Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
That opinion is on the DVD so yes it does carry weight. Films and special features regarding the film are fair game.

No, it isn't since his feats are flat out superior. Your low intelligence thinking a firecracker is more powerful than an atomic bomb just shows you're slow.

Even if I conceded that the opinion carried weight, out of a hundred it holds 0.1 out of a hundred of weight, then you take the fact it's backed by virtually nothing when you take the fact it's proof comes from the books which are illegal.

By your wording you must have obvious proof that Firestorm(taking in all context) and his shield shattering charm(taking in all context) is superior. Why don't you share with us, the specific evidence you must have that Voldemorts spell is superior to firestorm. FIRESTORM IS A FIRECRACKER AND THE SHILED THING, IS A FREAKING ATOMIC BOMB. The level of which you downplay Dumbeldore and wank Voldemort is extremely fascinating. You call arguably the most powerful display of magic seen, and relate it to a mere firecracker, and take Voldemorts shield breaking charm which can be challenged by AVADA KEDAVRA, EXPELLIARMUS, FIRESTROM, FIENDFYRE, AND ANY OTHER STREAM LIKE OR WIDE SPELL LIKE THE ONES PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Even if I conceded that the opinion carried weight, out of a hundred it holds 0.1 out of a hundred of weight, then you take the fact it's backed by virtually nothing when you take the fact it's proof comes from the books which are illegal.

By your wording you must have obvious proof that Firestorm(taking in all context) and his shield shattering charm(taking in all context) is superior. Why don't you share with us, the specific evidence you must have that Voldemorts spell is superior to firestorm. FIRESTORM IS A FIRECRACKER AND THE SHILED THING, IS A FREAKING ATOMIC BOMB. The level of which you downplay Dumbeldore and wank Voldemort is extremely fascinating. You call arguably the most powerful display of magic seen, and relate it to a mere firecracker, and take Voldemorts shield breaking charm which can be challenged by AVADA KEDAVRA, EXPELLIARMUS, FIRESTROM, FIENDFYRE, AND ANY OTHER STREAM LIKE OR WIDE SPELL LIKE THE ONES PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

The damage the shield could take as opposed to the inferi which were weak fleshy creatures. Obvious is obvious. Harry knocked them around. Direct contact with the shield disintegrated bodies. 💃

Originally posted by juggerman
Albus entered and made no move to attack. Tommy engaged Albus and failed to finish what he started. Weak

Tommy ran from the fight he started with Albus. Coward

Tom was killed by a child following a dead guy's plan 😂

He changed tactics as he wasn't there to kill Albus.

The combined wizards aided him and the wand didn't obey Voldemort. Context. Albus was already dead. 😂

wow. same two posters going at it for three years on here.

anyway, khan easily crushes both these guys skulls. or even stabs them with an orca tooth

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you agree it carries weight thus you concede the point. The opinion was based off the films.

The damage the shield could take as opposed to the inferi which were weak fleshy creatures. Obvious is obvious. Harry knocked them around. Direct contact with the shield disintegrated bodies. 💃

if you weren't so desperate, you would notice that i said IF i conceded. IF. Actually it was based on the books. She quoted directly from Harry Potter and the sorcerrrers stone, page 12 i believe. She said"Dumbledore himself said that Voldemort would have powers he would never have." So no her opinion was based off the books.

Again this doesn't explain your lowballing of Dumbledore, and wanking of Voldemort. Also you continuously ignore the fact the shield was already damaged. and that using the elder wand isn't a big feat. You can use a wand no matter what it just won't be to its fullest capabilities. Dumbledore on the other hand was severely weakened, and had to get up from his resting position and create a storm that not only created balls of fire powerful enough to hit the inferi, but engulf the whole cave, then keep it going without and words or movements, and put a whole in the middle without a wand.Voldemort took a shield down that was already broken while wielding the ELDER WAND.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
if you weren't so desperate, you would notice that i said IF i conceded. IF. Actually it was based on the books. She quoted directly from Harry Potter and the sorcerrrers stone, page 12 i believe. She said"Dumbledore himself said that Voldemort would have powers he would never have." So no her opinion was based off the books.

Again this doesn't explain your lowballing of Dumbledore, and wanking of Voldemort. Also you continuously ignore the fact the shield was already damaged. and that using the elder wand isn't a big feat. You can use a wand no matter what it just won't be to its fullest capabilities. Dumbledore on the other hand was severely weakened, and had to get up from his resting position and create a storm that not only created balls of fire powerful enough to hit the inferi, but engulf the whole cave, then keep it going without and words or movements, and put a whole in the middle without a wand.Voldemort took a shield down that was already broken while wielding the ELDER WAND.

We see hundreds of wizards weren't powerful enough to do so but Tom was in moments. That doesn't mean it was powerful that just means it was difficult to do. Learn what words mean. Voldemort's wand resisted him and he still pulled it off. Tom ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe Albus wasn't there to save Harry and would have stood by. This is why you're a troll you say stupid things.

He changed tactics as he wasn't there to kill Albus.

