Originally posted by jaden101
And here was me trying to,You know, use actual feats. But then if we're going to use feats not attributed to but well within the power of...well. Do you really want to go down that route against lotr lore? We could go with Galadriel singlehandedly destroying a magically fortified castle for a start. Then there's Sauron. Said to be able summon meteor strikes from space and create volcanic eruptions and change and manipulate matter by thought alone.
Actually, no, you can't use either of the examples you cited because, dun, dun, dun...
They didn't happen in the film, nor were they referenced within. If we could cite events in the lore of novels converted to film many threads might go differently, but we cannot. That's why this is the movie vs forum and not a general vs area.
As children in the Potter films could cast the previously mentioned spells, it is safe to assume that their more powerful and knowledgeable elders can do the same. I cannot, however, reference something not seen on screen.
Originally posted by BentleyWhat spells in the movies did the Giants laugh off ? The dragons are used for sport and tortured by wizards displaying their dominance unlike in the Lotr where they rape towns whenever they want to.
Many of the Harry Potter spells are much less effective against Giants or dragons, I don't see why we should assume they'd work perfectly against giant beasts from other universes.
Originally posted by -Pr-1. I've heard you say far worse to carver and on a regular basis.
1. Don't bash.2. Ghosts aren't humans. That's horrible logic, especially considering the fact that we don't have a basis for comparison in the real world.
2. Humans turn into ghosts. Ghosts exists like humans in many areas of fiction. In the Potterverse ghosts can be petrified but not in the Lotr verse which is weaker in general.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What spells in the movies did the Giants laugh off ? The dragons are used for sport and tortured by wizards displaying their dominance unlike in the Lotr where they rape towns whenever they want to.
There weren't many giants in the movies that I can recall...
But I just noticed you build all your potterverse argument on some poorly conceived infinity fallacy of things that were never shown in the movies. May Arceus have mercy on your soul, your debating has sunk into a new low 🙁
Originally posted by BentleyGiants were never a focal point of my argument. Flight was used in spades in Potter films. Hundreds of wizards in movies. Fiendfyre, disintegration shield, Crucio, Avada Kedavra, Dementors....dead Lotr.
There weren't many giants in the movies that I can recall...But I just noticed you build all your potterverse argument on some poorly conceived infinity fallacy of things that were never shown in the movies. May Arceus have mercy on your soul, your debating has sunk into a new low 🙁
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. I've heard you say far worse to carver and on a regular basis.2. Humans turn into ghosts. Ghosts exists like humans in many areas of fiction. In the Potterverse ghosts can be petrified but not in the Lotr verse which is weaker in general.
1. Part of being a mod is disciplining people who get out of line. So again, don't bash.
2. That doesn't mean a thing, as ghosts aren't humans.
Originally posted by Robtard
Again: Blanket generalizations are silly. eg Balrog would obliterate Potter.
Most powerful magic users in LotR will have their balls handed to them by everyone of note in the Potterverse. The monsters in the Potterverse are far stronger in general. The magical weapons in the Potterverse are far more powerful than any in the LotR realm. Again, this is film only and the difference is unquestionable.
I don't care what Galadriel, and Sauron, and Gandalf did in the books; this is film only and on that side of things they are utterly outclassed, period.
And don't try and tell me that if Potter went up against the Balrog with foreknowledge of it like Gandalf had he couldn't take it considering some of the creatures he and his friends killed.
You keep saying Quan is butthurt, but you're the one living in a dream if you think Tolkien's creations have a chance here.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Most powerful magic users in LotR will have their balls handed to them by everyone of note in the Potterverse. The monsters in the Potterverse are far stronger in general. The magical weapons in the Potterverse are far more powerful than any in the LotR realm. Again, this is film only and the difference is unquestionable.I don't care what Galadriel, and Sauron, and Gandalf did in the books; this is film only and on that side of things they are utterly outclassed, period.
And don't try and tell me that if Potter went up against the Balrog with foreknowledge of it like Gandalf had he couldn't take it considering some of the creatures he and his friends killed.
You keep saying Quan is butthurt, but you're the one living in a dream if you think Tolkien's creations have a chance here.
The Balrog Vs Potter was an example to show you why blanket generalizations are silly.
Did I mention the LoTR books? Massive armies for LoTR were in the flicks.
😂 Balrog obliterates Potter; before you go loony on me, that doesn't mean Harry Potter is weak. PS Gandalf died killing the Balrog.
Oh my, another case of HP induced rage-mania in the MVF. Someone not saying "HP > All" causes vaginal weeping. Happened to old RJ, Quanchi took over. You don't need to do it too. That's Quanchi's cue to act the dunce.
ps Massive Armies > HP 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
The Balrog Vs Potter was an example to show you why blanket generalizations are silly.Did I mention the LoTR books? Massive armies for LoTR were in the flicks.
😂 Balrog obliterates Potter; before you go loony on me, that doesn't mean Harry Potter is weak. PS Gandalf died killing the Balrog.
Oh my, another case of HP induced rage-mania in the MVF. Someone not saying "HP > All" causes vaginal weeping. Happened to old RJ, Quanchi took over. You don't need to do it too. That's Quanchi's cue to act the dunce.
ps Massive Armies > HP 🙂
How do massive armies own them? The Potterkind can sit behind a shield that the LotR crew have no means to penetrate and then strike as they will. There is NOTHING in the Rings universe as seen on film that shows them in any way of being capable of penetrating that. Nothing, and that's only one of the ways in which Potter and crew can take them.
What are the LotR going to do when faced by the equivalent of wraiths that can ONLY be killed by magic on a scale that Gandalf and others have showed no indication of being able to using? This is a joke.