Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know that, dummy. Side arguments start as well.

Voldemort fared better with his wand against Albus and the greatest wand in the Potterverse. He also per your clip was the worthy antagonist to the entire Potterverse.

He wasn't there to duel Albus you nitwit. He was there for Harry. When the ministry showed up he left. Voldemort also had the greatest feat with a wand resisting him. 🙂

Not sure why you call me dumb when you just agreed with what I said. Stay on the topic, and we can have healthier more focused debates on this forum. This goes to everyone including myself since we all do it.

Voldemort was able to hold his own, but wasn't able to win. He never will be able to beat Dumbledore in a fair one on one fight.

So? He dueled him didn't he? Plans changed, and look who was the agressor. Voldemort. He attacked first. He could have simply disapparated from the start and the whole thing would have been avoided.

Him having the greatest feat is your on opinion. For instance I can say Dumbledores firestorm was the best, since he did it while he was severely weakend.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Not sure why you call me dumb when you just agreed with what I said. Stay on the topic, and we can have healthier more focused debates on this forum. This goes to everyone including myself since we all do it.

Voldemort was able to hold his own, but wasn't able to win. He never will be able to beat Dumbledore in a fair one on one fight.

So? He dueled him didn't he? Plans changed, and look who was the agressor. Voldemort. He attacked first. He could have simply disapparated from the start and the whole thing would have been avoided.

Him having the greatest feat is your on opinion. For instance I can say Dumbledores firestorm was the best, since he did it while he was severely weakend.

Voldemort didn't have the greatest wand but Albus did and yet he couldn't win.

Why as he was there for Harry and he changed tactics.

Controlling fire against a non wizard character isn't the same as outdoing hundreds of wizards Magic by himself.

The elder wand resisted him as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said what you claimed I did. You came in acted stupid made something up I stated and then acted like you're imparting wisdom onto me.

Voldemort didn't have the greatest wand but Albus did and yet he couldn't win.

Why as he was there for Harry and he changed tactics.

Controlling fire against a non wizard character isn't the same as outdoing hundreds of wizards Magic by himself.

The elder wand resisted him as well.

That's becuase I did impart wisdom upon you. Your welcome.

If that were true, Voldemort didn't win. So realisticly wouldn't this be a stalemate instead of one winning? However while there is no conclusive winner to that battle, Dumbledore would be the more popular and factually based choice sense, Voldemort fled his battle with Dumbledore to posses Harry, and the excuse that was his original job to do, why not do that from the start. Wasn't anything stopping him from doing so, since Dumbleodre was there in front of Harry when that happened.

Explained above.

If you watched the movie, the sheild was made by 4 people. In the books it was made by hundreds of people. In the movies, it was made by Slughorn, Flitwick, Molly, and possibly Mcgonagall. Then to add on to this, the shield was previously attacked by his entire army of wizards.

Again Firestorm had plenty of circumstances to it as well. You know dieing, being severely weak and was able to do that. So no conclusive way to tell whcih is better. Just ones opinion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That's becuase I did impart wisdom upon you. Your welcome.

If that were true, Voldemort didn't win. So realisticly wouldn't this be a stalemate instead of one winning? However while there is no conclusive winner to that battle, Dumbledore would be the more popular and factually based choice sense, Voldemort fled his battle with Dumbledore to posses Harry, and the excuse that was his original job to do, why not do that from the start. Wasn't anything stopping him from doing so, since Dumbleodre was there in front of Harry when that happened.

Explained above.

If you watched the movie, the sheild was made by 4 people. In the books it was made by hundreds of people. In the movies, it was made by Slughorn, Flitwick, Molly, and possibly Mcgonagall. Then to add on to this, the shield was previously attacked by his entire army of wizards.

Again Firestorm had plenty of circumstances to it as well. You know dieing, being severely weak and was able to do that. So no conclusive way to tell whcih is better. Just ones opinion.

