Team Wiz vs Team Force

Started by Robtard23 pages

Trying to super-glue two scene together doesn't make the wizards out to be Nightcrawler, as you seem to think they are.

Sure they can apparate and sure they can cast spells. That's far different than teleporting, attacking, teleporting, attacking so fast that people who can react to multiple blaster fire and sense danger around them before it happens somehow now will be sitting still with their thumbs up their midichlorian filled assholes.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Apparation:
Non-Verbal Fiendfyre (and other TK and spells that blow the Force users out the water....hell off the planet (and more apparation)):

You're claiming that they will use a certain tactic, I'm asking for a scene where they use that tactic.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Lol at your strawmanning. Wizards don't need instant teleport speed. They need instant spell-casting speed. Which they have. Jedis will be off-guard when the Wizards attack them from behind.

Again, stop saying "strawman", you have no idea what that is.

So now you're saying the wizards can't instantly teleport, yes? LoL.

Jedi can "instantly" attack with the Force. Plus they have the benifit of enhanced reflexes, reaction-time and battle precog (unless that being taken away again cos the wizards have no defense against it?).

They apparate in behind the Jedi, cast Fiendfyre, and apparate out. It's quite simple. Look at the vid. Voldemort is apparating effortlessly. They only need a second to cast their spell and the Jedi will be so focused on the fire-snake (possibly five fire-snakes) they won't even be worrying about the Wizards who are apparating behind them and AKing them . If Clone troopers can overwhelm Jedi, teleporting wizards and giant fire snakes definitely can.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seen everyone, champ.

In that case, post a clip or name a scene of this incredible speed of wizards teleporting-attacking-teleporting-attacking-teleporting all in a second. Seems you're confusing the wizards with Nightcrawler again.

Voldemort did it to Harry here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4w6E-hh_gvg#t=96s

Not quite Nightcrawler, but that's a two-second manouvre tops.

And Harry, a guy with normal reaction times had enough time to notice Voldemort was gone, turn around, and fire off a counter spell that met his half way.

Originally posted by Lestov16
They apparate in behind the Jedi, cast Fiendfyre, and apparate out. It's quite simple. Look at the vid. Voldemort is apparating effortlessly. They only need a second to cast their spell and the Jedi will be so focused on the fire-snake (possibly five fire-snakes) they won't even be worrying about the Wizards who are apparating behind them and AKing them . If Clone troopers can overwhelm Jedi, teleporting wizards and giant fire snakes definitely can.

So you can't post a clip, yet insist that the wizards can mix-and-match their powers, which I'm fine with, this "exactly as seen" is nonsense. But the Jedi have to strictly follow what's shown.

BTW, know who can spam lightning in a second and it has a wide area of attack? Palpatine. Wizards won't be casting when they're writhing in pain.

Originally posted by Robtard

Jedi can "instantly" attack with the Force.

Too bad their target is stationary and not teleporting all over the place

Look right here at 1:38 (thnx Silent Hero)

4w6E-hh_gvg#t=96s

Voldermort teleports behind Harry [/i]mid-battle[/i] and attacks him. Jedi aren't stopping Voldemort from teleporting behind them and casting Fiendfyre, or just straight AKing them, before they can even react. Voldemort alone could solo, and that's not even with his omnidirectional blast (i:59). The other 4 wizards make this a rapestomp in the Wizard's favor.

Originally posted by Lestov16
They apparate in behind the Jedi, cast Fiendfyre, and apparate out. It's quite simple. Look at the vid. Voldemort is apparating effortlessly. They only need a second to cast their spell and the Jedi will be so focused on the fire-snake (possibly five fire-snakes) they won't even be worrying about the Wizards who are apparating behind them and AKing them . If Clone troopers can overwhelm Jedi, teleporting wizards and giant fire snakes definitely can.

Post a scene where they apparate in behind somebody, cast Fiendfyre, and apparate out.

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Voldemort did it to Harry here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4w6E-hh_gvg#t=96s

Not quite Nightcrawler, but that's a two-second manouvre tops.

1) Thanks for actually posting something that supports your claim

2) That won't overwhelm Jedi speed. Harry countered.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Too bad their target is stationary and not teleporting all over the place

Look right here at 1:38 (thnx Silent Hero)

Voldermort [b]teleports behind Harry [/i]mid-battle[/i] and attacks him. Jedi aren't stopping Voldemort from teleporting behind them and casting Fiendfyre, or just straight AKing them, before they can even react. Voldemort alone could solo, and that's not even with his omnidirectional blast (i:59). The other 4 wizards make this a rapestomp in the Wizard's favor. [/B]

Too bad the wizards aren't faster than Force-enhanced people, who will be attacking first.

Repeat: 2) That won't overwhelm Jedi/Sith speed. Harry countered.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you can't post a clip,

Just did.

Originally posted by Robtard
But the Jedi have to strictly follow what's shown.,

Quan's stips, not mine. And the teleporting behind people and fiendfyring are both things Voldemort has shown that he can do. It's not like I'm attributing him powers he hasn't shown.

Originally posted by Robtard
BTW, know who can spam lightning in a second and it has a wide area of attack? Palpatine. Wizards won't be casting when they're writhing in pain.

BTW, know who can teleport and fly, and turn into an intangible smoke form, and spam a gigantic fire snake in a second and it has a wide area of attack? Voldemort. Jedi won't be force-choking when they are fleeing for their lives (which makes them easy pickings for the teleporting wizards)

Originally posted by Lestov16
Just did.

When did you post a clip of the Wizards apparating in behind people, casting Fiendfyre, and then apparating out?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post a scene where they apparate in behind somebody, cast Fiendfyre, and apparate out.

Lol at your blatant gimping, when Voldemort has shown that he can both apparate in behind people mid-battle, and that he can easily Fiendfyre them.

Originally posted by KingD19
Anakin blocked laser bolts at his back on Mustafar.

You're really trying to use Order 66? When one or two Jedi were surrounded by hundreds of Clones?

Even that Padawan at the temple took out a few clones and was blocking a bunch of blasters before going down.

There weren't always hundreds of clones attacking every single jedi.
Originally posted by Robtard
Seen everyone, champ.

In that case, post a clip or name a scene of this incredible speed of wizards teleporting-attacking-teleporting-attacking-teleporting all in a second. Seems you're confusing the wizards with Nightcrawler again.

So you're allowed to make up breaking necks but the hp side needs to post the exact tactic done in succession ? You're not even smart.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Lol at your blatant gimping, when Voldemort has shown that he can both apparate in behind people mid-battle, and that he can easily Fiendfyre them.

I'm asking you to post a scene where they use the tactic you're claiming they'll use to beat the Force users.

Originally posted by Silent Master
When did you post a clip of the Wizards apparating in behind people, casting Fiendfyre, and then apparating out?

Again, you are clearly gimping. It's quite pathetic 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
There weren't always hundreds of clones attacking every single jedi.

No, but each Jedi killed trusted the clones with their lives and weren't expecting a betrayal because they sensed no ill intent from them. Also, they were with at least a dozen or more clones in each instance. Ki-Adi-Mundi was in the middle of a battle when his clones turned on him.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Again, you are clearly gimping. It's quite pathetic 🙄

IOW, you can't prove that a Wizard has ever used the tactic you're arguing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm asking you to post a scene where they use the tactic you're claiming they'll use to beat the Force users.