Originally posted by quanchi112
I have decimated you point by point while you continue to repeat yourself. At this point I doubt you wipe your own *******.I am your king. I agree.
You've decimated nothing. You went. "uh I think he used magic cuz I want him to and uh he probably was getting out own his own cuz I like him." You have nothing but fanboism and useless speculation
Concession accepted Troll King
Originally posted by juggermanYou said Albus blew his own spell because Harry walked to close to his water bubble and then ignored Voldemort standing over him while Albus looked helplessly on.
You've decimated nothing. You went. "uh I think he used magic cuz I want him to and uh he probably was getting out own his own cuz I like him." You have nothing but fanboism and useless speculationConcession accepted Troll King
You are my subject and I am your King.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said Albus blew his own spell because Harry walked to close to his water bubble and then ignored Voldemort standing over him while Albus looked helplessly on.You are my subject and I am your King.
What happened earlier on has no bearing on what happened later. What he did and why he did them are two different things
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Originally posted by juggermanYour reasoning makes no sense. That's the reason you gave and later it falls apart. You make Albus into some buffoon and later on he does nothing for the same reason you claimed he freaked out. See you don't make any sense and abandon your shitty reasoning under scrutiny. You're a shitty debater.
What happened earlier on has no bearing on what happened later. What he did and why he did them are two different thingsConcession accepted
I am your king and master. You said it, loser.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your reasoning makes no sense. That's the reason you gave and later it falls apart. You make Albus into some buffoon and later on he does nothing for the same reason you claimed he freaked out. See you don't make any sense and abandon your shitty reasoning under scrutiny. You're a shitty debater.I am your king and master. You said it, loser.
Wrong again. His sister's death was my reasoning. His duel caused his sister's deat h and this duel could have caused Harry's death which accounts for the extra precaution. Wanna know when he was no longer dueling?????? After Tommy boy got his ass kicked by Harry, he wasn't in a duel. Therefore not the same thing
Concession accepted again
Originally posted by juggermanSo now you bring up another point you just pull out of your ass because I just crushed your last point. He didn't take any extra precaution or any precaution when Voldemort stood over him. He resisted him and Voldemort stood over him with his wand. But you claim having someone in a water bubble through a spell makes him freak out but standing helplessly by just watching it just a-ok for Albus. You're an idiot and I will continue to mock you for the brain dead moron you've been your entire life.
Wrong again. His sister's death was my reasoning. His duel caused his sister's deat h and this duel could have caused Harry's death which accounts for the extra precaution. Wanna know when he was no longer dueling?????? After Tommy boy got his ass kicked by Harry, he wasn't in a duel. Therefore not the same thingConcession accepted again
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove it.He was annoyed because he didn't plan on this but he didn't hesitate to attack Albus. He just realized he was alive and was annoyed but he was there for Harry so he switched tactics. He battled Albus because he stood in the way and after he survived he then went right into Harry. Albus showed up after he arrived, dummy.
iPad. I don't take you seriously and respond in a minute because much brain power isn't required to decimate your points. Nothing in the series comes close to that.
No, it doesn't. You're an idiot. Voldemort looked superior against someone using the best wand in their entire universe.
Albus tried killing him twice. 😂
https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI 0:52(pause it there). See that smile. Now Dumbledore walks in at 1:01(pause it here) Ohh I'm messed up face. Point
proven.
I would liken this to Dooku in AOTC, who when Yoda showed up, he was not annoyed, but kept a straight face. Same with Sidious, when Yoda showed up, all kept straight faces or something not scared faced. You really need to learn the difference between annoyed and scarred. Annoyed is this. http://www.steveblanchard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/annoyed-face.jpg
Now which face does Voldemorts look closest to? Scared. If we took a poll, everyone would say scared.
He attacked Albus becuase he was overconfident. He could have possessed Harry from the start becuase the same situation was in place the moment of possession and when Dumbledore arrived. Dumbledore was there in front of Harry in both scenes wand at the ready. He could have done the same thing from the start and probably succeeded since his friends wouldn't have arrived yet.
I'm on an iPad as well, you don't see me making up excuses. You not taking me seriously in matters involving Harry Potter is a mistake which has evidently cost you.