Albus had the best wand and he still had the fight dictated to him so it's in Voldemort's favor. He was never there to combat Albus and used that moment to possess but Albus was powerless to prevent it.

It was still resisted by hundreds of wizards, dummy. It was reinforced over aNd over.

Dying not dieing you idiot. He controlled magical fire. Nothing powerful about it at all comparable to the shield destroying feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you didn't and you agreed with me thus proving juggernaut is a troll.

Albus had the best wand and he still had the fight dictated to him so it's in Voldemort's favor. He was never there to combat Albus and used that moment to possess but Albus was powerless to prevent it.

It was still resisted by hundreds of wizards, dummy. It was reinforced over aNd over.

Dying not dieing you idiot. He controlled magical fire. Nothing powerful about it at all comparable to the shield destroying feat.

Actually you agreed with me but whatever.

The tide of the battle is again opinion but, since Voldemort fled can be seen as a fight Dumbleodre controlled or was the dominant one.

And? That doesn't change the fact that when Voldemort attacked it wasn't at perfect condition, it was already damaged. Really being able to resist all of those wizards is actually a testament to those four witches and wizards who created the shield. Actually no it wasn't. Once the sheild was made, it was made. No reinforcing or anything. If you can show me otherwise your wrong.

Not sure why your upset at a common misspelling of a word. So by that you would say Fiendfyre is not powerful right?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually you agreed with me but whatever.

The tide of the battle is again opinion but, since Voldemort fled can be seen as a fight Dumbleodre controlled or was the dominant one.

And? That doesn't change the fact that when Voldemort attacked it wasn't at perfect condition, it was already damaged. Really being able to resist all of those wizards is actually a testament to those four witches and wizards who created the shield. Actually no it wasn't. Once the sheild was made, it was made. No reinforcing or anything. If you can show me otherwise your wrong.

Not sure why your upset at a common misspelling of a word. So by that you would say Fiendfyre is not powerful right?

No, that's a lie. Voldemort leaving had nothing to do with Albus it was the arrival of others, kid. He outdid hundreds of wizards in moments. The Wizards who made it reinforced it hence they they kept chanting, dummy.

It is powerful just not as powerful as the shield destroying feat, kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said otherwise and you acted as if I did. Untru.

No, that's a lie. Voldemort leaving had nothing to do with Albus it was the arrival of others, kid. He outdid hundreds of wizards in moments. The Wizards who made it reinforced it hence they they kept chanting, dummy.

It is powerful just not as powerful as the shield destroying feat, kid.

I don't act, I go by facts.

Ok let be more clear since you seem to be confused. I refer to voldemorts fleeing of the battle as when he stopped the battle with du,bled ore to posses Harry, in which I already explained with times and the videos of the deul and possession that Voldemort had more than 2 minutes to continue the deul but instead stopped to posses Harry. He destroyed a sheild that was already broken, and we already knew he would break through, since Mcgonagall, from the start, said "that doesn't mean we can't delay him". They said the spell, to the point that the sheild was fin shied. After the shield was finished they stopped. You obviously haven't seen the films moronovich.

According to you, which is just a single opinion from someone's who's credibility on this site and matters involving Harry Potter are frankly mediocre at best.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't act, I go by facts.

Ok let be more clear since you seem to be confused. I refer to voldemorts fleeing of the battle as when he stopped the battle with du,bled ore to posses Harry, in which I already explained with times and the videos of the deul and possession that Voldemort had more than 2 minutes to continue the deul but instead stopped to posses Harry. He destroyed a sheild that was already broken, and we already knew he would break through, since Mcgonagall, from the start, said "that doesn't mean we can't delay him". They said the spell, to the point that the sheild was fin shied. After the shield was finished they stopped. You obviously haven't seen the films moronovich.

According to you, which is just a single opinion from someone's who's credibility on this site and matters involving Harry Potter are frankly mediocre at best.

