Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
Albus always got in the middle of he and Harry. He didn't leave the area just changed the focus. Harry fled the scene in a one on one fight. Tom wouldn't let anyone interfere.

Albus was killed. Dead. Gone. It occurred. It wasn't hard. Voldemort rose to power and Albus fell.

Even if Harry won in the graveyard and killed Tom, the rest wouldn't let him live. He knew who several of them were and they saw Tom come back once already. Harry was against insurmountable odds but oh no let's pretend Tom was worse off!!!!

Tom rose to power AFTER Albus died. He couldn't while he was alive. Tells us who had more power

Originally posted by juggerman
Even if Harry won in the graveyard and killed Tom, the rest wouldn't let him live. He knew who several of them were and they saw Tom come back once already. Harry was against insurmountable odds but oh no let's pretend Tom was worse off!!!!

Tom rose to power AFTER Albus died. He couldn't while he was alive. Tells us who had more power

Tom had Albus killed. Sorry Albus couldn't live to see it he was busy dying. Albus never rose to power. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is immaterial as to Voldemort vs. Harry. Voldemort wouldn't let anyone interfere whereas Harry fled and let others interfere for him. Harry was the coward.

Tom had Albus killed. Sorry Albus couldn't live to see it he was busy dying. Albus never rose to power. 😂

It's actually very relevant. Harry had every reason to believe he would have been attacked en mass had he stuck around so he fled. Tom had every reason to believe he would have been attacked en mass had he stuck around so he fled. Yet to you only Harry is a coward and Tom is smart. Pretty biased

Albus had the power and Tom couldn't get it until he lucked out and Albus died. Says a lot that Tom had to wait his turn like a child and couldn't just usurp Albus. But I guess that makes sense since Albus >>> Tommy

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because her opinion was included yours wasn't. Prove her opinion was based off the books only since that's your claim.

Thry didn't destroy it in moments so we have hundreds of wizards unable to do what Voldemort did with a wand resisting him.

http://genius.com/2484350/Jk-rowling-harry-potter-and-the-philosophers-stone-chap-1-excerpt/You-flatter-me-said-dumbledore-calmly-voldemort-had-powers-i-will-never-have-only-because-youre-too-well-noble-to-use-them-its-lucky-its-dark-i-havent-blushed-so-much-since-madam-pomfrey-told-me-she-liked-my-new-earmuffs
This is the line.

This was said by Janet Scott Batchler in the special features. I'm not sure if I could get that up since its special features but you can go back and watch it is at the 36:06-36:16 there she says that paraphrasing.

Again, it was already weakened so it's not like he took down a fully powered shield.

Originally posted by juggerman
It's actually very relevant. Harry had every reason to believe he would have been attacked en mass had he stuck around so he fled. Tom had every reason to believe he would have been attacked en mass had he stuck around so he fled. Yet to you only Harry is a coward and Tom is smart. Pretty biased

Albus had the power and Tom couldn't get it until he lucked out and Albus died. Says a lot that Tom had to wait his turn like a child and couldn't just usurp Albus. But I guess that makes sense since Albus >>> Tommy

Albus was just someone who opposed him. Taken out rather easily and then he sacked the ministry.

Voldemort the antagonist to Albus and the Harry Potter fictional world.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
http://genius.com/2484350/Jk-rowling-harry-potter-and-the-philosophers-stone-chap-1-excerpt/You-flatter-me-said-dumbledore-calmly-voldemort-had-powers-i-will-never-have-only-because-youre-too-well-noble-to-use-them-its-lucky-its-dark-i-havent-blushed-so-much-since-madam-pomfrey-told-me-she-liked-my-new-earmuffs
This is the line.

This was said by Janet Scott Batchler in the special features. I'm not sure if I could get that up since its special features but you can go back and watch it is at the 36:06-36:16 there she says that paraphrasing.

Again, it was already weakened so it's not like he took down a fully powered shield.

Still greater than fire taking out inferi. Best feat in the films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So where in this video does this back your claim ?

Still greater than fire taking out inferi. Best feat in the films.

You asked me to prove that she got her proof from the books. This is a link to a website that she is the quote she paraphrased in the commentary. So this proves she gets her information from the book thus making it just her opinion, with no proof do to the proof she has is illegal.

Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are lying. There were situations in which Albus did attack when it was just Voldemort and Harry. He wouldn't let Bellatrix interfere so the opposite was true. Harry was a coward.

Albus was just someone who opposed him. Taken out rather easily and then he sacked the ministry.

Voldemort the antagonist to Albus and the Harry Potter fictional world.

What did I lie about? Everything I've said is accurate

Albus was top dog. Tom needed him out of the way before he could rise up. He couldn't take control from him. That's real talk

And Tom lost multiple times, some in hilarious fashion 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You asked me to prove that she got her proof from the books. This is a link to a website that she is the quote she paraphrased in the commentary. So this proves she gets her information from the book thus making it just her opinion, with no proof do to the proof she has is illegal.

Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do think she is familiar but she spoke on the movies. You'd have to prove her opinion in that piece was just related to the books and not the films.

