Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I just examined the significance. You're too dense to get it.

No, that's you being robtardy.

Harry resisted. Winning a duel or beating someone doesn't involve then mocking you while laying on your backside. You're free to have a foolish opinion and be stupid and childish.

Harry fled multiple times. Harry had help multiple times. Dumbledore died later on. He was screwed via dark magic aka Voldemort.

You have no grasp of pretty much anything that has occurred in the potter films. You should avoid this topic at all costs.

You tried to shift goal posts. Didn't work. Move on clown

Again with "He's in my f*cking head man! Please save me from Robby!!!"

What happenes after the win doesn't affect the win itself. You'd know this if you could look at this without your Vold bias.

Harry fleeing caused Vold to fail. He set out to kill him and failed multiple time. He's not a very efficient villian if he can't beat a child

Concession accepted

^hahahaha nice

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
like i said

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Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
your "examining" doesn't exactly give us any confidence

"Winning a duel or beating someone doesn't involve then mocking you while laying on your backside" is that your opinion

#gothim

Originally posted by juggerman
You tried to shift goal posts. Didn't work. Move on clown

Again with "He's in my f*cking head man! Please save me from Robby!!!"

What happenes after the win doesn't affect the win itself. You'd know this if you could look at this without your Vold bias.

Harry fleeing caused Vold to fail. He set out to kill him and failed multiple time. He's not a very efficient villian if he can't beat a child

Concession accepted

Your immature tactics won't save your piss poor debating.

What ?

Fleeing a fight is cowardice. He did try his best and let his friends die for him. Voldemort pointed this out in the films. Voldemort wanted a one on one battle and refused help. That's called being a man but you'd rather let your friends die and avoid a one on one fight. Very telling.m

Voldemort defeated him. Harry needed saving.

You apparently don't know the meaning of the word.

Originally posted by juggerman

Again with "He's in my f*cking head man! Please save me from Robby!!!"

LoL! it's so true.

I probably should start paying property tax on Quanchi112's unfortunate head 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL! it's so true.

I probably should start paying property tax on Quanchi112's unfortunate head 👆

This does not deter my superior debating and position.

#victorytastessweet

#Irony

Your position here is a 'fetal' one, since everyone outdebates you and you resort to crying and flaming 👆

hahaah, that and he seems to have a warped sense of what feats classify a win over dumbledore

To be fair, this is the same person that thinks losing every battle zone he's even been in is an accomplishment to be proud of.

not sure if insulting me or quan or 3rd party

Originally posted by Robtard
#Irony

Your position here is a 'fetal' one, since everyone outdebates you and you resort to crying and flaming 👆

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
hahaah, that and he seems to have a warped sense of what feats classify a win over dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
Any wizard having the most powerful wand is a trump card but it doesn't make one unbeatable. Dumbledore feared Voldemort as well. Movies are different than the book. Movie special features said Voldemort was the greatest wizard. Dumbledore was on his ass and had the fight dictated to him. He sat back while Voldemort possessed Harry and looked like a scared old man. Voldemort was the better wizard.

Highly disagree. Dumbledore is clearly the more powerful wizard as in their engagement when ever Dumbledore went on the offensive it penetrated voldemort while voldemort needed to use a wide range, room consuming, almost unblock able spell that didn't even take Dumbledore out of the game. Also from the sorcerers stone "Who's the one wizard Voldemort has always feared". " Dumbledore". Well again Dumbledore having the elder wand, Dumbledore was able to defeat grindlewlad who was the master of the elder wand. So it may present a slight advantage but not something you can't overcome if you have the natural power to do so.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Highly disagree. Dumbledore is clearly the more powerful wizard as in their engagement when ever Dumbledore went on the offensive it penetrated voldemort while voldemort needed to use a wide range, room consuming, almost unblock able spell that didn't even take Dumbledore out of the game. Also from the sorcerers stone "Who's the one wizard Voldemort has always feared". " Dumbledore". Well again Dumbledore having the elder wand, Dumbledore was able to defeat grindlewlad who was the master of the elder wand. So it may present a slight advantage but not something you can't overcome if you have the natural power to do so.

Yes, he fears him but the same can be said for Dumbledore. Voldemort did not fell from him and took him right on. The wand still helps any wizard out power wise.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What penetrated Voldemort ? Voldemort displayed more power throughout their fight. Dumbledore used the Fire Voldemort summoned and the water in the surroundings. Voldemort clearly throw around more power whereas Dumbledore was on the defensive.

Yes, he fears him but the same can be said for Dumbledore. Voldemort did not fell from him and took him right on. The wand still helps any wizard out power wise.

