Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Film version is not the same. They based it off her work but they didn't copy her entire work scene for scene
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Does based on translate to exactly the same ? No, films only here.

Markus says so. That's with a "k," wiki warrior.

Dumbledore is the clear winner. We don't care what your opinion is. Just concede this argument and consider voldemort the greatest in secret however you will always be wrong as Dumbledore is the clear and obvious winner.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Film version is not the same. They based it off her work but they didn't copy her entire work scene for scene
.

Does based on translate to exactly the same ? No, films only here.

Markus says so. That's with a "k," wiki warrior.

It doesn't matter if it's the same scene or scene.. it's almost all the same scene for scene. Most of what happens is just how it goes down in the books. You would have a point if it was vastly different. It's not. When it's virtually the same... The creator of the universe has the utmost say on the creative design of her work. She says Dumble was.. he was. It's that simple

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It doesn't matter if it's the same scene or scene.. it's almost all the same scene for scene. Most of what happens is just how it goes down in the books. You would have a point if it was vastly different. It's not. When it's virtually the same... The creator of the universe has the utmost say on the creative design of her work. She says Dumble was.. he was. It's that simple

Well said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is valid because we see the lengths he goes to protect Harry.

I brought up you acting ridiculous like him and making shit up. Act like an adult and get treated like one. Act like a child and get called Roberta.

Harry did live but did so with others aid. Voldemort let wouldn't accept others aid against him. We even see Belltarix ask for permission and he flat out denies her. If you ignore context and Harry fleeing like he's some champion then you're an idiot.

Voldemort killed Snape. 😂 Voldemort still came after Harry. He still imposed his will on the wizarding world. Dumbledore went down. Voldemort rose to power despite the ministry of magic actively opposing him.

Harry resisted him due to the inspiration and words of Dumbledore and friends. He mocked Harry at what he stood for while he was helpless on his back. You thinking Harry won shows you have no idea what winning means. If someone shoves me and I resist I didn't win anything I just resisted being pushed.

It isn't valid since it brought nothing to the scene.

Please get over whatever slight rob did that caused you to be obsessed with him. Or at least pretend to move past it

I never said he was a champion. Twisting again like the clown you are. He won, Vold lost. Deal

Voldemort didn't kill Snape. Geez you don't even know the movies you claim to love! 😂 😂

If we race and you win but fall on your face and I mock you, did I now win? Cuz according to you the winner cannot possibly be mocked by the loser!!!! TIS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dumbledore is the clear winner. We don't care what your opinion is. Just concede this argument and consider voldemort the greatest in secret however you will always be wrong as Dumbledore is the clear and obvious winner.
No, because you're clearly wrong. Voldemort dictated the fight. Dumbledore held the greatest wand ever and was unable to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore also failed to protect and stop the possession of Harry. Dumbledore earned himself a death sentence because he was foolish when dealing with Voldemort dark magic.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It doesn't matter if it's the same scene or scene.. it's almost all the same scene for scene. Most of what happens is just how it goes down in the books. You would have a point if it was vastly different. It's not. When it's virtually the same... The creator of the universe has the utmost say on the creative design of her work. She says Dumble was.. he was. It's that simple

No, it is not. The entire end battle with Voldemort vs. Harry was different. In the books I'm told Voldemort was completely unaware of his horcruxes being destroyed and in the films he felt it happen. That's a clear and obvious difference. So don't you dare say yeah they are the same when that isn't the case.

In the books was I bet there were differences with the Voldemort/Dumbledore scene.

We don't argue based off Superman in the comics because the films were based off those stories. Don't be moronic.

Cite film evidence to support your jackass theories.

Originally posted by juggerman
It isn't valid since it brought nothing to the scene.

Please get over whatever slight rob did that caused you to be obsessed with him. Or at least pretend to move past it

I never said he was a champion. Twisting again like the clown you are. He won, Vold lost. Deal

Voldemort didn't kill Snape. Geez you don't even know the movies you claim to love! 😂 😂

If we race and you win but fall on your face and I mock you, did I now win? Cuz according to you the winner cannot possibly be mocked by the loser!!!! TIS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

it is the same lengths he goes to protect Harry. You disagreeing with a fact isn't going to change the fact.

You regress into a child when I cite evidence. You deny like a child which reminds me of him.

No, he did not win. He fled. He fled with help. Voldemort accepted no help and wanted him one on one. Undeniable.

Voldemort wounded him and his horcurux did which is an extension of himself so yes he most certainly did. Do you know what a horcurux is ? 😆

Harry did not win he resisted. If I push you and you resist you don't claim you won the fight.

It's like saying Voldemort defeated Dumbledore's water bubble because he broke free. That's juggerman logic at its finest. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cool fanfic. At lest try to be an adult.

"Irony"

You flame and insult in every thread as a means to detract away from your awful debating and inability to show how your favorite wins.

Originally posted by juggerman
Please get over whatever slight rob did that caused you to be obsessed with him. Or at least pretend to move past it

That would be the adult thing for him to do. Maybe in a few years?

Originally posted by Robtard
"Irony"

You flame and insult in every thread as a means to detract away from your awful debating skills and inability to show how your favorite wins.

I have cited evidence over and over again. I may flame a little in there but I debate. You just show up with fake captions and think you're debating. You were humiliated multiple times by your own friend in the game of thrones thread. He mocked you for being ridiculous and wrong. It was enjoyable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have cited evidence over and over again. I may flame a little in there but I debate.

