In fact, no one has produced scans of fights or feats for ANYONE SoK's killed that would make those kills seem impressive. The Preacher comic lasted like 66-75 issues. There's NOT ONE feat or fight worth mentioning by anyone like Satan or the Angel of Death or the Heavenly Host?[/B]
Again, what kind of feats do you want? If you want durability feats, other than the nuke thing, I think there is [i]none in the entire series. God did exactly nothing on the series barring its implies power from the fact that he created the universe, and that he created the SoK, who is a pretty powerful entity by himself. Out of his throne he's less powerful, but still powerful enough to resurrect people and if we go by the bible, use some transmutation feats.
Also you seem to be proposing that God should've transmutated SoK into a tampax as soon as he saw him, and if that was at all possible, I could say God can transmutate Surfer effortlessly... Except Surfer can retailaite faster, which is what SoK did -even assuming he'd be able to affect SoK and Surfer in his mortal form-.
People seem to be assuming Thanos would tank the death-casting bullet "because", if your argument is that Thanos can destroy SoK before the gun is even fired, I think that its pretty reasonable. But to give Thanos some kind of death inmunity because we don't like SoK's feats is entirely pointless and shallow -unless this is the version of Thanos that actually had death inmunity-.
That's my whole point. Feel free to do with it as you must.
Originally posted by Bentley
Again, what kind of feats do you want? If you want durability feats, other than the nuke thing, I think there is none in the entire series. God did exactly nothing on the series barring its implies power from the fact that he created the universe, and that he created the SoK, who is a pretty powerful entity by himself. Out of his throne he's less powerful, but still powerful enough to resurrect people and if we go by the bible, use some transmutation feats.
Also you seem to be proposing that God should've transmutated SoK into a tampax as soon as he saw him, and if that was at all possible, I could say God can transmutate Surfer effortlessly... Except Surfer can retailaite faster, which is what SoK did -even assuming he'd be able to affect SoK and Surfer in his mortal form-.People seem to be assuming Thanos would tank the death-casting bullet "because", if your argument is that Thanos can destroy SoK before the gun is even fired, I think that its pretty reasonable. But to give Thanos some kind of death inmunity because we don't like SoK's feats is entirely pointless and shallow -unless this is the version of Thanos that actually had death inmunity-.
That's my whole point. Feel free to do with it as you must.
As you can clearly see here, a human being has his jaw shot off by SOK, and is still alive:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/__hr_Preacher23___pre23-15_zpsecfcc0e8.jpgShoots an angel in the face, and he has time to have a conversation before he dies.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page19of40_zpse74019e1.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page20of40_zps0e75b073.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page21of40_zpsfb198c6d.jpgThis cops survives having his arm shot off for a time... before SOK has to shoot him again:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page03of24_zps93d3b473.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page04of24_zps0c742398.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page05of24_zpsaf29ec86.jpgIs subject to Custer's words:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page09of24_zps0731c420.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page10of24_zps81aee42b.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page11of24_zps78a03a20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page12of24_zpsbaa3dd73.jpgGets put off balance by tank shells:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue36-page16of24_zps35bbb7cc.jpgThe angels were killing each other with iron weapons (IE, not immortal... or even durable...):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue59-page11of23_zps6a0621e6.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue59-page12of23_zps62041d97.jpgSOK couldn't scratch God if he got on his throne:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue60-page08of23_zps2feb0759.jpgThe infamous vampire scene (IE, the only being with any form of healing factor, and he isn't immortal either)):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue03-page18of24_zps054356ba.jpghttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page03of24_zps3f26acce.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue04-page06of24_zps0411022a.jpgGod was only ever said to be worldly (or at least, I can't find shit that says he's anything above a worldly deity), and he also says that he can bring people back to life ON HIS THRONE. So impressive.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page19of30_zpsf1c68ff8.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page20of30_zps1d3d27cf.jpg
Well, there aren't many fights in the Preacherverse either, some h2h low street fights are the most developped ones.
The last two scans are misreading the idea of God, he clearly speaks of the Creation and it's talking about a World in its entirely, making a whole world -even if it didn't include anything else in creation, which isn't stated-, is a pretty high feat. Saying that God needs to be in his Throne to resurrect people when he just said he kept his part of the bargain and resurrected Preacher... Well, it doesn't hold up to be honest.