If Voldemort looked superior than why did he flee his battle? You have not answered that question. Him looking superior is your perception which isn't fact. What is fact is that he was on offense and that's it. Even with that he couldn't win. We've seen having the elder wand can be negated if one is sufficiently skilled. Thanks for saying Voldemort lacks the skill.
In the book Dumbledore also encases Voldemort in a water bubble yet, it's made explicitly clear Dumbledore wasn't relying to kill, so it apples here as it is the same power, cast from the same person, in the same place, all same thing except escape. Will you tell what the second time was?
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He looks annoyed. If you believe he's scared he fought so that just proves he's courageous. 😂
https://youtu.be/URbvT_pkAjI 0:52(pause it there). See that smile. Now Dumbledore walks in at 1:01(pause it here) Ohh I'm messed up face. Point
proven.I would liken this to Dooku in AOTC, who when Yoda showed up, he was not annoyed, but kept a straight face. Same with Sidious, when Yoda showed up, all kept straight faces or something not scared faced. You really need to learn the difference between annoyed and scarred. Annoyed is this. http://www.steveblanchard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/annoyed-face.jpg
Now which face does Voldemorts look closest to? Scared. If we took a poll, everyone would say scared.
He attacked Albus becuase he was overconfident. He could have possessed Harry from the start becuase the same situation was in place the moment of possession and when Dumbledore arrived. Dumbledore was there in front of Harry in both scenes wand at the ready. He could have done the same thing from the start and probably succeeded since his friends wouldn't have arrived yet.
I'm on an iPad as well, you don't see me making up excuses. You not taking me seriously in matters involving Harry Potter is a mistake which has evidently cost you.
If Voldemort looked superior than why did he flee his battle? You have not answered that question. Him looking superior is your perception which isn't fact. What is fact is that he was on offense and that's it. Even with that he couldn't win. We've seen having the elder wand can be negated if one is sufficiently skilled. Thanks for saying Voldemort lacks the skill.
In the book Dumbledore also encases Voldemort in a water bubble yet, it's made explicitly clear Dumbledore wasn't relying to kill, so it apples here as it is the same power, cast from the same person, in the same place, all same thing except escape. Will you tell what the second time was?
Palpatine tried to leave which is a sign of fear. Learn the difference you brain dead failed abortion.
You only speak for yourself, ape.
So you say he's scared now overconfident ? Make up your mind you baboon.
I already explained why over and over again. For ****s sake this is why you're consistently mocked and made apology threads to other posters. You're an idiotic loser.
ThIs is the film and he tries to send the fire back at Voldemort which will kill him, dummy.
Albus lacks the skill with the most powerful wand to defeat Voldemort who doesn't have the advantage of having the most powerful wand in creation. Albus had the advantage and despite his skill with the best wand ever he failed to even dictate the fight against Voldemort.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He looks annoyed. If you believe he's scared he fought so that just proves he's courageous. 😂Palpatine tried to leave which is a sign of fear. Learn the difference you brain dead failed abortion.
You only speak for yourself, ape.
So you say he's scared now overconfident ? Make up your mind you baboon.
I already explained why over and over again. For ****s sake this is why you're consistently mocked and made apology threads to other posters. You're an idiotic loser.
ThIs is the film and he tries to send the fire back at Voldemort which will kill him, dummy.
Albus lacks the skill with the most powerful wand to defeat Voldemort who doesn't have the advantage of having the most powerful wand in creation. Albus had the advantage and despite his skill with the best wand ever he failed to even dictate the fight against Voldemort.
Well we can take the courageous route, just seals my point to being right. Thanks. Now on to being courageous, villains don't tend to be courageous, well realisticly aren't. They are confident. Heroes are courageous. Harry is courageous, Voldemort I believe he was overconfident which is a very common trait between villains. Also his face doesn't show annoyance, his face shows fear, which is what was said about him in sorcerers Stone that he feared Dumbledore.
Ohh no, that was after he was attacked. He at least stayed and took some damage, while Voldemort from the start, was completely scared. You really are an idiot. Uhh my parents love me, and spoil me to the core, so not seeing how I'm a failed abortion, and I've made many academic achievements through my short time on this earth.
Uhh no, I actually speak for several people on this forum who share similar views.
