Originally posted by Lestov16
Just did.Quan's stips, not mine. And the teleporting behind people and fiendfyring are both things Voldemort has shown that he can do. It's not like I'm attributing him powers he hasn't shown.
BTW, know who can teleport and fly, and turn into an intangible smoke form, [b]and
spam a gigantic fire snake in a second and it has a wide area of attack? Voldemort. Jedi won't be force-choking when they are fleeing for their lives (which makes them easy pickings for the teleporting wizards) [/B]
No. The Silent Hero else did. Stop stealing credit.
Quancho is a biased baboon. Which I'm fine with, as long as the Jedi get freedom to use their powers in kind as well.
Cool story bro, but the Force people are still faster and he'll be choked out to lalaland in a couple seconds.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you can't prove that a Wizard has ever used the tactic you're arguing.
You can't prove a Wizard is incapable of using the tactic that I'm arguing, can you? 😉
Come on. Please tell me that Voldemort is incapable of apparating or Fiendfyring, despite the fact that it is shown onscreen that it is undisputedly within his range of abilities to do so if he so chose. 😂
Originally posted by KingD19Yoda sure sensed it. Not my fault the other jedi were stupid and precog failed them. The entire jedi order was weak. They failed to even bring in Palpatine when they outnumbered him and knew ahead of time who the sith lord was.
No, but each Jedi killed trusted the clones with their lives and weren't expecting a betrayal because they sensed no ill intent from them. Also, they were with at least a dozen or more clones in each instance. Ki-Adi-Mundi was in the middle of a battle when his clones turned on him.
Originally posted by RobtardThe difference is Voldemort has done what they claimed he can do on screen. You didn't. Nowhere do the sith or jedi on screen break necks due to force powers.
No. The Silent Hero else did. Stop stealing credit.Quancho is a biased baboon. Which I'm fine with, as long as the Jedi get freedom to use their powers in kind as well.
Cool story bro, but the Force people are still faster and he'll be choked to lalaland in a couple seconds.
Originally posted by Lestov16
You can't prove a Wizard is incapable of using the tactic that I'm arguing, can you? 😉Come on. Please tell me that Voldemort is incapable of apparating or Fiendfyring, despite the fact that it is [b]shown onscreen
that it is undisputedly within his range of abilities to do so if he so chose. 😂 [/B]
I'm asking for you to provide an example of the Wizards actually using the tactic that you're arguing will allow them to win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The difference is Voldemort has done what they claimed he can do on screen. You didn't. Nowhere do the sith or jedi on screen break necks due to force powers.
Look at the biased monkey. 'Wizards can mix and match anywhich way, Force people can't.' /throws feces
Choke is an onscreen feat though, clown.
Originally posted by RobtardJedi can do things outside succession if they demonstrated the ability to do so. No one is making up new abilities for the wizards. The reason they don't have to. You did because you're biased and hate harry potter characters.
Look at the biased monkey. 'Wizards can mix and match anywhich way, Force people can't.' /throws fecesChoke is an onscreen feat though, clown.
So you're saying Harry has faster reaction times than Jedi? When Anakin was walking away from someone he was paying no attention to, but still activated his lightsaber and redirected a blast bolt back at the guy.
And everytime a Force Choke has been shown on screen, a person is following natural human reaction. Clawing at their neck to get the invisible hand off. Nobody who gets Force Choked is gonna just shrug it off.
There's also lightning, and Anakin proved he could do Force Crush at the end of 3 when as Vader, he crushed and deformed an entire room with his anger.
Oh, and sense we're trying to go this route. Jedi have legit Superspeed. Shown by Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in Episode 1. After they killed those droids, they turned into blurs and sped off the screen.
Originally posted by Lestov16
By time they realize Voldemort is in back of them, there will be either a giant fire-snake or an instant death spell they will have to deal with.
They'll know beforehand, unless you're gimping precog away again.
