Originally posted by Branlor Swift
[BIt shows her slashing at the weakest Thanos with no indication whatsoever of him being sliced.
When someone gets cut on panel, comics don't try and hide that fact. In fact, they like to rub it in your face pretty good.
Plus the look on Thanos' face... he's pretty much like "did she try and stab me, well, I'll show that whore". No grimacing, no pain, no blood, no slicey slice.[/B]
He's touching the right part of his body in the panel in which he appears with Gamora, I supposed it was to indicate he was hurt in that side of his body.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Again, bone claws cutting Thanos is non canon. Hell, Lobo appears in the same page... I mean, come on.
Lobo appearing should make it twice as canon 😱
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You can't even win the panties from an old, albino, skull-faced, chick.http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdeevflydp1rrgs8po1_500.jpg
Thanos is a TRICK, not a god!
Originally posted by Mr MasterDid you just ask if there was a retcon... In the Bible? 😂
Three Heavens?I went to a Bible school for 5 years (Jr & High) and never heard of that.
I've read my Bible (King James) and never saw that either.
There's only One Heaven that I know of. (unless there's a Retcon I'm clueless about)
Anyway, there are 3 levels/locations of Heaven... Always have been. If you really want to dumb it down, you can go with the good 'ol saying: "Heaven exists where God exists-- Hell exists where God does not." Either way, y'all's Bible schools must've sucked ass. No shit, I was taught about this crap when I was 5 years old(6 at the most.) 🙂
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWhen you get your non-sequitur pointed out and shot down, it's probably best not to keep bringing it up.
Sorry, I picked the more impressive Earth (I mean, giant turtles, and elephants is vastly more impressive).http://witwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/hebrew-bible-flat-earth.jpg
Sad thing is, this could be applicable to Preacher since nothing that happened disputes this...
You mean nothing happened in Preacher that disputes the common Christian notion of Heaven as lying beyond the veil of this world or that God created the universe. I get that you wanted God to be akin to Marvel's derivative Gaea lore-type god, but that's not what Ennis was drawing from. And you know it.
The only one who wouldn't want to accept that is someone with an agenda. And you're above that sh1t. Nothing in the comics suggested that Preacher Heaven was in the actual troposphere, much less the stratosphere. There isn't anything in the comic that suggests Heaven was Earth-bound.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftThat's not Bible God? It is a God that was revealed to be a complete a$$hole, true. But Jesus was his Son. Satan was his nemesis. The angels did war in heaven. That type of lore only exists in the Bible. Pretending that we're supposed to divorce our conception of Preacher God from the Bible God is completely asinine.
I'm not saying his attitude is why he's weaker, I'm saying his attitude is why he's different from the book you're saying we should use feats from.He's not all knowing, he's not all powerful, and he needs a throne. That's why his power differs... from an omnipotent God at least. I shouldn't have to bring that up when we're talking about 'tude. Again, I never said his attitude is why he's weaker.
God is supposed to be God from the Bible, yet he acts nothing like him. He's a scared pussy, egotistical, love-me please being. That is not Bible God.
And his sh1tty attitude isn't exactly a complete 180 from the Bible God either. Bible God pms'ed and drowned an entire world. Put a tree with poisonous fruit and a dillweed snake in Paradise. Asked Cain where Abel was. Made Pharaoh be a cunt to the Hebrews just to make a point even though it meant every innocent firstborn's life (and then some). So you tell me just how different Preacher God's behavior really is under this microscope of your's.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftYou want to know what I see? I see you having literally no evidence that Preacher God only created the Earth, as opposed to everything. But the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Especially not when the source material that Ennis drew from is staring us in the face and is rather unequivocal on the notion of creation.
Is that what I'm doing though?I'm not using the universal application on comic boards of Skyfathers for his history. I'm contrasting a power level (you know, because it's a vs thread), I never pretended to not be doing this. I'm not taking a different work of fiction and placing it inside comic history, however.
I see you misread me though. Let me explain it so you can understand.
I mean that I'm not fond of putting two different works of fiction together in the same canon...
That should have been obvious by the discussion, but alas, twisty mctwistersonBut anyway, you see Preacher God as above or below Odin?
