Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
The DVD used her opinion therefore giving her opinion weight.

No, that is the right spell at the right time with skill and some power. Voldemort's feat was just superior and when you factor in the wand resisted him it's off the charts.

Quit ignoring the context. The elder wand also didn't resisted Albus who used a fire spell. Big whoop.

So if they used mine then it would hold weight? No it wouldn't. Just her opinion that as I've said so many times now is just that. Doesn't hold any weight, doesn't change any outcome, doesn't influence jack.

No it's power. When you take Dumbleodre, who was extremely weakened, then dieing, in a place of Voldmeorts, firestorm blows everything away. However again it's all opinion.

What context? He fled before they showed up, there is no context. So? Dumbleodre was extremely weakend so it more than balances out.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So if they used mine then it would hold weight? No it wouldn't. Just her opinion that as I've said so many times now is just that. Doesn't hold any weight, doesn't change any outcome, doesn't influence jack.

No it's power. When you take Dumbleodre, who was extremely weakened, then dieing, in a place of Voldmeorts, firestorm blows everything away. However again it's all opinion.

What context? He fled before they showed up, there is no context. So? Dumbleodre was extremely weakend so it more than balances out.

If they included your opinion but you're barely literate so the only thing they'd use you for is wiping assholes.

He cast a spell not a powerful spell just a fiery spell. We saw a student create fiendfyre and barely know his ass from his elbow.

He saw them and the minister said, he's back. Your ignorance is appalling. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
If they included your opinion but you're barely literate so the only thing they'd use you for is wiping assholes.

He cast a spell not a powerful spell just a fiery spell. We saw a student create fiendfyre and barely know his ass from his elbow.

He saw them and the minister said, he's back. Your ignorance is appalling. 😂

No it wouldn't cause it's just my opinion and I had no help in making the movies or books. She is realisticly just a conspiracy theorist.

Who are you to determine what's powerful or not. That spell is definitly more than a match for Fiendfyre and we've seen what it can do. That's because he just kept shooting flames out.

Now when was this? After possession or before? Before. That means all the time he spent possessing Harry he could have continued his fight with Dumbledore so thus he fled the battle. Your ignorance is a disgrace to Harry Potter and common sense.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No it wouldn't cause it's just my opinion and I had no help in making the movies or books. She is realisticly just a conspiracy theorist.

Who are you to determine what's powerful or not. That spell is definitly more than a match for Fiendfyre and we've seen what it can do. That's because he just kept shooting flames out.

Now when was this? After possession or before? Before. That means all the time he spent possessing Harry he could have continued his fight with Dumbledore so thus he fled the battle. Your ignorance is a disgrace to Harry Potter and common sense.

Based off what ? Fiendfyre seemed much more powerful than that firespell.

No, he changed tactics because he was there for Harry. He dominated Albus and switched up to attack Potter. Albus was powerless to stop the possession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They put her opinion on there which is why it matters.

Based off what ? Fiendfyre seemed much more powerful than that firespell.

No, he changed tactics because he was there for Harry. He dominated Albus and switched up to attack Potter. Albus was powerless to stop the possession.

Doesn't matter. What matters is her position and place in the movie. Her position is a conspiracy theorist, and her part in the movies production was none.

Based off of how voldemorts was simply a fire snake. Dumbledores consumed an entire cave, and was in fact real fire that could be used to attack as seen by how it warded off inferi, and was able to go under water as fireballs and attack.

No he switched tactics becuase he was going to lose. He had about 3 minutes to continue the fight so if he supposedly "dominated" Dumbledore, why not continue. Why not go ahead and take out your biggest problem. If he would have killed Dumbleodre thre do you know how big an impact that would be? He would have won the whole thing. Not seeing why him not being able to help Harry has anything to do with this.

The three minutes come from https://youtu.be/oQISw4NDHVA which is approximately 2:56

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Doesn't matter. What matters is her position and place in the movie. Her position is a conspiracy theorist, and her part in the movies production was none.

Based off of how voldemorts was simply a fire snake. Dumbledores consumed an entire cave, and was in fact real fire that could be used to attack as seen by how it warded off inferi, and was able to go under water as fireballs and attack.

No he switched tactics becuase he was going to lose. He had about 3 minutes to continue the fight so if he supposedly "dominated" Dumbledore, why not continue. Why not go ahead and take out your biggest problem. If he would have killed Dumbleodre thre do you know how big an impact that would be? He would have won the whole thing. Not seeing why him not being able to help Harry has anything to do with this.

The three minutes come from https://youtu.be/oQISw4NDHVA which is approximately 2:56

Yes, the fire snake was more impressive as well. I agree.

Speculation but prove he was going to lose since that's your claim.

Albus fatally wounded himself like a moron trying to destroy Tom's dark magic.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's in the spcecial features therefore it has weight.

Yes, the fire snake was more impressive as well. I agree.

Speculation but prove he was going to lose since that's your claim.

Albus fatally wounded himself like a moron trying to destroy Tom's dark magic.

😂

You repeating yourself doesn't make it true.