I've stayed consistent with my belief and I said scared. I reread my post and didn't see where I said overconfident. Maybe I missed it. If you could show it that would be nice.m
Your explanation is wrong. That's the thing. It's like saying the sky is blue, just becuase its naturally blue. No there is a scientific reason and factual evidence to back it up. If you keep giving the wrong answer of course people are going to continue to bring it up on you, becuase you haven't rebutted it, and it works. Actually while not admired or anywhere near that level, I'm not mocked, at least I have not seen any. You, you don't have to look far to find a mocking post or anything. Now, when you can explain what this has anything to do with, my debating skills, or this battle please let me know.
Uhhh no, Voldmeort is a powerful wizard. He's not about to be killed by his won fiendfyre.
If I could have a dollar for every time you said best wand/most powerful wand in existence in this thread, I'd be rich. In the books it's made abundantly clear that Dumbleodre wasn't aiming to kill, he was merely aiming to keep Harry safe, get the ministry to learn of Voldemorts return, and to protect himself. Voldmeort even in the books notes that he knows himself Dumbledore isn't trying to kill him. So with that you have a Dumbeldore who was own defense majority of deul, and held his won very well, and once he went on offense, he broke through Voldemorts defenses while Voldemort had to do so much and then couldn't finish the job. So again, your putting to much importance on the elder wand, which if a wizard has the skill can overcome that person. Dumbledore is just more powerful.
Also after more research, Steve Kloves, the screen writer for 7 of the 8 Harry Potter films said in an interview that if he ever wished to express something in the movies, he would say it through hermione. I refer to her dialogue in SS, where she goes on a brief rant about how Dumbledore is Harry's safeguard as how as long as Dumbledore is around he can't be touched, and even goes on to say that with him gone the stone is in danger. He says this in an interview during the Chamber of Secrets. This combined with OOTP gives some pretty hard evidence that Dumbleodre is better by a slight margin.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2I said even if that were the case you'd just prove he overcame his fear to fight him. If anyone fights when they are afraid they are overcoming fear with courage.
Well we can take the courageous route, just seals my point to being right. Thanks. Now on to being courageous, villains don't tend to be courageous, well realisticly aren't. They are confident. Heroes are courageous. Harry is courageous, Voldemort I believe he was overconfident which is a very common trait between villains. Also his face doesn't show annoyance, his face shows fear, which is what was said about him in sorcerers Stone that he feared Dumbledore.Ohh no, that was after he was attacked. He at least stayed and took some damage, while Voldemort from the start, was completely scared. You really are an idiot. Uhh my parents love me, and spoil me to the core, so not seeing how I'm a failed abortion, and I've made many academic achievements through my short time on this earth.
Uhh no, I actually speak for several people on this forum who share similar views.
I've stayed consistent with my belief and I said scared. I reread my post and didn't see where I said overconfident. Maybe I missed it. If you could show it that would be nice.m
Your explanation is wrong. That's the thing. It's like saying the sky is blue, just becuase its naturally blue. No there is a scientific reason and factual evidence to back it up. If you keep giving the wrong answer of course people are going to continue to bring it up on you, becuase you haven't rebutted it, and it works. Actually while not admired or anywhere near that level, I'm not mocked, at least I have not seen any. You, you don't have to look far to find a mocking post or anything. Now, when you can explain what this has anything to do with, my debating skills, or this battle please let me know.
Uhhh no, Voldmeort is a powerful wizard. He's not about to be killed by his won fiendfyre.
If I could have a dollar for every time you said best wand/most powerful wand in existence in this thread, I'd be rich. In the books it's made abundantly clear that Dumbleodre wasn't aiming to kill, he was merely aiming to keep Harry safe, get the ministry to learn of Voldemorts return, and to protect himself. Voldmeort even in the books notes that he knows himself Dumbledore isn't trying to kill him. So with that you have a Dumbeldore who was own defense majority of deul, and held his won very well, and once he went on offense, he broke through Voldemorts defenses while Voldemort had to do so much and then couldn't finish the job. So again, your putting to much importance on the elder wand, which if a wizard has the skill can overcome that person. Dumbledore is just more powerful.
Also after more research, Steve Kloves, the screen writer for 7 of the 8 Harry Potter films said in an interview that if he ever wished to express something in the movies, he would say it through hermione. I refer to her dialogue in SS, where she goes on a brief rant about how Dumbledore is Harry's safeguard as how as long as Dumbledore is around he can't be touched, and even goes on to say that with him gone the stone is in danger. He says this in an interview during the Chamber of Secrets. This combined with OOTP gives some pretty hard evidence that Dumbleodre is better by a slight margin.