You just show up with fake captions and think you're debating. You were humiliated multiple times by your own friend in the game of thrones thread. He mocked you for being ridiculous and wrong. It was enjoyable.

No you haven't/don't. You make absurd claims based on what you want to believe regardless of truth.

The rest is more "no you!" ranting and flaming, so thanks for proving my point, grow up 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
No you haven't/don't. You make absurd claims based on what you want to believe regardless of truth.

The rest is more "no you!" ranting and flaming, so thanks for proving my point, grow up 👆

Give me an example of a fact I have turned into an absurd interpretation ?

All you do is flame where is I debate. Try it sometimes you might surprise yourself. Watch and learn.

You concede to Bashar. Great.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because you're clearly wrong. Voldemort dictated the fight. Dumbledore held the greatest wand ever and was unable to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore also failed to protect and stop the possession of Harry. Dumbledore earned himself a death sentence because he was foolish when dealing with Voldemort dark magic.

It's a shame. I actually wanted your help. So according to you dictating a fight but never gaining the upper hand makes you superior. Actually if voldemort never broke off the expelliarmus vs Arvada kedavra and if Harry would never have gotten to close he would have drowned him. No one outside can save you from an attack like that. If he could have protected Harry he wouldn't have bothered with snake teaching him occlumecy. Dumbledore can make mistakes, however him dieing by that is not a bad showing. Dumbledore not defending Harry from voldemort so occlumecy is not a low showing. You are clearly wrong and you are just like Roberta.

Anyhow, lunatic fanboy ranting aside, even ignoring the source material and JK Rowling, whose word is final, Voldermort attempted to use anus-lipped Malfoy to kill Dumbledore for him and only fully attacked Hogwarts after Dumbledore was dead.

That alone should tell you that Voldermort despite his vast dark magic, knew who the real top-dog of wizard-world was. Dumbledore.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's a shame. I actually wanted your help. So according to you dictating a fight but never gaining the upper hand makes you superior. Actually if voldemort never broke off the expelliarmus vs Arvada kedavra and if Harry would never have gotten to close he would have drowned him. No one outside can save you from an attack like that. If he could have protected Harry he wouldn't have bothered with snake teaching him occlumecy. Dumbledore can make mistakes, however him dieing by that is not a bad showing. Dumbledore not defending Harry from voldemort so occlumecy is not a low showing. You are clearly wrong and you are just like Roberta.
No, that does not make any sense. If Dumbledore had him at his mercy then why knock Harry back. Harry wasn't about to stumble into the bubble. The reason he knocked him back is because Voldemort moved forward thus breaking the water bubble. Dumbledore knew this so he knocked Harry back because he knew an attack was coming. Based off your theory Dumbledore is an idiot and did something completely unnecessary and made a critical error.

So he was unable to protect him. Awesome. Glad you admitted he was unable.

You're the same guy who claimed Palpatine lost his saber against windy on purpose without a shred of proof. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because you're clearly wrong. Voldemort dictated the fight. Dumbledore held the greatest wand ever and was unable to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore also failed to protect and stop the possession of Harry. Dumbledore earned himself a death sentence because he was foolish when dealing with Voldemort dark magic.

It's a shame. I actually wanted your help. So according to you dictating a fight but never gaining the upper hand makes you superior. Actually if voldemort never broke off the expelliarmus vs Arvada kedavra and if Harry would never have gotten to close he would have drowned him. No one outside can save you from an attack like that. If he could have protected Harry he wouldn't have bothered with snake teaching him occlumecy. Dumbledore can make mistakes, however him dieing by that is not a bad showing. Dumbledore not defending Harry from voldemort so occlumecy is not a low showing. You are clearly wrong and you are just like Roberta.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Give me an example of a fact I have turned into an absurd interpretation ?

All you do is flame where is I debate. Try it sometimes you might surprise yourself. Watch and learn.

You concede to Bashar. Great.

LoL, this game of yours again. Let's see, off the top of my head you've claimed Dumbledore is a "coward". Now do some flips and pretend it's not so or different like you always do when proven wrong.

You're just repeating back at me what I just pointed out about you. That's very childish.

More silly lies/flaming. Proved my point again. Grow up 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, this game of yours again. Let's see, off the top of my head you've claimed Dumbledore is a "coward". Now do some flips and pretend it's not so or different like you always do when proven wrong.

You're just repeating back at me what I just pointed out about you. That's very childish.

More silly lies/flaming. Proved my point again. Grow up 👆

when the minister of magic went to arrest him he fled. To me that's an act of cowardice. You may think fleeing against inferior wizards is heroic I don't. There.

Now you prove why you believe Voldemort was a coward.

He handed you your ass. You admitted you were wrong multiple times. It was an epic beating.

Originally posted by quanchi112
when the minister of magic went to arrest him he fled. To me that's an act of cowardice. You may think fleeing against inferior wizards is heroic I don't. There.

He handed you your ass. You admitted you were wrong multiple times. It was an epic beating.

So ignoring context and doing flips, just like I said you would.

More lies/flaming, good job repeatedly proving my point 👆

Grow up, boy.

Originally posted by Robtard
You flame and insult in every thread as a means to detract away from your awful debating and inability to show how your favorite wins.