She spoke on the movies yes, and when she said that Voldemort was the greatest wizard of the age, her evidence was and I quote "Dumbledore said, Vooldemort had powers he didn't". Then if you notice http://genius.com/2484350/Jk-rowling-harry-potter-and-the-philosophers-stone-chap-1-excerpt/You-flatter-me-said-dumbledore-calmly-voldemort-had-powers-i-will-never-have-only-because-youre-too-well-noble-to-use-them-its-lucky-its-dark-i-havent-blushed-so-much-since-madam-pomfrey-told-me-she-liked-my-new-earmuffs

Here in the link above, shows the quote ofmDumbleodremsaying that. So it shows her evidence came from the books. Then if you rewatch OOTP Dumbledore never says anything like that, and you can't use the next 3 movies becuase they weren't created at that time this was made so she could only focus on the movies up to that point, and Dumbleodre never says that line in the movies, but does in chapter one page 12 of the sorcerrs stone.

Originally posted by juggerman
What did I lie about? Everything I've said is accurate

Albus was top dog. Tom needed him out of the way before he could rise up. He couldn't take control from him. That's real talk

And Tom lost multiple times, some in hilarious fashion 😂

No, Voldemort was. Albus was taken out as was the ministry. Ministry was harder to sack than old Albus who already caused his own death due to stupidity.
context.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
She spoke on the movies yes, and when she said that Voldemort was the greatest wizard of the age, her evidence was and I quote "Dumbledore said, Vooldemort had powers he didn't". Then if you notice http://genius.com/2484350/Jk-rowling-harry-potter-and-the-philosophers-stone-chap-1-excerpt/You-flatter-me-said-dumbledore-calmly-voldemort-had-powers-i-will-never-have-only-because-youre-too-well-noble-to-use-them-its-lucky-its-dark-i-havent-blushed-so-much-since-madam-pomfrey-told-me-she-liked-my-new-earmuffs

Here in the link above, shows the quote ofmDumbleodremsaying that. So it shows her evidence came from the books. Then if you rewatch OOTP Dumbledore never says anything like that, and you can't use the next 3 movies becuase they weren't created at that time this was made so she could only focus on the movies up to that point, and Dumbleodre never says that line in the movies, but does in chapter one page 12 of the sorcerrs stone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did have powers Albus didn't. Thanks for buffering my case and her opinion is still on the movie features. I guess even the books support this. Awesome.

You know the same case can be made the other way around. Dumbleodre has powers Voldemort doesn't, being alive longer, and also the power of love. So with that you admit that she can't be used to her opinion bi no solely an opinion with no legal backing. Glad you agree so with that you are no back to step one. Voldemort is only stronger in your mind, while facts shoe a Dumbleodre is the more powerful of the two.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You know the same case can be made the other way around. Dumbleodre has powers Voldemort doesn't, being alive longer, and also the power of love. So with that you admit that she can't be used to her opinion bi no solely an opinion with no legal backing. Glad you agree so with that you are no back to step one. Voldemort is only stronger in your mind, while facts shoe a Dumbleodre is the more powerful of the two.

Her opinion is on the movie features and since she also is knowledgeable due to the books both supper this conclusion according to her. This really blew up in your face.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Being alive longer has nothing to do with greater power. Think before you say such stupid things. Who stated Dumbledore was more powerful than Voldemort ?

Her opinion is on the movie features and since she also is knowledgeable due to the books both supper this conclusion according to her. This really blew up in your face.

Perhaps I didn't make this clear. By being alive longer you have the ability to learn more about magic and in fact make your own spells. Who has factually said Voldemort is more powerful than Dumbledore?

So? Her opinion is just that an opinion. Mine holds the same weight since her evidence is based off the books as I've proven, and we have both read the books, so realisticly all she has is an opinion with no weight. No it hasn't, it in fact proved my point at special features you boast so much has failed.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Perhaps I didn't make this clear. By being alive longer you have the ability to learn more about magic and in fact make your own spells. Who has factually said Voldemort is more powerful than Dumbledore?

So? Her opinion is just that an opinion. Mine holds the same weight since her evidence is based off the books as I've proven, and we have both read the books, so realisticly all she has is an opinion with no weight. No it hasn't, it in fact proved my point at special features you boast so much has failed.

No, yours isn't included in the films extra features. That's why.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats, implied through statements, etc.

No, yours isn't included in the films extra features. That's why.

So in other words nothing factual only your opinion, good.

Neither is yours. The lady just said her opinion that we now know has no such weight due to her evidence being book based.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So in other words nothing factual only your opinion, good.

Neither is yours. The lady just said her opinion that we now know has no such weight due to her evidence being book based.

It was on the DVD features thus it does have weight. Yours wasn't. Period.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it wasn't. You speculated without proof and dodged the issue Voldemort accepted no help while Harry always did.

No, Voldemort was. Albus was taken out as was the ministry. Ministry was harder to sack than old Albus who already caused his own death due to stupidity.
context.

I didn't dodge anything. Tom was stupid for no accepting help and he lost. Harry accepted help and won. Multiple times. Kinda shows Tom was just a dumbass

Tom didn't sack the Ministry himself and he didn't kill Albus. Others did the work for him. Most things he tried on his own he failed at horribly

Originally posted by juggerman
I didn't dodge anything. Tom was stupid for no accepting help and he lost. Harry accepted help and won. Multiple times. Kinda shows Tom was just a dumbass

Tom didn't sack the Ministry himself and he didn't kill Albus. Others did the work for him. Most things he tried on his own he failed at horribly

Context. Tom was his superior but he relied on help to survive. Tom is on another level and Harry never engaged him in a fair fight.

Tom's dark magic already sealed the deal. Why kill him if he didn't have to ? He's the boss, kid. Presidents don't assassinate enemies. Albus went down as did the ministry. Albus died. Weak.