Originally posted by quanchi112
Name me a few arcs spotlighting Luthoro of greater significance than Death of Superman ?
LoL, at least you conceded the Joker/Batman issue. That's a start.
Sorry, not going to get into another circular argument where I post stuff and you'll do a dance and/or ignore clown-show yet again. Lex Luthor is Superman's arch nemesis. Just getting your ass kicked by a villain doesn't cut it.
You and your penchant for throwaway villains.
Originally posted by Newjak
I love how people are like the Joker didn't have a plan, of course he had a plan. His plan was to get Gotham's people to kill themselves to show them their true selves which failed and you can tell his plan failed by the look on the Joker's face afterwards. He just told Harvey all that hogwash about chaos to get him to do what he wanted.
He made it up as he went along. When he started out his plan didn't look anything like that. His plan is terror, or fun with the Batman whose psych he found interesting. That's what made his plans better than Talia or Ducard's, they're plans were sedantic whereas the Joker's was adapted and improvised.
Originally posted by RobtardNo, name an arc for both of greater significance.
LoL, at least you conceded the Joker/Batman issue. That's a start.Sorry, not going to get into another circular argument where I post stuff and you'll do a dance and/or ignore clown-show yet again. Lex Luthor is Superman's arch nemesis. Just getting your ass kicked by a villain doesn't cut it.
You and your penchant for throwaway villains.
I knew you couldn't give one example. You don't read comics or grasp movies.
Luthor fails time and time again. Superman can afford to keep him alive because he's a joke. Doomsday needs to die because he's that big of a deal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't need permission. Giving someone the opportunity to take your life means he was the boss of his life. That's called owning someone.
He did need permission. He was completely at Joker's mercy for the 2nd time. Had Joker not put the gun in his hand he would never have had the option to kill him. In other words Joker gave him the power.. joker at anytime could have taken away that power. Not sounding very boss-like
Originally posted by DolosHow much of it do you know is improvised.
He made it up as he went along. When he started out his plan didn't look anything like that. His plan is terror, or fun with the Batman whose psych he found interesting. That's what made his plans better than Talia or Ducard's, they're plans were sedantic whereas the Joker's was adapted and improvised.
He rigged two entire warehouses to blow, he rigged two boats to blow, had transmitters built for them. Some of the stuff he probably did make up but he definitely invested way too much time and effort for it to have been all made as as he goes.
Also even if he did that in no way makes his plans better. Especially considering his plans were in fact kind of dumb when you think about them too much 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
How much of it do you know is improvised.He rigged two entire warehouses to blow, he rigged two boats to blow, had transmitters built for them. Some of the stuff he probably did make up but he definitely invested way too much time and effort for it to have been all made as as he goes.
Also even if he did that in no way makes his plans better. Especially considering his plans were in fact kind of dumb when you think about them too much 😛
He did relish in disfiguring Harvey's face.
That's why he's a better villain, because he's undeniably crazier. A villain should be measured on their malevolence. The closer to the Slanderer himself, the better.
Originally posted by DolosSo 😛
He did relish in disfiguring Harvey's face.That's why he's a better villain, because he's undeniably crazier. A villain should be measured on their malevolence. The closer to the Slanderer himself, the better.
And that only makes him a better villain in your eyes, people have different opinions on what makes villain better.
Originally posted by juggermanYes, giving someone power over you makes them your boss. I cannot think of a more submissive act than giving an unarmed man a gun and letting them kill you if they choose. Then again Joker does like lady's clothing.
He did need permission. He was completely at Joker's mercy for the 2nd time. Had Joker not put the gun in his hand he would never have had the option to kill him. In other words Joker gave him the power.. joker at anytime could have taken away that power. Not sounding very boss-like
Originally posted by DolosThat's how choose to rate a villain but your criteria applies to you and you alone.
He did relish in disfiguring Harvey's face.That's why he's a better villain, because he's undeniably crazier. A villain should be measured on their malevolence. The closer to the Slanderer himself, the better.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, name an arc for both of greater significance.I knew you couldn't give one example. You don't read comics or grasp movies.
Luthor fails time and time again. Superman can afford to keep him alive because he's a joke. Doomsday needs to die because he's that big of a deal.
Derp-a-derp-derp. Crisis on Infinite Earths was of far greater importance. That was pre Doomsday. Kingdom Come was of far greater importance. Anyhow, time for you to do your dance. Derp.
