Team Wiz vs Team Force

Originally posted by Silent Master
Please stop lying.

Now, Can you provide an example of the Wizards actually using the tactic that you're arguing will allow them to win?

Originally posted by Lestov16
I already did. I posted a video showing Voldemort can teleport behind people mid-battle, and I posted a video showing Voldemort can cast Fiendfyre in a second without a spell or wand. Stop being dense and put 2 and 2 together.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to debate logically. I wasn't aware you were just trying to spite quanchi, like an immature child 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
The dude was force choking the very reason he turned to the dark side you fool. Watch rots because you obviously haven't.

I don't argue things or tactics never used on screen. Not saying any of them can't I am saying they won't due to it being out of character and based entirely on speculation.

He turned Dark Side long before he Force Choked Padme. Remember when he killed all the kids at the temple? Remember when he killed all the Sepratists at Palpatines order so he'd have no competition when he took over? Remember when he helped Palpatine kill Mace Windu? He was evil long before he even used the force choke on Padme.

And right there! Tactics never used on screen. Why then didn't you argue against Lestov's tactic that Voldemort would use, when he's never done it and is entirely based on speculation?

Originally posted by Lestov16

IOW, you can't provide an example of the Wizards actually using the tactic that you're arguing will allow them to win.

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I love how in your quest to spite quanchi, you have turned into the very troll that you revile. How sad...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said they couldn't force choke I said they can't break necks. I am always consistent and objective unlike yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has a jedi or sith ever force choked out an opponent with tk powers themselves ?

Bold face lying now? LoL, stupid clown:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the rots scene where Anakin and Obi both use force push on each other until they ultimately both fly back. Vader's victims can't fight back unlike the hp wizards. I already told you this.

That's was Force push and they met power-to-power at exactly the same time, dummy.

REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ.

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Originally posted by KingD19
He turned Dark Side long before he Force Choked Padme. Remember when he killed all the kids at the temple? Remember when he killed all the Sepratists at Palpatines order so he'd have no competition when he took over? Remember when he helped Palpatine kill Mace Windu? He was evil long before he even used the force choke on Padme.

And right there! Tactics never used on screen. Why then didn't you argue against Lestov's tactic that Voldemort would use, when he's never done it and is entirely based on speculation?

From what I read Voldemort used both tactics on screen. If it's used on screen it's a viable option.

Originally posted by Robtard
This:

Bold face lying now? LoL, stupid clown:

That's was Force push and they met power-to-power at exactly the same time, dummy.

REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ.

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Yes, they can since both Obi and Anakin did so to each other. Choking takes time which is why Yoda force pushed Palpatine knowing full well he'd counter while he choked.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he couldn't force choke. Not once. I contested breaking necks. You acted like he never used the force choke prior to the first three movies.

From what I read Voldemort used both tactics on screen. If it's used on screen it's a viable option.

You said he couldn't Force Choke in a fight against someone with TK abilities. You also said him Force Choking Padme was what turned him to the dark side. Both are false.

And while he has used those tactics on screen, he never used that combo, which means it's out of character by your definition, which means he'd never use it, right?

And saying he can't break a neck isn't logical at all. The force clearly has enough power as people like Yoda even well past their prime can heft a fighter ship, and hurl senate pods. The Force Choke is used as intimidation, or to ko someone without killing them. It's an invisible TK hand squeezing the windpipe. It doesn't take much more than simply adding more force to break a neck.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying when have they force choked an opponent into submission with tk powers themselves ? That hasn't happened. The only victims are the ones without powers who just sit there and choke. You don't even grasp what it is I am saying, dwarf.

Yes, they can since both Obi and Anakin did so to each other. Choking takes time which is why Yoda force pushed Palpatine knowing full well he'd counter while he choked.

So when shown to be a liar, you go back to more railroading, "Jedi can't force choke a wizard cos they've never force choked a wizard". Stupid clown.