He was not there to battle Albus and realized his time was short so he went after Harry which is why he was there. Voldemort didn't know he had two more minutes he simply went after Harry. It wasn't broken until Voldemort broke it with a wand resisting him. I did see it but we see how powerful the dark lord is in comparison to hundreds of wizards, dumbass.

It was included in the films, dummy. Cry more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You do not understand the facts.

He was not there to battle Albus and realized his time was short so he went after Harry which is why he was there. Voldemort didn't know he had two more minutes he simply went after Harry. It wasn't broken until Voldemort broke it with a wand resisting him. I did see it but we see how powerful the dark lord is in comparison to hundreds of wizards, dumbass.

It was included in the films, dummy. Cry more.

Uhhh actually I do, having read the books, and watched the movies very thoroughly and other various Harry Potter media, I have a much better grasp of Harry Potter than you ever will.

He didn't know his time was short. Notice when the ministry showed up he was dead shocked. It took Albus telling him the aurors would be there and he responded by saying "By which time I shall be gone, and you...shall be dead." He believed he would have beaten Albus before they showed up, but was drastically wrong. That's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. HE DIDNT KNOW HE HAD TWO MORE MINUTES?? That doesn't matter. If he really wanted to posses Harry, he would have done that from the start instead of fighting Dumbledore. Also that shows he was either inferior to or was equal to Dumbledore since he still had so much time, yet choose to posses Harry instead of finishing the deul.

https://youtu.be/X34HPAxlyd8 Saying it's not broken is just flat out retarded. Can agree and disagree. He did in fact bring the down the shield, but not by himself since it was already damaged.

Again opinion that I've already explained in a post dedicated to that, why it's just her opinion and not something that can be used in debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope.

The old man later died. Voldemort looked superior anyways.

Nah.

Nah.

Voldemort looked very inferior being trapped in the bubble and needing to be saved by clumsy Harry

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you didn't and you agreed with me thus proving juggernaut is a troll.

Juggerman not Juggernaut dum dum. And we all know you are the Troll King

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Uhhh actually I do, having read the books, and watched the movies very thoroughly and other various Harry Potter media, I have a much better grasp of Harry Potter than you ever will.

He didn't know his time was short. Notice when the ministry showed up he was dead shocked. It took Albus telling him the aurors would be there and he responded by saying "By which time I shall be gone, and you...shall be dead." He believed he would have beaten Albus before they showed up, but was drastically wrong. That's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. HE DIDNT KNOW HE HAD TWO MORE MINUTES?? That doesn't matter. If he really wanted to posses Harry, he would have done that from the start instead of fighting Dumbledore. Also that shows he was either inferior to or was equal to Dumbledore since he still had so much time, yet choose to posses Harry instead of finishing the deul.

https://youtu.be/X34HPAxlyd8 Saying it's not broken is just flat out retarded. Can agree and disagree. He did in fact bring the down the shield, but not by himself since it was already damaged.

Again opinion that I've already explained in a post dedicated to that, why it's just her opinion and not something that can be used in debate.

He did believe he would have beaten him but when Albus survived the glass he changed tactics and went after Harry which was always his ultimate goal. I have explained this to you many times, dummy.

He outside hundreds of wizards in moments like I said. Greatest feat of power in the films.

A weighted opinion along with my evidence making me case a slam dunk.

Originally posted by juggerman
Voldemort looked very inferior being trapped in the bubble and needing to be saved by clumsy Harry

Juggerman not Juggernaut dum dum. And we all know you are the Troll King

You aren't a juggernaut that's for sure. I am the King here you peasant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation which I have decimated by your he didn't want Harry close to him but later he stood by when Voldemort was standing over him.

You aren't a juggernaut that's for sure. I am the King here you peasant.

You're whole point is speculation at best. You just like making stuff up

You are King Troll. Glad you admit it 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
You're whole point is speculation at best. You just like making stuff up

You are King Troll. Glad you admit it 👆

I am the king but I am glad you acknowledge me as king call me whatever else you'd like, pansy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My theory makes sense but yours has been decimated at every turn. Every reason you said has been rover false during their fight.

