thread poster specifically stated this is Magneto in his PRIME, not as he appears in his earliest years and powers weakest.

By the 1980s, let alone subsequent years, Magneto's shields were powerful enough to endure Thor's hammer strikes so effectively that he scoffed at Thor and told Thor and She-Hulk that mere physical force could not breach them.

@Oliver...

I understand your intake on this but Magneto doesn't have to manipulate anything to win this, his power output is sufficient enough. Also, are you referring to the classic showing with Thor and Magneto? Magneto has gained a power increase since then. Do you know of a time Magneto shields has been breached.?

Originally posted by Digi
You're not. This is like looking at an alternate universe KMC. Where's the planet-benching, pico-second reaction, sh*tstomp-anyone-this-side-of-Surfer Superman that I've been debating against for years? I know DCnU stripped a few high-end feats, but geez.

Threatened by his incoming return as King with MoS superdur

Magneto is able to manipulate various forms of electromagnetic radiation.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319502
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319504

His shields block even volcanic heat, if memory serves.

(Uncanny Xmen #113. I do not have this issue, unfortunately. Seem to remember Magneto making his way to safety through a deluge of lava after his base is destroyed. Would very much appreciate if anyone could post those scenes.)

Magneto's shields certainly block out lasers and concussive beams.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319524

Magneto's shields can lightly endure the mightiest strikes of THOR in prime incarnations, with no discernible ill effects, and apparently little disturbance of Magneto's concentration.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14137001

Magneto can perform complex mental tasks in the midst of battle even when he IS stressed, remarkable and precise ones

-- counting of neodymium magnets
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026860

-- unscrewing of chair bolts in psionic battle with Xavier
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319443
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319457

Magneto has awareness of changes and flow in the galaxy that includes detection of other planets (and their sudden loss).
Magneto can augment his power by drawing on the magnetic fields not only of Earth, but of other planets as well.
(Hinted that he can do this with the Sun in that Iron Man battle, but I won't directly claim that.)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022738
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022797
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022745
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022748
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Magneto can manipulate ship metal.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Partially tongue-in-cheek, Pr.

You wrote this as if Superman's power source is something other than yellow sunlight, which, in some incarnations, IS debate-able.

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I'm still left quite puzzled by your Dr. Polaris. Is it a man? A woman?
A robot? Why does there seem to be a disembodied head the heroes refer to when going up against the Doc in one of those scans?

It's decidedly DC though; the only comics Polaris I was aware of in any sense before this thread was Lorna Dane of the X-Men. Relatively few people know of her; a fact not helped by her being under-utilized for the sake of larger drama in story-lines, a case-in-point illustrated strikingly by at least one Marvel writer:

I was speaking more about the sun being such an abundant power source, rather than saying that it was the power source at all.

Link version of above.

Magneto is able to manipulate various forms of electromagnetic radiation.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319502
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319504

Magneto's shields block even volcanic heat, if memory serves.

(Uncanny Xmen #113. I do not have this issue, unfortunately. Seem to remember Magneto making his way to safety through a deluge of lava after his base is destroyed. Would very much appreciate if anyone could post those scenes.)

Magneto's shields certainly block out lasers and concussive beams.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319524

Magneto's shields can lightly endure the mightiest strikes of THOR in prime incarnations, with no discernible ill effects, and apparently little disturbance of Magneto's concentration.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14137001

Magneto can perform complex mental tasks in the midst of battle even when he IS stressed, remarkable and precise ones

-- counting of neodymium magnets
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026860

-- unscrewing of chair bolts in psionic battle with Xavier
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319443
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319457

Magneto has awareness of changes and flow in the galaxy that includes detection of other planets (and their sudden loss).
Magneto can augment his power by drawing on the magnetic fields not only of Earth, but of other planets as well.
(Hinted that he can do this with the Sun in that Iron Man battle, but I won't directly claim that.)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022738
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022797
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022745
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14022748
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319466
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14319475