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Your parents are ashamed of you and will probably seek to kill you at some point. Sleep with one eye open, homo.
So you think Albus tosses fire back because he knows he can take it ? You're a moron. They both used spells to kill the other. Fire kills, dummy.
Well Harry was possessed right in front of Albus so there goes that theory.
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Elder wand is a huge advantage. Voldemort still dominated him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So now you bring up another point you just pull out of your ass because I just crushed your last point. He didn't take any extra precaution or any precaution when Voldemort stood over him. He resisted him and Voldemort stood over him with his wand. But you claim having someone in a water bubble through a spell makes him freak out but standing helplessly by just watching it just a-ok for Albus. You're an idiot and I will continue to mock you for the brain dead moron you've been your entire life.
You're just upset cuz your point holds no water. Albus pushed Harry back mid fight which freed Tommy boy. That's been my stance all along. You're the one that's been doing a massive amount of speculation and asking me to speculate as well. Albus had no need to jump in between Harry and Tom later on cuz Harry pwnd Tom and had it all under control. If Tom was some uber villain like you claim he would have tried to kill Harry instead of just talking to him and then being discovered 😂
Originally posted by juggermanThat makes no sense that he'd **** up his own spell just because harrybwalked close to Voldemort in a water bubble while he stood by while Voldemort stood over him. Voldemort slashed through and Albus knew he would be free soon so he pushed him back as he knew another attack was coming. He resisted a possession with aid but physically he didn't own Voldemort he was easily disarmed by him. The hero lives you nitwit. He used the Avada Kedavra in deathly Halows two but guess what another horcrux saved him. The hero gets to live you putz. 😂
You're just upset cuz your point holds no water. Albus pushed Harry back mid fight which freed Tommy boy. That's been my stance all along. You're the one that's been doing a massive amount of speculation and asking me to speculate as well. Albus had no need to jump in between Harry and Tom later on cuz Harry pwnd Tom and had it all under control. If Tom was some uber villain like you claim he would have tried to kill Harry instead of just talking to him and then being discovered 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
That makes no sense that he'd **** up his own spell just because harrybwalked close to Voldemort in a water bubble while he stood by while Voldemort stood over him. Voldemort slashed through and Albus knew he would be free soon so he pushed him back as he knew another attack was coming. He resisted a possession with aid but physically he didn't own Voldemort he was easily disarmed by him. The hero lives you nitwit. He used the Avada Kedavra in deathly Halows two but guess what another horcrux saved him. The hero gets to live you putz. 😂
You're just upset cuz Harry schooled your boy so Albus didn't need to get involved. ALbus didn't want Harry hurt hurt or killed as a result of his duel like his sister was. Harry handling his own shit is different since he easily made Tom look foolish.
Originally posted by juggermanHarry was disarmed so quit lying. You're just some idiotic troll who used to say Albus never tried to kill Vildemort until I proved you wrong then the goalposts started moving, idiot. Prove it then. Why would he let Tom stand over Harry ? 😂
You're just upset cuz Harry schooled your boy so Albus didn't need to get involved. ALbus didn't want Harry hurt hurt or killed as a result of his duel like his sister was. Harry handling his own shit is different since he easily made Tom look foolish.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Harry was disarmed so quit lying. You're just some idiotic troll who used to say Albus never tried to kill Vildemort until I proved you wrong then the goalposts started moving, idiot. Prove it then. Why would he let Tom stand over Harry ? 😂
You can't understand simple concepts. Like something that can kill doesn't need to be intended to kill. But since you are extremely slow I stopped trying to explain that to you. Harry was in no danger so Albus didn't need to interfere. It's quite simple really. Harry beat Tom and Tom was in the process of rage quitting. Why jump in? To protect Harry from hurtful words from the loser????? 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said even if that were the case you'd just prove he overcame his fear to fight him. If anyone fights when they are afraid they are overcoming fear with courage.😂
Your parents are ashamed of you and will probably seek to kill you at some point. Sleep with one eye open, homo.
So you think Albus tosses fire back because he knows he can take it ? You're a moron. They both used spells to kill the other. Fire kills, dummy.
Well Harry was possessed right in front of Albus so there goes that theory.