This shows your firessnake did absolutely nothing while firestorm filled up an entire cave. That alone makes it more impressive.

His face after Dumbledore turns the glass into sand. https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI At the very end Voldemort is scared and if he were supposedly superior by your own theory, then he would have no need to be scared and still had about 3 minutes to continue the deul. If he were superior to Dumbledore then he would have finished the deul. Dumbleodre has the better feats. Firestorm pretty much blows everything Voldmeort has done out of the water.

Actually if you actually knew the context of the situation you would know, but since your not a true Harry Potter fan I wouldn't expect you to know.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You repeating yourself doesn't make it true.

This shows your firessnake did absolutely nothing while firestorm filled up an entire cave. That alone makes it more impressive.

His face after Dumbledore turns the glass into sand. https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI At the very end Voldemort is scared and if he were supposedly superior by your own theory, then he would have no need to be scared and still had about 3 minutes to continue the deul. If he were superior to Dumbledore then he would have finished the deul. Dumbleodre has the better feats. Firestorm pretty much blows everything Voldmeort has done out of the water.

Actually if you actually knew the context of the situation you would know, but since your not a true Harry Potter fan I wouldn't expect you to know.

So ? Voldemort showed great control of the fire snake.

Prove he is scared. He wasn't there to kill Albus, kid. Albus showed up. Firestorm wasn't impressive at all when compared to the shield destroying feat.

Says the guy who thinks Voldemort left before the Aurors showed up. Irony.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yiu haven't rebutted my point.

So ? Voldemort showed great control of the fire snake.

Prove he is scared. He wasn't there to kill Albus, kid. Albus showed up. Firestorm wasn't impressive at all when compared to the shield destroying feat.

Says the guy who thinks Voldemort left before the Aurors showed up. Irony.

Actually I have several times. She had no part in making the movie or the books. She is the author of What will Harry Do? The unofficial Guide to payoffs and Possibilities of Book 7. So not only she is a conspiracy theorist she is focused on book 7 and its UNOFFICIAL which means non canon. She had no part in making the movies or books, and her evidence is book based which is illegal, and her evidence isn't solid. She uses the quote "Voldemort will have powers I will never have." That means what it says there are powers Voldemort has that Dumbledore doesn't. Then Mcgonagall says only because your too noble, meaning he could know about them, but doesn't use which is what good guys do. There are powers that Dumbledore has that Voldemort won't have. One of those being love, and different other spells. It works both ways.

Compared to firestorm Dumbledore showed greater, power, reach, and control. He was able to cause an entire cave to be engulfed in fire, and not have Harry or himself be injured. This is is seen by how when the fireballs go underwater it hits the inferi and doesn't even phase Harry. It's definitly more precise. Then we Dumbledore make a hole in the storm while still keeping the storm up, all while weakend and on the verge of dieing.

https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI Once Dumbledore turns all glass into sand.

Well I mean I've read all the books and actually know the context of the movies and books. You don't. Your just an idiot, worthless piece of life, who can't even tie his shoes. Quan that all describes you. Quanchi112 can't debate, see context, or do anything beneficial to others.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually I have several times. She had no part in making the movie or the books. She is the author of What will Harry Do? The unofficial Guide to payoffs and Possibilities of Book 7. So not only she is a conspiracy theorist she is focused on book 7 and its UNOFFICIAL which means non canon. She had no part in making the movies or books, and her evidence is book based which is illegal, and her evidence isn't solid. She uses the quote "Voldemort will have powers I will never have." That means what it says there are powers Voldemort has that Dumbledore doesn't. Then Mcgonagall says only because your too noble, meaning he could know about them, but doesn't use which is what good guys do. There are powers that Dumbledore has that Voldemort won't have. One of those being love, and different other spells. It works both ways.

Compared to firestorm Dumbledore showed greater, power, reach, and control. He was able to cause an entire cave to be engulfed in fire, and not have Harry or himself be injured. This is is seen by how when the fireballs go underwater it hits the inferi and doesn't even phase Harry. It's definitly more precise. Then we Dumbledore make a hole in the storm while still keeping the storm up, all while weakend and on the verge of dieing.

https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI Once Dumbledore turns all glass into sand.

Well I mean I've read all the books and actually know the context of the movies and books. You don't. Your just an idiot, worthless piece of life, who can't even tie his shoes. Quan that all describes you. Quanchi112 can't debate, see context, or do anything beneficial to others.

That wasn't her quote and your own clip says Voldemort is a worthy adversary to both Albus and the entire Harry Potter universe. 😂

It was a fireball so it wasn't a giant snake and is much easier to aim. None of this denotes it's a powerful feat since there's no other comparison but the shield feat there is so it's definitely there.

Your ad hominem attacks won't detract from my points but the hilarious thing is your own clip supported Voldemort and you lied about what was said and didn't understand what the words actually meant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you aren't.

Why would they show Voldemort waving his arm through the water if it meant nothing ?

Says the guy who has never done one.

You make shit up.

Nah, you're a coward.

