Originally posted by Casper Whitey
So now each Jedi is walking around doing multiple force chokes? Lol, dude.And BTW, you said "They'll be busy grasping for air for the mere moments they have of being conscious", eh? Bit of info for you: Apparition is instant. Instant>>>>>>>Mere moments. All it takes is one wizard to apparate high into the sky and casting Fiendfyre. Once Fiendfyre is cats, the fight is over. The Jedi have no counter for Fiendfyre. None. Nada. Butkus. Nothing.
If a not fully trained Jedi did when he needed, why not a more powerful Jedi master or Sith Lord.
This assume that they'll be calm and casting spells while choking when they have quickly fading moments of consciousness. It's a faulty assumption. Add that besides being choked, they could also be simultaneously slammed and/or hit with Force lightning, as Palpatine does love his lightning.
Covered that before: Jedi do have a counter for fiendfyre, it's attacking first and not allowing spells to be cast in the first place. Like the wizards, they're not idiots.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Never said they can't, just if they would. Not their style.
But a wizard apparating into the sky and casting fiendfyre from the clouds is a wizard "style"? Trying to recall this happening in any of the HP films. Post a vid or name the scene, please. Cos I have RoTJ for the double Force choke and RoTS for the double Force slam.
Originally posted by RobtardInstant>>>>>>Moments. Accept it.
If a not fully trained Jedi did when he needed, why not a more powerful Jedi master or Sith Lord.This assume that they'll be calm and casting spells while choking when they have quickly fading moments of consciousness. It's a faulty assumption. Add that besides being choked, they could also be simultaneously slammed and/or hit with Force lightning, as Palpatine does love his lightning.
Covered that before: Jedi do have a counter for fiendfyre, it's attacking first and not allowing spells to be cast in the first place. Like the wizards, they're not idiots.Instant>>>>Moments. Accept it.
But a wizard apparating into the sky and casting fiendfyre from the clouds is a wizard "style"? Trying to recall this happening in any of the HP films. Post a vid or name the scene, please. Cos I have RoTJ for the double Force choke and RoTS for the double Force slam.It is, actually. :35, FTW.
You just got served, Sport.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Instant>>>>>>Moments. Accept it.Instant>>>>Moments. Accept it.
It is, actually. :35, FTW.
You just got served, Sport.
Being choked first and unconscious = no casting spells, which apparition is, a spell.
See above.
LoL. Let's see. Bellatrix was already flying (half apparating) and cast a fire spell (not fiendfyre) to make a circle of flame. Teen wizards ran through that particular fire spell and got out, Jedi could easily do the same; especially with their speed. Fiendfyre is a far more deadly spell. You should really know this, since you're always championing HP wizards no matter what.
Yeah, Bellatrix not apparting high into the clouds and not casting fiendfyre as you claimed sure served me, champ. Try again; try harder.
Originally posted by Robtard
Being choked first and unconscious = no casting spells, which apparition is, as spell.See above.
LoL. Let's see. Bellatrix was already half apparating and cast a fire spell (not fiendfyre) to make a circle of flame. FFS, teen wizards ran through that particular fire spell and got out, Jedi could easily do the same.
Yeah, Bellatrix not apparting high into the clouds and not casting fiendfyre as you claimed sure served me, champ. Try again; try harder.
Once again: Instant>>>>Moments. Not that hard to understand.
See above.
How do you think she got up there? You think God miracled her ass up there? (Full Metal Jacket moment FTW.)
She and Fenrir cast Fiendfyre in an effort to isolate Harry and Ginny. The Fiendfyre recognized this and it closed after Ginny ran through it. The circle of Fiendfyre was cast to keep the adults out of the fight. The Fiendfyre then died down because Bellatrix stopped commanding it and was focused on Harry and Ginny.
Now, if and when Voldemort apparates up high and casts Fiendfyre and commands it the entire time, it will grow as large and move as fast as he desires.One by one it will kill the Jedi one by one.
You can deny this all you want, but it's the cold hard truth.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Once again: Instant>>>>Moments. Not that hard to understand.See above.
How do you think she got up there? You think God miracled her ass up there? (Full Metal Jacket moment FTW.)
She and Fenrir cast Fiendfyre in an effort to isolate Harry and Ginny. The Fiendfyre recognized this and it closed after Ginny ran through it. The circle of Fiendfyre was cast to keep the adults out of the fight. The Fiendfyre then died down because Bellatrix stopped commanding it and was focused on Harry and Ginny.
