It isn't a matter of whether the army of the dead are ghosts or not. They can ONLY cease to exist if they are released from their curse. Nothing else. So potter magic would have utterly no effect.
Shields disintegrate stone giants? Is this from an actual feat or is this you just making things up that they 'could' be used to do? Genuinely curious seeing as I'm no expert on Harry P although I've seen about half the films now and seen nothing that even comes close to anyone being powerful enough to stop a stone giant or anything close to what Saruman did with the storm on carhadaras. Let's face facts, even potterverses 3 supposedly most powerful spells are weak as piss.
Originally posted by jaden101They can be petrified. You're forcing Lotr lore to apply to all other universes in some kind of biased twisted logic.
It isn't a matter of whether the army of the dead are ghosts or not. They can ONLY cease to exist if they are released from their curse. Nothing else. So potter magic would have utterly no effect.Shields disintegrate stone giants? Is this from an actual feat or is this you just making things up that they 'could' be used to do? Genuinely curious seeing as I'm no expert on Harry P although I've seen about half the films now and seen nothing that even comes close to anyone being powerful enough to stop a stone giant or anything close to what Saruman did with the storm on carhadaras. Let's face facts, even potterverses 3 supposedly most powerful spells are weak as piss.
Disintegrate what touches it. If you have no idea why even argue. Typical Lotr fans don't really know but hey I love me some Lotr attitude.
The storm on the mountain was to prevent one pathway so they'd use another. It didn't kill anyone and Potter wizards could fly away or apparate. It's laughable.
You're not very bright are you. I'm giving the mountai thing not as a method of attack but as an example of sheer magical power. Nothing in Harry Potter comes close to it yet you're arguing that they are more powerful. They're simply not.
You'd also do well to check my opinions on Lord of the Rings which I have voiced many times on these forums. So accusing me of being a fan boy won't wash and is unbelievably ironic coming from you.
Originally posted by jaden101Shield disintegration. Far more impressive.
You're not very bright are you. I'm giving the mountai thing not as a method of attack but as an example of sheer magical power. Nothing in Harry Potter comes close to it yet you're arguing that they are more powerful. They're simply not.You'd also do well to check my opinions on Lord of the Rings which I have voiced many times on these forums. So accusing me of being a fan boy won't wash and is unbelievably ironic coming from you.
The stone giants were wrecking each other and easily. The shield was very impressive and took hundreds of attacks for a sustained period of time.
If the shoe fits wear it.
Originally posted by jaden101nothing has any effect in the Lotr verse. They can't petrify but guess who can. Lotr fans are so easy to argue against.
And what can be petrified? The army of the dead? You're talking big sweaty nut sacks again. It's stated on screen they were cursed never to rest until they had fulfilled their oath. Nothing but that has any effect on them. Nothing. Simple ah that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Shield disintegration. Far more impressive.The stone giants were wrecking each other and easily. The shield was very impressive and took hundreds of attacks for a sustained period of time.
If the shoe fits wear it.
They were wrecking each other easily? No. But then they're walking mountains. I don't recall anything from HP wrecking a mountain. Let alone a sentient walking mountain that fights back.
Originally posted by jaden101Yes, they were. They were slow and Potter wizards could whiz around wrecking them sooner or later. Cling to the stone giants. It amuses me. One immobilus stops their movement anyways. 😂
They were wrecking each other easily? No. But then they're walking mountains. I don't recall anything from HP wrecking a mountain. Let alone a sentient walking mountain that fights back.
Again, the LotR hype men are on crack. Sauramon's storm is supposed to be teh pwn? Please.
Let's take an easy scenario: idiot knocks bucket down hole, bringing on the attention of an entire horde of goblins and such. LotR fights for a while then retreats. Potterverse summons a wave of fiendfyre and wipes the entire hall and outer cavern of the forces in one pass.
The world of Potter outclasses the outsized armies of LotR time and time again. The numbers count for nothing when they have no means of defending themselves against such wizardry.
Team Potter without question.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Again, the LotR hype men are on crack. Sauramon's storm is supposed to be teh pwn? Please.Let's take an easy scenario: idiot knocks bucket down hole, bringing on the attention of an entire horde of goblins and such. LotR fights for a while then retreats. Potterverse summons a wave of fiendfyre and wipes the entire hall and outer cavern of the forces in one pass.
The world of Potter outclasses the outsized armies of LotR time and time again. The numbers count for nothing when they have no means of defending themselves against such wizardry.
Team Potter without question.
Let's go more based on what happens in the actual film shall we? The HP kids get chased into the room where the fellowship made their stand. They try and use fiendfyre but can't control it and can't escape and burn themselves to death while the goblins all climb back into the cracks they came from. The balrog then comes along and has a wee laugh to himself at the fire. What with him being made of magical fire and that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they were. They were slow and Potter wizards could whiz around wrecking them sooner or later. Cling to the stone giants. It amuses me. One immobilus stops their movement anyways. 😂
didn't even have to bring them up. You potter wizards couldn't do anything to the army of the dead.
Originally posted by jaden101
Let's go more based on what happens in the actual film shall we? The HP kids get chased into the room where the fellowship made their stand. They try and use fiendfyre but can't control it and can't escape and burn themselves to death while the goblins all climb back into the cracks they came from. The balrog then comes along and has a wee laugh to himself at the fire. What with him being made of magical fire and that.
Actually, I was assuming that Snape, Dumble, Volt, etc would be the one unleashing it. Not too crazy considering that the LotR crew had Gandolf in tow, no? You were just touting his amazing skills, so I think it's only fair that the Potterkind have one of their most powerful to cast as well, along with whatever other magic users fit the bill.
Nice try, though. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they were. They were slow and Potter wizards could whiz around wrecking them sooner or later. Cling to the stone giants. It amuses me. One immobilus stops their movement anyways. 😂
Many of the Harry Potter spells are much less effective against Giants or dragons, I don't see why we should assume they'd work perfectly against giant beasts from other universes.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't. We don't assume human bodies are different from different universes unless there's proof. Same applies to ghosts here. You say silly things.
1. Don't bash.
2. Ghosts aren't humans. That's horrible logic, especially considering the fact that we don't have a basis for comparison in the real world.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Actually, I was assuming that Snape, Dumble, Volt, etc would be the one unleashing it. Not too crazy considering that the LotR crew had Gandolf in tow, no? You were just touting his amazing skills, so I think it's only fair that the Potterkind have one of their most powerful to cast as well, along with whatever other magic users fit the bill.Nice try, though. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
And here was me trying to,You know, use actual feats. But then if we're going to use feats not attributed to but well within the power of...well. Do you really want to go down that route against lotr lore? We could go with Galadriel singlehandedly destroying a magically fortified castle for a start. Then there's Sauron. Said to be able summon meteor strikes from space and create volcanic eruptions and change and manipulate matter by thought alone.