Originally posted by RobtardYou're such a drama queen. He was originally dead and it was then retconned to omg he's alive. We all knew he wasn't going to stay dead, nerd. In closing you're a nerd and Bane and Doomsday win.
Derp.You said Superman was "killed" and that's why Doomsday is Superman's arch nemeis. That narrow logic aside, how is someone killed when they were still technically alive. You're just terrible at this debate stuff. Did you even actually read those comics? Seems you didn't.
Originally posted by RobtardThis from the Kingdom Come Guy. You're a tard amongst tards.
"Nerd", now there's an insult.PS, just ask and I'll email you the comics, so you can work to longer be an ignorant.
Originally posted by -Pr-I am the only one being honest here.
Okay, change the subject why don't you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am being honest. I don't think the recurring villain is the ultimate challenge. They have been beaten too many times to be considered the big baddie. They just scheme it up.
The big baddie is the one you can never truly defeat. Your nemesis. Skeletor, Joker, Luthor; they're the biggest and baddest for a reason.
The only other I can think of is King Hiss. And wasn't he brought back by Skeletor's machinations? I've never seen the original show, only the remake.(and not that god awful future version either...the good one).
And I'm with PR. Darkseid is above Lex in many ways, but he's a problem that more often than not, Superman can punch in the face until he goes away for a while. He doesn't have that luxury with Lex. Most of the time while he knows Lex is pure evil, he wouldn't be able to live with himself if he caved his face in like he does with Sir New God Craggly Face.
Superman isn't willing to lethally handle Darkseid because Darkseid is super powerful.
He is willing to do it because Darkseid is one of the most horribly evil and dangerous threats to existence, a godlike being whom won't stop until all individuality is destroyed, and the Multiverse is an extension of himself.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Skeletor is explicitly not the biggest baddy in the He-Man series though, lol.And in the case of Superman, I'd argue Darkseid is his antithesis and ultimate challenge in a way beyond Lex.
I disagree, tbh, at least where Darkseid is concerned. He's up there, but I wouldn't consider him to be Superman's nemesis. I actually used to think he was too, but I've had to revisit that.
And when I mentioned Skeletor, I was speaking from watching the animated show. I've never read the comics much.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman isn't willing to lethally handle Darkseid because Darkseid is super powerful.He is willing to do it because Darkseid is one of the most horribly evil and dangerous threats to existence, a godlike being whom won't stop until all individuality is destroyed, and the Multiverse is an extension of himself.
Darkseid is more of a chess player than that. He likes to mess with Superman psychologically. The one time he did try to wipe everything out was Final Crisis, and thankfully they stopped him.
Originally posted by KingD19
Hasn't Luthor at several points done something on that scale?
There were times when he went too far, yeah.
Originally posted by -Pr-They defeat them every time. They spare them and can keep them around because they own them. Luthor is owned by Superman. Just because he won't kill him that's Superman's moronic fault not like he can't. Doomsday is someone he needs help with because he's a much bigger challenge. Luthor is just a recurring challenge.
The big baddie is the one you can never truly defeat. Your nemesis. Skeletor, Joker, Luthor; they're the biggest and baddest for a reason.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They defeat them every time. They spare them and can keep them around because they own them. Luthor is owned by Superman. Just because he won't kill him that's Superman's moronic fault not like he can't. Doomsday is someone he needs help with because he's a much bigger challenge. Luthor is just a recurring challenge.
I think you should re-read my post.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They defeat them every time. They just don't kill them. Doomsday needed to be killed. If you think Skeletor is He Man's biggest challenge then what is Horde Prime ?
You're still misunderstanding my post.
And I already explained the He-Man thing. I mean, I know you only post to get a rise out of people, but this is getting silly.
Originally posted by -Pr-And to honestly think Luthor is some big bad challenge for Superman is beyond me.
You're still misunderstanding my post.And I already explained the He-Man thing. I mean, I know you only post to get a rise out of people, but this is getting silly.
Neme's point is Darkseid is a bigger challenge for Superman because he is. He might not be Superman's primary antagonist which to you means ultimate challenge. Both Darkseid and Doomsday are both bigger challenges for Superman.