I thought that there was a statement in the origins of the SoK where it's said his bullets will never miss and that they will always kill or something like that? All the characters he shot were killed, and barring some odd flukes such as the guys he shot twice and still killed, so... Feel free to look for the statement, it's pretty much the only thing that can eventually keep this thread open.
Originally posted by Bentley👆
Well, there aren't many fights in the Preacherverse either, some h2h low street fights are the most developped ones.The last two scans are misreading the idea of God, he clearly speaks of the Creation and it's talking about a World in its entirely, making a whole world -even if it didn't include anything else in creation, which isn't stated-, is a pretty high feat. Saying that God needs to be in his Throne to resurrect people when he just said he kept his part of the bargain and resurrected Preacher... Well, it doesn't hold up to be honest.
I thought that there was a statement in the origins of the SoK where it's said his bullets will never miss and that they will always kill or something like that? All the characters he shot were killed, and barring some odd flukes such as the guys he shot twice and still killed, so... Feel free to look for the statement, it's pretty much the only thing that can eventually keep this thread open.
SOK 10/10.
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, there aren't many fights in the Preacherverse either, some h2h low street fights are the most developped ones.
Just going by this, Thanos wins 10/10.
The last two scans are misreading the idea of God, he clearly speaks of the Creation and it's talking about a World in its entirely, making a whole world -even if it didn't include anything else in creation, which isn't stated-, is a pretty high feat. Saying that God needs to be in his Throne to resurrect people when he just said he kept his part of the bargain and resurrected Preacher... Well, it doesn't hold up to be honest.I thought that there was a statement in the origins of the SoK where it's said his bullets will never miss and that they will always kill or something like that? All the characters he shot were killed, and barring some odd flukes such as the guys he shot twice and still killed, so... Feel free to look for the statement, it's pretty much the only thing that can eventually keep this thread open.
Thanos has survived a gas giant exploding into a star, a planet blowing up in his face (as a result of his fight with Drax), being reduced to subatomic ash (then quickly reforming), killing high heralds like the Surfer (by merely PUNCHING them), killing unkillable Cancerverse denizens, surviving vs the likes of a pissed off Odin, DP Tyrant, and an Insane Cube Being. Then you have his tech which is at his beck and call.
Thanos wins 10000000/10.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Quan turned this thread into a joke like he does every thread. Zopzop took it to the next level. Then this bro guy wow. I never new that there was another level of stupid but you proved me wrong buddy.Apparently we need to re classify the people in here. THere are the cramps, the spray fart, and the blood. Your the blood BRO
Reclassify is one word.
Also...
*you're
Face it boy, I'm smarter than you. 👆
Originally posted by zopzop
Yet you characters ranging from humans, to vampires, to angels, that took multiple shots to kill! Whoopsie.[/B]
Yet they ultimately died which is pretty much the whole point of the killing bullets. If those mortal characters had survived their wounds then the death casting myth would be debunked, but as long as they died the death promise was fulfilled.
So the killing bullets killed. Sounds good to me.
Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos has survived a gas giant exploding into a star, a planet blowing up in his face (as a result of his fight with Drax), being reduced to subatomic ash (then quickly reforming), killing high heralds like the Surfer (by merely PUNCHING them), killing unkillable Cancerverse denizens, surviving vs the likes of a pissed off Odin, DP Tyrant, and an Insane Cube Being. Then you have his tech which is at his beck and call.Thanos wins 10000000/10. [/B]
He has battle feats in spades, sure, but as far as we know he doesn't have any particular mystical defense against the death spelled by the bullets, which could be the case if this was the Thanos Imperative version of the character.
Did the SoK ever missed a shot? Did any material or distance kept his bullets from making its target? As far as I remember he always hit his opponent though anything. If Thanos gets hit, imo, he should die. I guess he could just block with shields unless the spell is also meant to make it go through anything -scans from that scene would be helpful-.
Originally posted by Bentley
Yet they ultimately died which is pretty much the whole point of the killing bullets. If those mortal characters had survived their wounds then the death casting myth would be debunked, but as long as they died the death promise was fulfilled.So the killing bullets killed. Sounds good to me.
He has battle feats in spades, sure, but as far as we know he doesn't have any particular mystical defense against the death spelled by the bullets, which could be the case if this was the Thanos Imperative version of the character.Did the SoK ever missed a shot? Did any material or distance kept his bullets from making its target? As far as I remember he always hit his opponent though anything. If Thanos gets hit, imo, he should die. I guess he could just block with shields unless the spell is also meant to make it go through anything -scans from that scene would be helpful-.