Not that arguing against facts ever stopped you. But the Death of Superman wasn't all that "great" and Doomsday isn't Superman's arch nem cos of it. Superman came back shortly after and we learn he didn't actually die. A decent story, but nothing spectacular.
Derp-a-derp-derp. Doomsday came back too. Derp.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, giving someone power over you makes them your boss. I cannot think of a more submissive act than giving an unarmed man a gun and letting them kill you if they choose. Then again Joker does like lady's clothing.
So anyone with a gun that can kill someone if they choose to is a boss? Some low standards you got there
Originally posted by RobtardKingdom Come has to do with a different superman. You are so ignorant is actually causes my handsome face to smile. I am talking in terms of solo threat to Superman.
Derp-a-derp-derp. Crisis on Infinite Earths was of far greater importance. That was pre Doomsday. Kingdom Come was of far greater importance. Anyhow, time for you to do your dance. Derp.Not that arguing against facts ever stopped you. But the Death of Superman wasn't all that "great" and Doomsday isn't Superman's arch nem cos of it. Superman came back shortly after and we learn he didn't actually die. A decent story, but nothing spectacular.
Derp-a-derp-derp. Doomsday came back too. Derp.
You didn't name any arcs with Luthor in them as the main villain. How typical of you. You're still such a dwarf.
Originally posted by quanchi112Joker gave Harvey a gun but that doesn't mean Harvey become the main boss around there. Maybe you can argue in that instant Two-Face had all the power but that doesn't make him the actual boss of the Joker as in telling him to do things.
Yes, you allow them full power over your life. I liken to to master and slave. Joker is Two face's slave.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kingdom Come has to do with a different superman. You are so ignorant is actually causes my handsome face to smile. I am talking in terms of solo threat to Superman.You didn't name any arcs with Luthor in them as the main villain. How typical of you. You're still such a dwarf.
LoL. The Quanchi-Dance as expected. "No, I meant this Superman only!!!" Derp-a-derp-derp.
Keep crying and arguing against facts. Lex is Superman's arch nem. Just going to have to deal with it.
Originally posted by RobtardI mean the ne Superman. There are alternate Superman so their experiences aren't the same. Dear lord. Doomsday is his greater challenge. Death of Superman. Cry some more, nerd.
LoL. The Quanchi-Dance as expected. "No, I meant this Superman only!!!" Derp-a-derp-derp.Keep crying and arguing against facts. Lex is Superman's arch nem. Just going to have to deal with it.
Originally posted by NewjakHe gave him control over his life. In that moment he became his slave.
Joker gave Harvey a gun but that doesn't mean Harvey become the main boss around there. Maybe you can argue in that instant Two-Face had all the power but that doesn't make him the actual boss of the Joker as in telling him to do things.
Originally posted by quanchi112Perhaps you could argue in that moment but afterwards Two-Face had no power over the Joker. And it doesn't make Harvey the main boss either.
I mean the ne Superman. There are alternate Superman so their experiences aren't the same. Dear lord. Doomsday is his greater challenge. Death of Superman. Cry some more, nerd. He gave him control over his life. In that moment he became his slave.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I mean the ne Superman. There are alternate Superman so their experiences aren't the same. Dear lord. Doomsday is his greater challenge. Death of Superman. Cry some more, nerd.
You didn't counter any of this and it's still crushing you:
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL. The Quanchi-Dance as expected. "No, I meant this Superman only!!!" Derp-a-derp-derp.Keep crying and arguing against facts. Lex is Superman's arch nem. Just going to have to deal with it.
Be a man, admit you are simply wrong. You tried to slyly back away from your claim that Bane and not the Joker was Batman's arch nem and I let it slide out of the kindness of my heart and the pity I feel for you.
Originally posted by RobtardSo the death of Superman isn't that significant to Superman as say Kingdom Come which didn't even happen to him ? You're like a schoolgirl.
You didn't counter any of this and it's still crushing you:Be a man, admit you are simply wrong. You tried to slyly back away from your claim that Bane and not the Joker was Batman's arch nem and I let it slide out of the kindness of my heart and the pity I feel for you.
Bane is his greatest challenge/nemesis. That's 100 percent accurate.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So the death of Superman isn't that significant to Superman as say Kingdom Come which didn't even happen to him ? You're like a schoolgirl.Bane is his greatest challenge/nemesis. That's 100 percent accurate.
Derp.
And a return of that derp. You're so easy to control. It's not even fun anymore.