Originally posted by quanchi112
He survived the blast it doesn't mean his durability is that of anything less can't harm him. That's silly and others who have survived big bangs don't get the same pass. It's silly.Thanos alters his mind or soul. Thanos doesn't even have to destroy him. You seem to think more powerful means auto win despite the fat Thanos is more powerful here he can in a variety of ways.
Thanos can do anything with the ig. Read up on it, hater.
Uh huh. Your argument makes no sense. Your making mental gymnastics. Well the cow makes milk but the cow cant drink its own milk thus the cow blah blah blah. Moving on
No the IG cant do everything if it could why did the LT depower it. Another one of yoru DUHHH moments like when you said Thanos with out any help could defeat Lucifer Morningstar.
Originally posted by ThereIsHopeThe ig was surrendered willingly without that there had to be a fight to take.
Uh huh. Your argument makes no sense. Your making mental gymnastics. Well the cow makes milk but the cow cant drink its own milk thus the cow blah blah blah. Moving onNo the IG cant do everything if it could why did the LT depower it. Another one of yoru DUHHH moments like when you said Thanos with out any help could defeat Lucifer Morningstar.
Lucifer's fire didn't even kill a random angel and we see random angels slaughtered in the masses.
Thanos alters his soul or mind. Thanos sees what happens before it happens making the Am someone he'd easily own here.
Keep in mind, the LT only depowered the IG after Warlock willingly gave it up and divided the gems (truth be told, LT never depowered the IG, he just decreed that the gems couldnt be used in unison again without Eternitys permission - but again, that law was made after the gems were split up already).
Personally, while theres obviously no In Panel proof of this, in my opinion Thanos with the IG is fully capable of surviving the Big Bang. The IG when it first came out basically made its wielder the the master of Everything, and considering the feats weve seen it during its series, that was proven again and again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He survived the blast it doesn't mean his durability is that of anything less can't harm him. That's silly and others who have survived big bangs don't get the same pass. It's silly.Thanos alters his mind or soul. Thanos doesn't even have to destroy him. You seem to think more powerful means auto win despite the fat Thanos is more powerful here he can in a variety of ways.
I dont think Thanos can alter his mind or soul...even with the IG.
In comics (as we have seen again and again and again), simply being "powerful" (and growing in power) tends to make one more and more resistant to attacks of all types...
At the time of the Creation Blast, the Anti-Monitor was so powerful, that I have no doubt that he'd beyond being defeated by the tactics you suggest would work Quanchi...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou are just saying yo don't think so because you don't think so. Power/durability doesn't equate into total mastery of the soul or mind and the ability to defend against such attacks.
I dont think Thanos can alter his mind or soul...even with the IG.In comics (as we have seen again and again and again), simply being "powerful" (and growing in power) tends to make one more and more resistant to attacks of all types...
At the time of the Creation Blast, the Anti-Monitor was so powerful, that I have no doubt that he'd beyond being defeated by the tactics you suggest would work Quanchi...
Attacking someone's soul has nothing to do with tanking a powerful blast you claim destroys people without anything to back it up.
Thanos, easily.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are just saying yo don't think so because you don't think so. Power/durability doesn't equate into total mastery of the soul or mind and the ability to defend against such attacks.Attacking someone's soul has nothing to do with tanking a powerful blast you claim destroys people without anything to back it up.
Thanos, easily.
Ah, but the IG doesnt give total mastery of anything...does it?
Afterall, there are clearly levels of power beyond the IG...arent there?
So, no...no IG user is all powerful...and no IG user has mastery over power, time, space, reality, mind, and soul as there are levels of power beyond the IG.
Being able to tank the Creation Blast off nothing but raw durability>>>>>>any of the manipulations you suggest would work.
If AM was = to the 'representative power of TOAA' (or DC equivalent) ... then he wins.
Otherwise .. No!
The 616 IG:
It's the power of the previous "Supreme being" (Infinity Being)
and the ONLY level above it on panel was the 'Representative Power of TOAA'
The LT, being TOAA's representative is above the IG by default.
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In Marvel comics,
from what we know that was portrayed on panel
and defined in the handbooks:
Only TOAA or a representative power of TOAA is > 616 IG
It's too bad Thanos only wanted 616 and therefore didn't crack/remake/or created one, two or a million Multiverses.
(although, he usurped Eternity's position as the Center of All Reality)
Those are the facts.
Although, what Thanos did resulted in an omni-directional ripple
that billowed outward of 616 and devastated reality till the ends of the Omniverse,
then proceeded to pass BEYOND the Omniverse and into the Beyond Realm,
where it still continued to devastate reality even OUTSIDE the infinities of creation.
... meh ... Magus & Warlock battled across Countless UniverseS
both Astral and Physical ... with the Incomplete IG. 😎
Aside from Magus controlling multiple Realities (one being 616) from over 100 UniverseS away.
@Mr Master
I am well aware of what was said on panel during the Infinity Arcs pertaining to the IG...
HOWEVER things have a tendency change over time in comics; things that were once true are no longer true over time...
I cant recall the characters name, but didnt some guy acquire enough power to battle Thanos with the IG sans the backing of TOAA?
Hasnt Scathan demostrated his power to be beyond that of the LT's (who appears to be superior to the IG)? Does Scathan have TOAA's backing? I certainly saw nothing on panel to indicate that he did...
You have said it yourself (and others, myself included, agree with this; heck, even MEPHISTO himself said this during the Infinity War) that a lone CCU is theoretically equal to a complete IG; do CCU's have TOAA's backing?
I think not...
All in all, I dont think the IG only being able to be beaten by TOAA or his representative is true anymore...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Can I get those battle feats of the AM again..
Well Dawn of Time Anti-Monitor has no battle feats...
However he did acquire a tremendous amount of power from multiple universes and tanked the Creation Blast...
So while he doesnt have combat feats at this stage, he still was clearly tremendously powerful...