The water spell, expelliarmius spell almost got to voldemort if he didn't use the fire snake which dumbledore took care of easily. Dumbledore can easily match voldemort power as we see, Firestorm. Now if you read the books then you definitely get an accurate picture of dumbledore said power. Even in the movie it ends in a stalemate with dumbledore actually having the edge as when he had voldemort encased in water he could have drowned him if Harry hadn't gotten so close. Then even when he shot out the dark magic blast dumbledore blocked it.

No where does it say in the movies that Dumbledore feared voldemort. If he did he feared him as a threat to his students and the wizardimg world not to him as an individual. Voldemort fears him as a threat to his power and someone who could take him out. Voldemort feared him even when he had horcurxes, what does that tell you about dumbledore said skills.

The only reason it ended in a stalemate was because voldemort disapparated away and if you saw he noticed he could t beat dumbledore. While Dumbledore came close in every attack except the sand spell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Any wizard having the most powerful wand is a trump card but it doesn't make one unbeatable. Dumbledore feared Voldemort as well. Movies are different than the book. Movie special features said Voldemort was the greatest wizard. Dumbledore was on his ass and had the fight dictated to him. He sat back while Voldemort possessed Harry and looked like a scared old man. Voldemort was the better wizard.

Sorry bud, the creator of the universe you love so much and what the movies are directly based on.. has stated dumble is the most powerful wizard. That's exponentially more proof than your opinion.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sorry bud, the creator of the universe you love so much and what the movies are directly based on.. has stated dumble is the most powerful wizard. That's exponentially more proof than your opinion.

Finally we are agreed on something.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The water spell, expelliarmius spell almost got to voldemort if he didn't use the fire snake which dumbledore took care of easily. Dumbledore can easily match voldemort power as we see, Firestorm. Now if you read the books then you definitely get an accurate picture of dumbledore said power. Even in the movie it ends in a stalemate with dumbledore actually having the edge as when he had voldemort encased in water he could have drowned him if Harry hadn't gotten so close. Then even when he shot out the dark magic blast dumbledore blocked it.

No where does it say in the movies that Dumbledore feared voldemort. If he did he feared him as a threat to his students and the wizardimg world not to him as an individual. Voldemort fears him as a threat to his power and someone who could take him out. Voldemort feared him even when he had horcurxes, what does that tell you about dumbledore said skills.

The only reason it ended in a stalemate was because voldemort disapparated away and if you saw he noticed he could t beat dumbledore. While Dumbledore came close in every attack except the sand spell.

Dumbledore does have skills but we see the two duel and Dumbledore looks scared not Voldemort. The entire wizarding world feared Voldemort not Dumbledore.

He changed tactics due to being short on time. Dumbledore was on the defensive save the water spell. Voldemort created fire whereas Dumbledore just manipulated water. Voldemort also created such power he broke all the glass and put the old man in his ass.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sorry bud, the creator of the universe you love so much and what the movies are directly based on.. has stated dumble is the most powerful wizard. That's exponentially more proof than your opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Water spell just manipulated the water. That wasn't that powerful of a spell. The expelliarmus spell was not powerful either. Dumboedore countered the fire snake but that isn't showings he's more powerful. Books are different. Films only.

Dumbledore does have skills but we see the two duel and Dumbledore looks scared not Voldemort. The entire wizarding world feared Voldemort not Dumbledore.

He changed tactics due to being short on time. Dumbledore was on the defensive save the water spell. Voldemort created fire whereas Dumbledore just manipulated water. Voldemort also created such power he broke all the glass and put the old man in his ass.

Oh my. You actually went there. You basically just said, well this guy did some pretty cool stuff that was like never seen by another wizard, but it was weak and dint mean anything. Manipulating water in that fashion takes concentration, very strong concentration I might add. Expelliarmius was pushing voldemorts curse back that's why he used Fiendfyre. Then Dumbledore took care of that and it's said in the description that he manipulated the fire to his will and launched it back at Voldemort. Taking on anything voldemort can throw at you and counter it like he did and live to talk about it, not being tired it definitely shows you are powerful and being the last one standing.

Dumbledore was not scared. The look on his face on Fiemdfyre was seeing a huge flaming snake and trying to protect Harry. That was caution not fear. Voldemort was scared. At the end of the duel, did you see his face. That was fear, he was thinking, I can't kill you, what power do you posses. That why he attempted to protect Harry instead of continuing the duel. Why would they be afraid of dumbledore, he was on their side, voldemort wasn't. Dumbledore didn't go around killing people he went around helping and when they thought he was crazy they were scared. There is proof for that.

Dumbledore was on the defensive because he was trying to keep Harry alive. So you are basically saying that Dumbledore can't do that. Firestorm comes to mind. The fire he created with his mind in The Half Blood Prince. Also if voldemort feared him, he definitely had a lot more tricks up his sleeve. Everything voldemort threw at Dumbledore, he could take and even return. Voldemort on the other hand ran out of tricks and was afraid. You are supporting the wrong/losing side.