The combined wizards aided him and the wand didn't obey Voldemort. Context. Albus was already dead. 😂

Strawman. Albus showed up and gave Tom some good advice. Tom then got angry and attacked Albus with no provocation and the fled in cowardice when he saw he couldn't win

He could have tried to possess Harry as soon as Albus showed up. He chose to try to kill him and then chose to run like a baby back b!tch

Cuz no wizards helped Tom right? 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
Strawman. Albus showed up and gave Tom some good advice. Tom then got angry and attacked Albus with no provocation and the fled in cowardice when he saw he couldn't win

He could have tried to possess Harry as soon as Albus showed up. He chose to try to kill him and then chose to run like a baby back b!tch

Cuz no wizards helped Tom right? 😂

He believed he would kill him. Since Albus survived and his time was short he went for Harry. Your debating is pathetic.

When did wizards help Voldemort in combat ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a straw man he was there to save Harry. I guess Bellatrix just left and didn't think anything was going to happen just some friendly advice.

He believed he would kill him. Since Albus survived and his time was short he went for Harry. Your debating is pathetic.

When did wizards help Voldemort in combat ?

Bellatrix was a coward just like Tommy

He was wrong and failed to kill Albus even tho it was his intent. Then he ran. Cowardice

So now it's just in combat? Harry tried to help Voldemort in combat and he ignored the warnings like a fool

Originally posted by juggerman
Bellatrix was a coward just like Tommy

He was wrong and failed to kill Albus even tho it was his intent. Then he ran. Cowardice

So now it's just in combat? Harry tried to help Voldemort in combat and he ignored the warnings like a fool

Incorrect. He didn't leave the area until the ministry showed.

The point is Voldemort wanted no help in killing Harry. He was even offered help and refused it. Quit being a troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Her opinion is in the films features so it carries more eight and addresses the film versions. You can't change that.

We see hundreds of wizards weren't powerful enough to do so but Tom was in moments. That doesn't mean it was powerful that just means it was difficult to do. Learn what words mean. Voldemort's wand resisted him and he still pulled it off. Tom ftw.

Her being in the special features, based on who she is and what she represents, her opinion holds just as much weight as me. Yours is less since you haven't read the books. Her opinion holds just as much as mine. She had no part in creating the films or books, and her opinion was based off the books which makes it just a sentence since the proof has been shown to be illegal.

Once those hundreds of wizards damaged the shield to a pretty severe degree. Glad we agree. Actually I specialize in word play. Voldemort wielded the most powerful wand in existence. Whether it resisted him or not which it did, doesn't change the fact of the power it was able to exert. It wasn't at its most powerful, but powerful nonetheless.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Her being in the special features, based on who she is and what she represents, her opinion holds just as much weight as me. Yours is less since you haven't read the books. Her opinion holds just as much as mine. She had no part in creating the films or books, and her opinion was based off the books which makes it just a sentence since the proof has been shown to be illegal.

Once those hundreds of wizards damaged the shield to a pretty severe degree. Glad we agree. Actually I specialize in word play. Voldemort wielded the most powerful wand in existence. Whether it resisted him or not which it did, doesn't change the fact of the power it was able to exert. It wasn't at its most powerful, but powerful nonetheless.

Thry didn't destroy it in moments so we have hundreds of wizards unable to do what Voldemort did with a wand resisting him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She knew they were going to duel. Your whole point of Albus was there just for friendly advice is absurd.

Incorrect. He didn't leave the area until the ministry showed.

The point is Voldemort wanted no help in killing Harry. He was even offered help and refused it. Quit being a troll.

Right. She knew Tom would get all butthurt and try to kill the messenger. She probably knew he'd fail and run too

Fled like a baby back b!tch

Cuz he's an idiot. He failed several times and didn't learn from his multiple failures

Originally posted by juggerman
Right. She knew Tom would get all butthurt and try to kill the messenger. She probably knew he'd fail and run too

Fled like a baby back b!tch

Cuz he's an idiot. He failed several times and didn't learn from his multiple failures

Your posts can't be taken seriously.

Albus died. Tom rose to power. Albus was still dead. He didn't prevent Tom from rising to power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So now you say something illogical. It's what you do in debates.

Your posts can't be taken seriously.

Albus died. Tom rose to power. Albus was still dead. He didn't prevent Tom from rising to power.

Irony

Irony

Tom couldn't rise until after Albus passed. Says a lot about who was boss hog

Originally posted by juggerman
Irony

Irony

Tom couldn't rise until after Albus passed. Says a lot about who was boss hog

Albus died. Tom made sure of that. Albus just submitted to his will. That's as weak as it gets.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What have I said that is illogical ?

Albus died. Tom made sure of that. Albus just submitted to his will. That's as weak as it gets.

Everything you say here is biased and illogical

Tom didn't make sure of anything. The trap wasn't set for anyone in particular. But Albus sure made sure Tom fell hard.

Originally posted by juggerman
Everything you say here is biased and illogical

Tom didn't make sure of anything. The trap wasn't set for anyone in particular. But Albus sure made sure Tom fell hard.

Albus was dead. Tom's own dark magic sealed Albus' death. Tom rose to power and Albus died.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name something specifically. Quit speaking like a troll in general, vague statements.

Albus was dead. Tom's own dark magic sealed Albus' death. Tom rose to power and Albus died.

You claiming Tom quitting against Albus doesn't count as a loss but Harry leaving the graveyard does. Biased

Tom needed Albus out of the way to assume power. Very telling indeed.

Originally posted by juggerman
You claiming Tom quitting against Albus doesn't count as a loss but Harry leaving the graveyard does. Biased

Tom needed Albus out of the way to assume power. Very telling indeed.

Albus was killed. Dead. Gone. It occurred. It wasn't hard. Voldemort rose to power and Albus fell.