Keep the those little insults to yourselves, and keep the condescendence to a minimum.
A moderator accused me of trolling and even talking about the possibility of being banned because of it. Even though i had proof supporting what i said?
And the idiots on this site say i don't have any proof about what i said, even though Wookieepedia proved everything i have said up to this point.
I get back to this site after 3/4 months just to see more people trolling me on my thread, and those moderators aren't paying attention that, but in vice versa one of them stated false accusations in my direction.
Now i'm almost out of patience. If this keeps up.. i'm enacting full override.
If you have any contradicting or beneficial information to post concerning the subject of this thread, post it? If not, keep it to yourself.
Stay on the thread's subject (Matukai) I will not tell you guys again.
A moderator accused me of trolling and even talking about the possibility of being banned because of it. Even though i had proof supporting what i said?
No, most of your 'proof' is repeating stuff that's been shot down and contradicted by stuff others have said, and often what you say isn't actually in the source you claim. Wookiepedia very much does not say what you claim it says as has been pointed out numerous times, and your only response to that is false accusations of edits- false accusations you've been caught out in.
You have a history of repeating false things even though you've been caught in them being false and what's wrong with them pointed out. Not just on the original subject, but in accusations to others. You insult people and call them liars when you get caught in something wrong.
Unless you radically start self-examining and learn to be willing to listen to others and examine your positions, and stop making false accusations, people are going to keep thinking of you as a troll, because you are acting like a troll.
If you don't listen to people and just want people to parrot your views on a subject, then maybe you shouldn't be posting on a forum in the first place.
Originally posted by Q99Im not making false accusations! Here's all the Copy & Pasted info that proves what i said about the Zeison Sha, Matukai, and Marka Ragnos coming directly from Wookieepedia.
No, most of your 'proof' is repeating stuff that's been shot down and contradicted by stuff others have said, and often what you say isn't actually in the source you claim. Wookiepedia very much does not say what you claim it says as has been pointed out numerous times, and your only response to that is false accusations of edits- false accusations you've been caught out in.You have a history of repeating false things even though you've been caught in them being false and what's wrong with them pointed out. Not just on the original subject, but in accusations to others. You insult people and call them liars when you get caught in something wrong.
Unless you radically start self-examining and learn to be willing to listen to others and examine your positions, and stop making false accusations, people are going to keep thinking of you as a troll, because you are acting like a troll.
If you don't listen to people and just want people to parrot your views on a subject, then maybe you shouldn't be posting on a forum in the first place.
Some of these things are coming directly from the Star Wars Role-playing game hero's guide.
Evidence 1.
The most talented Force-Users among the Zeison Sha become warriors. They use their telekinetic powers to their fullest and are experienced masters of the discblade weapon. Many of the beings from the Yanibar colony owe their lives to the vigilance of powerful Zeison Sha Warriors, and many in galaxy at large who have encountered Zeison Sha traveling the stars can attest to their prowess.
http://force.wikidot.com/zeison-sha-warrior-class
"Many beings from the yanibar colony owe their lives to the vigilance of Powerful Zeison Sha Warriors" Translation: The Zeison Sha Warriors shielded their colony from the seasonal extremes of Yanibar with their telekinetic force power.
The Zeison Sha Warriors can also use their telekinesis not only for just offense & defense, but also for flight. (Force Flight) which was something that you tried to deny and seemingly hide.
Evidence 2. Among the most skilled users of telekinesis were the Zeison Sha. Neither Jedi nor Sith, their skilled use of telekinetic force use was developed over decades of simply surviving their planet's harsh environment, surpassing even some of the most powerful of Jedi in their skills. Their weapon of choice was a discblade, a circular bladed weapon that was thrown and manipulated with the Force and could be recalled. It required great skill in telekinesis to be wielded effectively.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Telekinesis
That statement was also supported by Bodo Baas's quote: Evidence 3.
"I had heard that Zeison Sha are masters of the telekinetic powers, but I was astonished to see that their abilities in this area far surpass those of many Jedi."
―Jedi Master Bodo Baas[src]
Evidence 4. It would appear Tulak was also a master of telekinesis. According to Khem Val when the Inquisitor sees the ruins of the Endar Spire, "The great Tulak Hord once pulled a ship this size from the sky."