Not that it really matters, as it's proven the Jedi are faster and can attack first, it's their powerset, unless you want to take away Force enhanced speed and reflexes as well where the Jedi are now slower than Harry Potter?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jedi can do things outside succession if they demonstrated the ability to do so. No one is making up new abilities for the wizards. The reason they don't have to. You did because you're biased and hate harry potter characters.
Repeat:
Look at the biased monkey. 'Wizards can mix and match anywhich way, Force people can't.' /throws feces
Choke is an onscreen feat though, clown.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm asking for you to provide an example of the Wizards actually using the tactic that you're arguing will allow them to win.
Lol, no 😂. You are trying to gimp the wizards like a pathetic SW troll. You're trying to say that the Wizards are limited to a certain battle tactic. Not only is that clearly bullshit, but they undisputedly have the capabilities to employ better tactics if they so chose to.
Originally posted by KingD19When has a jedi or sith ever force choked out an opponent with tk powers themselves ? The wizards can do the same thing. They can affect someone with tk just as easily. We see Anakin and Obi force push each other at the same time. The only time we don't see anyone react is because they don't have the powers to counter. Huge difference here.
So you're saying Harry has faster reaction times than Jedi? When Anakin was walking away from someone he was paying no attention to, but still activated his lightsaber and redirected a blast bolt back at the guy.And everytime a Force Choke has been shown on screen, a person is following natural human reaction. Clawing at their neck to get the invisible hand off. Nobody who gets Force Choked is gonna just shrug it off.
There's also lightning, and Anakin proved he could do Force Crush at the end of 3 when as Vader, he crushed and deformed an entire room with his anger.
Oh, and sense we're trying to go this route. Jedi have legit Superspeed. Shown by Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in Episode 1. After they killed those droids, they turned into blurs and sped off the screen.
Yes, he crushed an entire room when he was very unstable due to his woman's passing. You can't cite that like an normal event nor was that ever used to rip into human bodies.
Voldemort's black energy destroys concrete but I don't argue it destroys jedi limbs.
Your side is desperate and has lost.
Originally posted by RobtardThe same with the jedi. But since they have never broken necks on screen with force powers they can't do so here. No one is saying the wizards are doing anything we haven't seen them do on screen.
Repeat:Look at the biased monkey. 'Wizards can mix and match anywhich way, Force people can't.' /throws feces
Choke is an onscreen feat though, clown.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Lol, no 😂. You are trying to gimp the wizards like a pathetic SW troll. You're trying to say that the Wizards are limited to a certain battle tactic. Not only is that clearly bullshit, but they undisputedly have the capabilities to employ better tactics if they so chose to.
No, I'm asking for you to provide an example of the Wizards actually using the tactic that you're arguing will allow them to win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has a jedi or sith ever force choked out an opponent with tk powers themselves ? The wizards can do the same thing. They can affect someone with tk just as easily. We see Anakin and Obi force push each other at the same time. The only time we don't see anyone react is because they don't have the powers to counter. Huge difference here.Yes, he crushed an entire room when he was very unstable due to his woman's passing. You can't cite that like an normal event nor was that ever used to rip into human bodies.
Voldemort's black energy destroys concrete but I don't argue it destroys jedi limbs.
Your side is desperate and has lost.
😐
Force Choke is the direct application of Force TK by squeezing it around an opponents neck like an invisible hand. How did you think they performed it? And yeah, we've seen Anakin and Obi-Wan Force push against each other and get knocked to the other side of the room by the shockwave. We've also seen people get rag dolled by Force TK, and the sheer weight Force TK can move. Like an X-Wing, or a multiple ton manifold, or senate pods. To say they can't break a neck simply by squeezing is reaching on your part.
And Voldemort never did that exact combo you guys keep bringing up, but we know he can do it. We know if Anakin wanted to, he could pull the same thing off. He's easily strong enough as even through simple line of sight, he Force Choked someone light years away.