I am

Again why wouldn't they show his breaking out on his own if he could? Why make him rely on Harry?

Says the guy too scared of Battle Zoning a guy that hasn't even done one 😂

Projecting again?

I'm not the one that ran scared for 7 months

Originally posted by juggerman
I am

Again why wouldn't they show his breaking out on his own if he could? Why make him rely on Harry?

Says the guy too scared of Battle Zoning a guy that hasn't even done one 😂

Projecting again?

I'm not the one that ran scared for 7 months

We saw him break out. We don't see Albus push him back until after he does this. Harry was walking close to him prior to him slashing but he only does so after the slash. Watch the scene.

I value my time. I have already debated this and then some. You haven't done one. You're an afterthought to be honest.

No.

You're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No.

We saw him break out. We don't see Albus push him back until after he does this. Harry was walking close to him prior to him slashing but he only does so after the slash. Watch the scene.

I value my time. I have already debated this and then some. You haven't done one. You're an afterthought to be honest.

No.

You're an idiot.

Yup

Now that's just a lie. We see the water bubble drop out of the air after Albus pushes Harry. If Voldemort could have gotten out on his own they wouldn't have added the bit with Harry

You spend your time failing in these threads everyday. You would actually spend less time doing a BZ cause once that's over then it's done. Unlike this continual mess. And if I'm an after thought why do you keep begging me to return? You are obsessed

Yup

You're a coward

Originally posted by juggerman
Yup

Now that's just a lie. We see the water bubble drop out of the air after Albus pushes Harry. If Voldemort could have gotten out on his own they wouldn't have added the bit with Harry

You spend your time failing in these threads everyday. You would actually spend less time doing a BZ cause once that's over then it's done. Unlike this continual mess. And if I'm an after thought why do you keep begging me to return? You are obsessed

Yup

You're a coward

We see Albus push him back right after Voldemort let slashes not before despite Harry moving around. What does common sense tell you ? Can Voldemort hit Harry across the room ?

I win in these threads but I don't want to waste time over a thread I've already debated for months.

Nah.

This from the guy who has never done one. Irony.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope.

We see Albus push him back right after Voldemort let slashes not before despite Harry moving around. What does common sense tell you ? Can Voldemort hit Harry across the room ?

I win in these threads but I don't want to waste time over a thread I've already debated for months.

Nah.

This from the guy who has never done one. Irony.

Yup

Common sense tells me if Tom could have escaped on his own he would have. Hell he didn't escape at all. The distraction made Albus drop the water altogether. Tommy was very lucky indeed

You're "wasting time" everyday in this thread when you could just have it settled. Seems to me you are afraid

Yup

Your fear pleases me

Originally posted by juggerman
Yup

Common sense tells me if Tom could have escaped on his own he would have. Hell he didn't escape at all. The distraction made Albus drop the water altogether. Tommy was very lucky indeed

You're "wasting time" everyday in this thread when you could just have it settled. Seems to me you are afraid

Yup

Your fear pleases me

We see he did. We see his hand swipe out of the bubble. You act as if Harry being close mattered despite Voldemort's range. It made no sense.

I am right here.

Nah.

Silly since I'm the board antagonist.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No.

We see he did. We see his hand swipe out of the bubble. You act as if Harry being close mattered despite Voldemort's range. It made no sense.

I am right here.

Nah.

Silly since I'm the board antagonist.

Yup

So iyo HP wizards can't affect you from a distance?

Trolling when you could put this to rest once and for all

Yup

Tom proves antagonists can and do fear others.

Originally posted by juggerman
Yup

So iyo HP wizards can't affect you from a distance?

Trolling when you could put this to rest once and for all

Yup

Tom proves antagonists can and do fear others.

Voldemort could take him across the room so why would Albus be upset if he is contained in a water bubble because he walked a few feet closer ?

You are the troll hence another reason I feel you'd be a waste of time.

Nah.

So you believe he displayed great courage here. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope.

Voldemort could take him across the room so why would Albus be upset if he is contained in a water bubble because he walked a few feet closer ?

You are the troll hence another reason I feel you'd be a waste of time.

Nah.

So you believe he displayed great courage here. 🙂

Yup

Line of sight

Yet you choose to waste hours on end going back and forth here? Sounds more like you feel safe here and are unwilling to step outside of your comfort zone. Sad really

Yup

Kinda negated by his insistence on continually picking on(and being defeated by) small children

Originally posted by juggerman
Yup

Line of sight

Yet you choose to waste hours on end going back and forth here? Sounds more like you feel safe here and are unwilling to step outside of your comfort zone. Sad really

Yup

Kinda negated by his insistence on continually picking on(and being defeated by) small children

You said he was trapped in the water bubble so you think Voldemort is looking at Harry and forgetting he's in a water bubble ? 😂

Again, as I said you're a waste of serious discussion. Everything you say is stupid and illogical and unless it'd be a battlezone I'd be interested in immnot wasting my time on you in that venue.

Nah.

Context. You ignore it. movie clips stated he's the antagonist to the entire universe. Cry all over yourself over it.