Now, if and when Voldemort apparates up high and casts Fiendfyre and commands it the entire time, it will grow as large and move as fast as he desires.One by one it will kill the Jedi one by one.
You can deny this all you want, but it's the cold hard truth.
Once again. Jedi attack first due to their Force powerset. Once again. No casting spells when you're panicking and gasping for oxygen, especially when you're out in mere moments. Can't explain it any simplier.
See above, again.
So one or more of the wizards will already be flying before the fight starts? Nope. Apparating and Half Apparating are different. One teleports you to another place; the other lets you fly.
That wasn't Fiendfyre. If it was and Bellatrix stopped commanding it as you claimed, it would have gone buckwild. Jedi could easily avoid that fire. But if you want to go with that, sure, Fiendfyre is far weaker than seen.
Once again, you inferred that the Jedi wouldn't Force choke, cos it wasn't their "style". So show me this 'apparate(teleport) high into the clouds and cast Fiendfyre while apparently floating in said clouds and controlling the flames' style.
Post proof, so it can't be denied. Bedtime now, pumpkin.
Originally posted by RobtardLol, dude. The wizards will be long gone and too far away for the Jedi to apply said powerset. Apparition is instant. You don't want to accept this so you're pulling the broken record routine again again, "ZOMG THE JEDI ATTACK FIRST!!!"
Once again. Jedi attack first due to their Force powerset. Once again. No casting spells when you're panicking and gasping for oxygen, especially when you're out in mere moments. Can't explain it any simplier.See above, again.
Sorry, screen feats say otherwise.
So one or more of the wizards will already be flying before the fight starts? Nope. Apparating and Half Apparating are different. One teleports you to another place; the other lets you fly.
See above.
That wasn't Fiendfyre. Not sure how else to explain that. If it was and Bellatrix stopped commanding it as you claimed, it would have gone buckwild. Jedi could easily avoid that fire. But if you want to go with that, sure, Fiendfyre is far weaker than seen.AAAAAHHHHAHAHAAA, it was fiendfyre, dumbass. No other spell in HPverse is even remotely similar to what we see in the vid.
No. If Voldemort surrounds them with fiendfyre and commands it to close the circle on them, they have nowhere to run.
Once again, you inferred that the Jedi wouldn't Force choke, cos it wasn't their "style". So show me this 'apparate(teleport) high into the clouds and cast Fiendfyre while apparently floating in said clouds and controlling the flames' style.Once again, you cannot grasp the simplest concept. Apparition is instant. By the time the Jedi apply said choke, their target/s will no longer be where they were aiming.Post proof, so it can't be denied. Bedtime now, pumpkin.
I just showed you what you asked and you don't like it. You're like an old man pitching a fit because he lost his hearing aid.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, dude. The wizards will be long gone and too far away for the Jedi to apply said powerset. Apparition is instant. You don't want to accept this so you're pulling the broken record routine again again, "ZOMG THE JEDI ATTACK FIRST!!!"Sorry, screen feats say otherwise.
See above.
AAAAAHHHHAHAHAAA, it was fiendfyre, dumbass. No other spell in HPverse is even remotely similar to what we see in the vid.
No. If Voldemort surrounds them with fiendfyre and commands it to close the circle on them, they have nowhere to run.
Once again, you cannot grasp the simplest concept. Apparition is instant. By the time the Jedi apply said choke, their target/s will no longer be where they were aiming.
I just showed you what you asked and you don't like it. You're like an old man pitching a fit because he lost his hearing aid.
So wizards are now faster than people with Force enhanced speed and reflexes, allowing them to attack first. Cool story, bro. But nope, fanboying won't give the wizards greater speed.
Screen feats do tell us that the Jedi have enhanced reflexes and speed.
Above.
So you're going with Fiendfyre being lesser. Poor move.
This would be after Voldermort 'apparates high into the clouds and cast and controls Fiendfyre from there'. Another cool story, bro. But you can't show this being a "style", yet insist the Jedi stick to certain attack styles you need so they act like fools and lose. Biased much?
Jedi are faster, they attack first. ie Before the wizards Apparate. Why this 'one comes before the other due to speed' escapes you is funny.
No what you posted didn't support what you claimed. You're seeing what you need to see, again. Reality: You showed an already flying wizard casting a fire spell. Even if we allow that to be Fiendfyre, which I'm fine with, wizards won't be already flying when the fight starts. Says the guy crying cos the vid he posted didn't show what he needed, easy fella, easy.
Originally posted by RobtardNo, not faster. Pay attention.