Then you have to factor in Thanos' shields, that have withstood Galactus level and beyond attacks, and it's not looking good for SoK's. Has SoK's bullets ever gone up against forcefields of this caliber?
In fact, what's stopping Thanos from just MINDRAPING SoK's? Has SoK's ever displayed TP resistance?
PS what scan do you want to see?
Originally posted by zopzopSeriously? A HUMAN took multiple bullets to kill. The angels in that universe were fighting/killing each other in a previous war with IRON weapons, WTF is so impressive about SoK's killing them then?[/B]
The bullets are stated to always kill, after receiving a bullet you always die from a would dealt by the magical gun, the fact that every character hurt by it died, goes along with the statement of the bullets always killing. And that's it, we don't know anything about that mystical weapon other than the statement made by the Angel of Death before giving the weapon to the SoK, as far as we know, the death casting is not necessarily instantaneous.
Originally posted by zopzop
If a vampire survived it. [/B]
The crapshit logic behind that is that you can't kill what is already dead, by the same logic I've admitted several times that a version of Thanos made inmune to Death by Death should take the bullets effortlessly.
Originally posted by zopzop
Then you have to factor in Thanos' shields, that have withstood Galactus level and beyond attacks, and it's not looking good for SoK's. Has SoK's bullets ever gone up against forcefields of this caliber?[/B]
Actually I was thinking about this argument myself, this is why I asked for the scans. While the death magic thingy should affect Thanos, technically the bullets might not penetrate his shields, unless there is also another magical property that makes them impossible to stop. If there is no indication of such in the comic, I think the shields should tank the bullets all day long.
Originally posted by zopzop
In fact, what's stopping Thanos from just MINDRAPING SoK's? Has SoK's ever displayed TP resistance?[/B]
Well, that could work. The SoK has a pretty powerful willpower for someone on the Preacher verse, but maybe a TP user powerful enough could affect him. Really this is hard to say considering I don't recall any TP being used in that universe other than the Word of God thingy -but that's meant to be highlevel? I'm not sure if it even counts as mind control-
Originally posted by zopzop
PS what scan do you want to see? [/B]
Those in which the Saint becomes the Saint and is given the gun that is supposed to kill evething, the result of this fight pretty much hinges on those statements.
Originally posted by Bentley
The bullets are stated to always kill, after receiving a bullet you always die from a would dealt by the magical gun, the fact that every character hurt by it died, goes along with the statement of the bullets always killing. And that's it, we don't know anything about that mystical weapon other than the statement made by the Angel of Death before giving the weapon to the SoK, as far as we know, the death casting is not necessarily instantaneous.The crapshit logic behind that is that you can't kill what is already dead, by the same logic I've admitted several times that a version of Thanos made inmune to Death by Death should take the bullets effortlessly.
Actually I was thinking about this argument myself, this is why I asked for the scans. While the death magic thingy should affect Thanos, technically the bullets might not penetrate his shields, unless there is also another magical property that makes them impossible to stop. If there is no indication of such in the comic, I think the shields should tank the bullets all day long.
Well, that could work. The SoK has a pretty powerful willpower for someone on the Preacher verse, but maybe a TP user powerful enough could affect him. Really this is hard to say considering I don't recall any TP being used in that universe other than the Word of God thingy -but that's meant to be highlevel? I'm not sure if it even counts as mind control-
Those in which the Saint becomes the Saint and is given the gun that is supposed to kill evething, the result of this fight pretty much hinges on those statements.
Thanos wins.
/thread
Originally posted by zopzophttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page21of40_zpsfb198c6d.jpg
Proof please? Scan of a character being shot and not dying instantly but eventually from the wound?Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by zopzop
Proof please? Scan of a character being shot and not dying instantly but eventually from the wound?Thanks in advance.
What kind of proof would there be?
Why would Ennis need to reinforce something after he stated it in the comics.
Going by your reasoning I could argue that there's proof because Starr says that no one survives, yet we see guys clearly not dead after one shot.
But hey, if you need DIRECT DEPICTIONS or nothing else, then why not argue that the guy missing his chin wasn't shot. It was accidentally shot off by another solider.