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Elder wand is a huge advantage. Voldemort still dominated him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said even if that were the case you'd just prove he overcame his fear to fight him. If anyone fights when they are afraid they are overcoming fear with courage.😂
Your parents are ashamed of you and will probably seek to kill you at some point. Sleep with one eye open, homo.
So you think Albus tosses fire back because he knows he can take it ? You're a moron. They both used spells to kill the other. Fire kills, dummy.
Well Harry was possessed right in front of Albus so there goes that theory.
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Elder wand is a huge advantage. Voldemort still dominated him.
Not necessarily,myou could fight becuase you hav no other choice.
Yet they spoil me to the core, and they have nothing to be ashamed of.
He was trying to protect Harry and that was the best way to do it was to get the fire away from him. The books say explicitly he wasn't aiming for kill.
Thanks for proving my point. You just agreed that Voldemort could have possesd Harry from the start.
The elder wand isn't the big advantage you think it is. Dumbledore said himself, he was only a shade if any above Grindlewald in skill. Grindlewald had the elder wand and lost, so there goes your theory the elder wand is a huge advantage. It's all up to skill. If Voldemort dominated then why did he flee?
Originally posted by juggermanSending fire back at someone is intended to kill. fFS. So he is in no danger when right next to Voldemort while Albus watches on but trapped in a water bubble Harry's life hangs in the balance. You're about as stupid as IPAs stupid does. He resisted a possession that isn't beating someone, Forrest.
You can't understand simple concepts. Like something that can kill doesn't need to be intended to kill. But since you are extremely slow I stopped trying to explain that to you. Harry was in no danger so Albus didn't need to interfere. It's quite simple really. Harry beat Tom and Tom was in the process of rage quitting. Why jump in? To protect Harry from hurtful words from the loser????? 😂
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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He did have another choice. He left when he wanted to so he could have done to avoid a fight right at the onset. 😂
Not necessarily,myou could fight becuase you hav no other choice.Yet they spoil me to the core, and they have nothing to be ashamed of.
He was trying to protect Harry and that was the best way to do it was to get the fire away from him. The books say explicitly he wasn't aiming for kill.
Thanks for proving my point. You just agreed that Voldemort could have possesd Harry from the start.
The elder wand isn't the big advantage you think it is. Dumbledore said himself, he was only a shade if any above Grindlewald in skill. Grindlewald had the elder wand and lost, so there goes your theory the elder wand is a huge advantage. It's all up to skill. If Voldemort dominated then why did he flee?
Your parents spoil which will hurt you in the long run.
This is the film. Quit quoting the books.
Probably but he chose to try to kill Albus instead.
It is an advantage. Albus couldn't win with it. Sad. Voldemort is the greatest. It is a huge advantage but Albus was better than him without it but unable to do the same with it against Tommy. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
He did have another choice. He left when he wanted to so he could have done to avoid a fight right at the onset. 😂Your parents spoil which will hurt you in the long run.
This is the film. Quit quoting the books.
Probably but he chose to try to kill Albus instead.
It is an advantage. Albus couldn't win with it. Sad. Voldemort is the greatest. It is a huge advantage but Albus was better than him without it but unable to do the same with it against Tommy. 😂
The first one was actaully in response to you saying if you fight and your afraid that shows courage, and I gave an example on why it's not entirely true. Which is exactly why I call your theory bogus since he didn't posees Harry from the jump, which actually showed his original purpose wasn't to posses Harry but to get the prophecy. (Irrelevant)
No it won't, since while I'm spoiled they uphold strong education which has led me to high academic achievements. (Irrelevant)
Films based off books so he's I shall continue to quote the books in ways that do not interfere with the films.
So that eliminates that he was there to posses Harry then, and he failed to do so.
Ok just stay there. An advantage. That's it. Don't upgrade or downgrade from there, just stay there. Dumbledore is actaully the greatest, and you have failed to prove otherwise. A lot has changed in the 35+ years since that battle.
One thing I believe you have overlooked is time. Dumbleodre in his prime, it took him 3 hours to defeat Grindlewald who had possession of the elder wand. This battle lasted less than 3 minutes. In that three minutes we see virtually a stalemate but with a slight nod to Dumbledore since Voldemort fled while Dumbleodre wasn't even going all, out on offense.