A master of telekinesis is also a master of the force in that particular aspect. Since every telekinetic feat done by a Jedi has been abbreviated (Force). Such as (Force Push) (Force Pull) (Force Crush) (Force Choke) (Levitation) and etcetera. Those things require the Mind, which is called the Force by Jedi.
Just like Tulak Hord the Zeison Sha Warriors are masters of telekinesis, and as such they can replicate the same telekinetic feat done by Tulak Hord. "Which is telekinetically pulling down ships" That is the set requirement stated by Khem Val. "Only a master of telekinesis can pull down ships"
And now proof concerning the Matukai's Physical & Spiritual superiority compared to the Jedi.
Evidence 1.
Distinguished as among the best martial artists in the galaxy, the Matukai made their own bodies the focus of their abilities, and were capable of using physical exercise and discipline as a form of meditation. Keeping their focus inward, Matukai philosophy differed from that of the Jedi Order in that the Jedi saw physical exercise and meditation as separate; however, this inward focus allowed Matukai adherents such a degree of control over their bodies as to develop an otherwise negligible connection to the Force into a far more significant source of strength.[1]
The Matukai are among the best martial artists in the galaxies because they are the best, it just hasn't been specified. Which is why they are "among the best"
Evidence 2. Which is also something you directly contradicted even though Wookieepedia and other sources said otherwise, such as: Hero's Guide.
Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force.
Jedi Academy Training Manual.
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia.
Considered to be masters of their physical bodies, the Matukai were capable of drawing on the force to strengthen and augment their bodies to unnatural limits. In doing this, they could refresh their spirits with a tireless energy that allowed them to exert their bodies far past their unaided physical limits for hours at a time without tiring. Because of this stamina, Matukai were capable of executing physical feats such as tumbling, running, leaping, and complex martial sequences with an astonishing speed described as a "whirlwind" blur of limbs and movement, additionally, this refreshing of spirit augmented the strength and resolve of a Matukai's blows, allowing them feats of strength and power exceeding what their bodies were capable of. In addition to this outward physical mastery, Matukai were known for their inward mastery and self-awareness of their own bodies, and were able to discern wounds, injuries, and sickness with ease. The Matukai learned to purge illness and poison from their bodies, and even become immune to them altogether, to the point where a fully-trained Matukai could shrug off the effects of a normally-fatal sting from a poisonous kouhun. Trained Matukai could also raise or lower their body temperature to survive in hot or cold environments, or even cause their skin to become so hot as to burn anything they touched. More experienced Matukai adepts could also give normally soft parts of their body unnatural rigidity to help drastically reduce physical damage.[3][5]
The signature weapon of the Matukai was a polearm weapon called the wan-shen, which was tipped on one end with a short-singled edged blade. Each wan-shen was unique and bore patterns etched into the blade to symbolize things important to its creator. Most wan-shens could be broken down into easily-stored pieces, and trained users could whirl it around their bodies in combat, using themselves as a central axis of rotation. Due to their own physical control, Matukai were capable of wielding the blade with a speed that sometimes astonished onlookers, which was described as a virtual whirlwind of metal and blades. As such, they were considered excellent combatants with weapons in addition to hand-to-hand combat. Matukai saw the weapon as an external focus for the Force, as well as a means of self-defense. The Matukai were agile to the point of being able to dodge or deflect a sizable portion of incoming strikes or shots aimed at them, and enjoyed greatly increased balance and stamina due to their connection to the Force. They were also known for their adaptability to any situation.[3]
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Matukai
As such the Matukai are physically and Spiritually superior to the Jedi. Also look at the fact they were originally Non Force Sensitive and Negligible force connections.
Evidence 3. a Jedi vs Matukai incident.
"I fought a Matukai—never again!"
―Thame Cerulian's notation in The Jedi Path: A Manual of Students of the Force[src]
And what makes this funny is that. Thame Cerulian got his *** whooped so bad by that unidentified matukai adept... that he couldn't even remember the adept's appearance, the adept's gender, species, nor could he remember the circumstances of what caused the fight to begin with. That says right there, that facing a Matukai adept in combat is the most unwise move to make.
Synopsis.
The Matukai adepts can execute complex martial sequences such as, Punching, Kicking, Flipping, with the astonishing speed of a whirlwind blur. HENCE (complex martial sequences) hard-to-do martial arts moves.
Matukai adepts are also immune to poisons and illnesses of all kinds.