Watch RoTJ, choking takes a matter of seconds and the person is left helplessly grasping for air.

Also:

REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ?

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Originally posted by KingD19
You said he couldn't Force Choke in a fight against someone with TK abilities. You also said him Force Choking Padme was what turned him to the dark side. Both are false.

And while he has used those tactics on screen, he never used that combo, which means it's out of character by your definition, which means he'd never use it, right?

And saying he can't break a neck isn't logical at all. The force clearly has enough power as people like Yoda even well past their prime can heft a fighter ship, and hurl senate pods. The Force Choke is used as intimidation, or to ko someone without killing them. It's an invisible TK hand squeezing the windpipe. It doesn't take much more than simply adding more force to break a neck.

False. You misunderstanding what I said and trying to debate based on that false premise is your problem.

Never been done on screen. Not viable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I said he was force choking people long before the first three movies. He can force choke but it won't do him any good since they can counter. His victims don't have any powers to counter.

False. You misunderstanding what I said and trying to debate based on that false premise is your problem.

Never been done on screen. Not viable.

Wow....just wow.

Originally posted by Robtard
So when shown to be a liar, you go back to more railroading, "Jedi can't force choke a wizard cos they've never force choked a wizard". Stupid clown.

Watch RoTJ, choking takes a matter of seconds and the person is left helplessly grasping for air.

Also:

REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ?

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Yes, a normal person without any powers. Wow. What a badass.

Voldemort was being drowned and he immediately countered. Do you even watch the movies ?

He debates like an overly emotional little girl.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They can try but the wizard can counter while it's being done. That's what I have always said, dwarf.

Yes, a normal person without any powers. Wow. What a badass.

Voldemort was being drowned and he immediately countered. Do you even watch the movies ?

REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ?

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Drowning isn't the same as having pressure applied to your neck where you're KO'd in mere moments. You're reaching, trying to use a lesser to counter a greater; it only works the other way around, clown.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wow....just wow.

Originally posted by Robtard
REPEAT😛roof the wizards can counter Force choke with their telekinesis, especially when they'll be frantically grasping for air and will be knocked out in a few seconds, as seen in RoTJ?

Post proof or STFU aleady.

Drowning isn't the same as having pressure applied to your neck where you're KO'd in mere moments. You're reaching, trying to use a lesser to counter a greater; it only works the other way around, clown.

I didn't concede anything. I'm just amazed at you is all, lol. And if you couldn't speak to me like I'm some sort of child...thanks.

Anyway, Rob is 100% correct. Drowning is different from Force Choke, as with Force Choke there is telekinetic pressure squeezing and constricting your windpipe. You can't defend against that by pulling your head out of the water.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't breathe either way. Voldemort countered and wasn't out of breath at all. Voldemort easily moves the giant with a simple gesture of his hand. He moves vader back breaking the hold.

LoL, this chimp. Can't breathe and blood circulation is cut off to your head, that's what causes the quick KO, fool. You're so weak and cowardly.

"Nuh-uh, Voldermort wins!" tactics won't win here, Quan.

Watch RoTJ, grasping desperately and choked out in mere moments, multiple opponents too.

Watch RoTS, force slammed into unconciousness in a moment, multiple opponents too. Another they can use here. Jedi are far more versatile.

Originally posted by KingD19
I didn't concede anything. I'm just amazed at you is all, lol. And if you couldn't speak to me like I'm some sort of child...thanks.

Anyway, Rob is 100% correct. Drowning is different from Force Choke, as with Force Choke there is telekinetic pressure squeezing and constricting your windpipe. You can't defend against that by pulling your head out of the water.

You can easily move your arms while being choked and that's all that is required to use tk. I mean hell it's an instinctual reaction to move your arms while being choked so looks like I win again.

Concentration is required to use TK. It's hard to concentrate on bending the Force to your will when your brain is screaming at you to get air because all of it is being forced out of your throat while it's being squeezed at the same time.