So wizards are now faster than people with Force enhanced speed and reflexes, allowing them to attack first. Cool story, bro. But nope, fanboying won't give the wizards greater speed.
Screen feats do tell us that the Jedi have enhanced reflexes and speed.Hey Rob, why didn't Ki Adi Mundi speed blitz those clones that shot him and kill them all?
Above.Derp.
So you're going with Fiendfyre being lesser. Poor move.Lol, you know nothing of Fiendfyre. Less even about HPverse yet you still argue against it.
This would be after Voldermort 'apparates high into the clouds and cast and controls Fiendfyre from there'. Another cool story, bro. But you can't show this being a "style", yet insist the Jedi stick to certain attack styles you need so they act like fools and lose. Biased much?The Jedi do stick to certain attack styles, as do the wizards. This thread is not about what they would do, it's about what they could do, right?
Jedi are faster, they attack first. ie Before the wizards Apparate. Why this 'one comes before the other due to speed' escapes you is funny.Instant>>>>>Moments. Accept it.
No what you posted didn't support what you claimed. You're seeing what you need to see, again. Reality: You showed an already flying wizard casting a fire spell. Even if we allow that to be Fiendfyre, which I'm fine with, wizards won't be already flying when the fight starts. Says the guy crying cos the vid he posted didn't show what he needed, easy fella, easy.
Lol, dude, learn about HP before wasting my time with such nonsense. I lost count of the number of times I mentioned a HP spell and you were like "WTF is that? Confundus? Oppugno? Explain."
Again, if you know nothing of HPverse, stay out of HP vs threads.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
No, not faster. Pay attention.Hey Rob, why didn't Ki Adi Mundi speed blitz those clones that shot him and kill them all?
Derp.
Lol, you know nothing of Fiendfyre. Less even about HPverse yet you still argue against it.
The Jedi do stick to certain attack styles, as do the wizards. This thread is not about what they would do, it's about what they could do, right?
Instant>>>>>Moments. Accept it.
Lol, dude, learn about HP before wasting my time with such nonsense. I lost count of the number of times I mentioned a HP spell and you were like "WTF is that? Confundus? Oppugno? Explain."
Again, if you know nothing of HPverse, stay out of HP vs threads.
So just going to bullheadedly ignore Star Wars canon so the wizards can just be faster. Very fanboyish, imo.
Derp. CSI/PSI. Derp. Why didn't Bellatrix use her control of that fiendfyre to kill the adults? Derp. See, you can't ignore CSI/PSI just when you need it. It's very biased.
Derp indeed. See above. Derp.
Sadly, I'm more well versed in HP films than you. Derp.
And as I said, where is this "aparate high into the sky and cast fiendfyre and the control it from there" style you isn't on? Cos that video wasn't it. I might as well post a vid of Vader choke-holding Padme to insist Jedi can double Force chock people into unconsciousness in mere moments. But I don't have to, as I can support my claim with an exact showing of what I claimed.
Before > After. Accept that.
LoL, now you're resorting to lies. I've seen the films and If I'm not sure of something I use the HP wiki for info. So more derp.
Derp. See above. Derp. You posted a vid that didn't support your claim and are dancing now.
Originally posted by RobtardI have already addressed this multiple times.
I gave you the link to watch ROTJ for free. Watch it; then debate.
Originally posted by AscendancyOther side appears to be the fanboys.
Why even waste your time? I could see if there were some logic going on here but every piece of evidence is being rebutted by idiocy. It's pointless arguing with the Potter fanbois.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen the movie but the feat doesn't apply to wizards since they can counter.
Ha, no.
But proof the wizards can "counter" a Force choke after they're being choked and within the moments they have before losing conciousness? Gamoreans where out lickety split. Prove it, or STFU.
Originally posted by RobtardIf you have ever seen someone choked or been choked yourself you'd realize the chokee flails their arms about. That's how easy tk can be in the potterverse. Game over, jedi.
You haven't, as you had no idea what was being talked about until it the scene was explained yto you.But proof the wizards can "counter" a Force choke after they're being choked and within the moments they have before losing conciousness? Prove it, or STFU.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you have ever seen someone choked or been choked yourself you'd realize the chokee flails their arms about. That's how easy tk can be in the potterverse. Game over, jedi.
LoL, because the Gamoreans where "flailing" their arms about? No. People who are being choke, grab for their neck in desperation as seen with Admiral Motti, the Gamoreans and Padme.
Regardless, desperate and wild arm flailing do not = casting spells. Another sad attempt, but prove they can counter, or STFU already.