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftYou may have forgotten, but you said exactly that on page 24 of this thread. And there is absolutely no evidence that suggests Heaven is on Earth. The angels flying in the stratosphere suggests one thing: that's where they were when Genesis crashed into them. The surviving angel seeing it come from the rising sun suggests one thing: that's the direction he saw Genesis coming from as it fell to Earth.
I never said it was in the stratosphere. That's you reading too far into it. I'm saying it's located on Earth, and Genesis escaping Heaven, coming out of the "rising sun" and killing an angel on Earth heavily implies that.
Your argument basically boils down to: well the dog was sh1tting on the street, ergo the doghouse is built on the sidewalk. Or, the kitten was looking up at a tree, therefore the tree is it's mother. The conclusion you're reaching for does not, in anyway, follow from the facts you listed.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftSo you're admitting that God created the universe and existence as we know it? You're brandishing a double-edged sword and pretending like it's cutting into my arguments?
Plus, if we're using the Bible as evidence, then I guess Heaven is "on" Earth after.“The tree grew until it reached heaven and touched the sky; it could be seen from everywhere on earth.” — Daniel 4:10-11
“And God said, ‘Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters [of Earth] from the [chaos] waters [of outer space]. So it was: God made the dome and separated the water above the dome from the water below it.’” — Genesis 1:6-7
“It is [God] who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in.” — Isa. 40:22
You know what, maybe the Bible is proof afterall. 🙂
I'm perfectly happy taking cherry-picked (and yea, you are cherry-picking them) snippets from the Bible that suggest a less lofty Heavenly plane because the Bible also makes it unequivocally clear that God created the universe and is responsible for all existence. How exactly is that double-edged sword working for you?
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftThis is quanlite to say the least. I certainly hope you weren't particularly proud of this straw-man gibberish.
Although, if we're using the Bible, then my assumption that the stratosphere is higher than Heaven is wrong. It's lower, and there's a dome protecting it. Silly me.
Genesis actually descended into the dome and killed the angel, and the angel ascended back into Heaven and told erryone.Slight error on my part, but then again, I wasn't using the Bible as proof, I was using actual real world logic.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWhat dodge? What have you pointed out that suggests that God was making a statement that was completely exclusive?
Nice dodge."THIS WORLD", when he was in Heaven.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWe know Genesis was flying around the planet. He did descend to merge with Jesse Custer, after all. What a completely unextraordinary fact.
Common sense... the Bible... 😂
Because the next time we see him he's flying through the planet. I thought it'd be interesting to point out. Apparently not.It suggests that he was probably smited as opposed to only cast out. Although, now that you brought up the Bible, he would have been falling from the absolute top of the dome, where it would have been pretty much reentry.
Either or.But I'm curious what your proof is. I haven't been opposed to people bringing proof to prove me wrong, so go ahead.
Prove what God created, and prove where Heaven is located.
It can also suggest that he fell from space or a higher dimensional plane. Did I have to actually point this out to you or were you already aware of this? Let me know if certain concepts are actually exceeding your grasp here.
My proof? This conversation is about YOUR proof. Because you're so smugly confident that God only created Earth and that Heaven is located somewhere on it. Based on taking a stratosphere reference completely out of context and a negative proof fallacy. Smart.
Actually, it's rucking fetarded. To be blunt, your attempt to make God into a skyfather-lite entity reeks of witlessness and desperation.
Where did this idea come from that God from the Bible wasn't a jealous God who wanted everyone to love and worship him.
1.Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2.Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
God almost forcing Abraham to kill his own son to prove his loyalty/love for him wasn't the nicest thing either.
Originally posted by Raptor22
Where did this idea come from that God from the Bible wasn't a jealous God who wanted everyone to love and worship him.
1.Thou shalt have no other gods before me.2.Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
God almost forcing Abraham to kill his own son to prove his loyalty/love for him wasn't the nicest thing either.
lol
that's true. old testament god was NOT a warm and cuddly god......
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I've got the DNA results right here.Thanos, you are NOT the father!
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
You all should just youtube atheist experience. They talk about how god is a not a nice guy. The host use to be a baptist, then became an atheist.
Originally posted by Mindset
I don't listen to flip zoppers.I mean floppers.