I am the king but I am glad you acknowledge me as king call me whatever else you'd like, pansy.

Your theory is ass just like all your arguments. Tom was at Albus' mercy. Canon

You are the King of Trolls. No one will deny you your rightful place 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Completely untrue. You ca t differentiate the two and u have the far better grasp of the cinematic universe which is different. Look at Voldemort's eyes in the films and compare them to the books, kiddo. 😂

He did believe he would have beaten him but when Albus survived the glass he changed tactics and went after Harry which was always his ultimate goal. I have explained this to you many times, dummy.

He outside hundreds of wizards in moments like I said. Greatest feat of power in the films.

A weighted opinion along with my evidence making me case a slam dunk.

Uhh it's can't not ca t. Yea Voldemorts shows he's afraid in both. Thanks for proving my point and my superiority. 😂

When Dumbledore first arrived, Voldemorts smile after having disamred Harry and mocked him, disappeared. Once he saw Dumbledore was still alive after the glass attack, he has the ohh I'm f***** face. And until you can answer this question you are the dummy. If his original purpose was to take down Harry, then why battle Dumbledore? He could have possesd Harry when Dumbledore showed up since he did posses Harry when Dumbledore was standing in front of Harry. Ohh and yea his purpose there was to get the prophecy, that's what is said in the books and that's what follows through in the movies.

Outdid, not outside. Your slipping Quan. A damaged shield. Can you prove that? Can you prove its the greatest feat in the Potter universe?

It's not weighted since she has no involvement in making the films or books. There is no evidence backing Voldemort, while Voldemort fleeing his battle with Dumbleodre shows Dumbledore is superior, and also considering Dumbledore wasn't trying to kill him, so that's a Dumbledore not aiming for kill still showed he is superior.

Originally posted by juggerman
Your theory is ass just like all your arguments. Tom was at Albus' mercy. Canon

You are the King of Trolls. No one will deny you your rightful place 😂

I am your king. I agree.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Uhh it's can't not ca t. Yea Voldemorts shows he's afraid in both. Thanks for proving my point and my superiority. 😂

When Dumbledore first arrived, Voldemorts smile after having disamred Harry and mocked him, disappeared. Once he saw Dumbledore was still alive after the glass attack, he has the ohh I'm f***** face. And until you can answer this question you are the dummy. If his original purpose was to take down Harry, then why battle Dumbledore? He could have possesd Harry when Dumbledore showed up since he did posses Harry when Dumbledore was standing in front of Harry. Ohh and yea his purpose there was to get the prophecy, that's what is said in the books and that's what follows through in the movies.

Outdid, not outside. Your slipping Quan. A damaged shield. Can you prove that? Can you prove its the greatest feat in the Potter universe?

It's not weighted since she has no involvement in making the films or books. There is no evidence backing Voldemort, while Voldemort fleeing his battle with Dumbleodre shows Dumbledore is superior, and also considering Dumbledore wasn't trying to kill him, so that's a Dumbledore not aiming for kill still showed he is superior.

He was annoyed because he didn't plan on this but he didn't hesitate to attack Albus. He just realized he was alive and was annoyed but he was there for Harry so he switched tactics. He battled Albus because he stood in the way and after he survived he then went right into Harry. Albus showed up after he arrived, dummy.

iPad. I don't take you seriously and respond in a minute because much brain power isn't required to decimate your points. Nothing in the series comes close to that.

No, it doesn't. You're an idiot. Voldemort looked superior against someone using the best wand in their entire universe.

Albus tried killing him twice. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove it troll.

I am your king. I agree.

You have yet to prove a single point.

I'm very happy you've accepted your place as the Troll King. Good job young man👆

Originally posted by juggerman
You have yet to prove a single point.

I'm very happy you've accepted your place as the Troll King. Good job young man👆

I am your king. I agree.