Matukai adepts are able to maneuver their melee weapons at the speed of a virtual whirlwind. (Which is a moving helicopter's propeller)
The Matukai order have body empowering robes. Proved by Kotor 2's brief description concerning the Matukai Apprentices.
The Zeison Sha and Matukai are superior compared to the Jedi.
The Zeison Sha are unparalleled telekinetic Masters as well as survivalist.
The Matukai are unparalleled in physical strength, speed, dexterity, and constitution. They also possess unlimited stamina, and a tireless energy that gives spiritual replenishment after refreshment, and also physical empowerment after each usage.
Evidence 1. Marka Ragnos's revered nobility stated by Darth Nyriss herself.
"At thirteen he presented himself to Marka Ragnos, the Lord of all Sith and the ruler of the Sith Council. Impressed by the teenager's ambition and power, Marka Ragnos granted him the title of Lord Vitiate."
―Darth Nyriss[src].
Marka Ragnos was said to be not just the Dark lord of the sith, but the lord of all sith. Which says Marka Ragnos was known as the God of all Sith. Specifically confirming Marka Ragnos to be more powerful then any sith before him and after him.
Im not making false accusations! Here's all the Copy & Pasted info that proves what i said about the Zeison Sha, Matukai, and Marka Ragnos coming directly from Wookieepedia.
Excuse me, but what part of being gone for several months made you think we'd suddenly start putting up to your BS?
You know very well all of those have been answered in the previous pages, and don't even try and pretend otherwise.
I don't have a history of lies, if anything? You have a history of administration manipulation, condescending actions, as well as noted hypocrisy.
Nothing i have ever said was shot down since sources backed up what i said. If anything? It was contradicted by jedi fanboys.
How about we pull up your self contradicting quotes while we're at it?
I'm just about at my limit concerning you and your false accusations. Keep accusing me of things i didn't do and just "See" what happens? You already got one of my friends banned and didn't have the decency to apologize. And since you're too stupid to take warnings when you're given them.. how about i show you what will happen the next you act ignorantly?
Originally posted by Q99No i left because of 1 of 2 reasons. One of them being Work. The other, a Moderator that stepped out of line.
Excuse me, but what part of being gone for several months made you think we'd suddenly start putting up to your BS?You know very well all of those have been answered in the previous pages, and don't even try and pretend otherwise.
Anyways i'm getting off. "And that's when Q99 and the other sdecide to voice their opinions" (While i'm offline, LOL)
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
[B]No i left because of 1 of 2 reasons. One of them being Work. The other, a Moderator that stepped out of line.
The moderator was very much in line, which is the point. If anything, the moderator was generous, you attacked others without justification repeatedly, and were caught in it. You have burnt away your credit as a reasonable debater by your continuing to push disproven arguments, and as a reasonable non-troll by your attacks.
I don't have a history of lies, if anything? You have a history of administration manipulation, condescending actions, as well as noted hypocrisy.
You have lied about the subject matter. You have lied about other posters. You have lied about other posters being liars. You have been caught in all of those lies.
And you just added a new lie of 'administration manipulation,' accusing me of being behind you being caught by a mod for your actions because you like accusing me of stuff.
And you expect us to ignore all your lies and just swallow your arguments which, as has long been proven, are themselves lies and neither wookiepedia nor any other source agrees with your conclusions and often directly contracts them, as even the most cursory check provides? I do believe you're lying to yourself about how much credibility you have here.
Originally posted by Q99There is no new lie? Are you purposely playing stupid? A moderator can't do anything but close threads. The administrators of this site are the only ones that can restrict accounts. You reported my friend, accusing him of being a secondary account of mine, and got him banned because of how he writes. And then when the truth came to light that he wasn't me, you didn't apologize. You took advantage of tadpol's grammar coincidence, and manipulated this site administration to do your dirty work, getting someone wrongfully banned in the process.
The moderator was very much in line, which is the point. If anything, the moderator was generous, you attacked others without justification repeatedly, and were caught in it. You have burnt away your credit as a reasonable debater by your continuing to push disproven arguments, and as a reasonable non-troll by your attacks.You have lied about the subject matter. You have lied about other posters. You have lied about other posters being liars. You have been caught in all of those lies.
And you just added a new lie of 'administration manipulation,' accusing me of being behind you being caught by a mod for your actions because you like accusing me of stuff.
And you expect us to ignore all your lies and just swallow your arguments which, as has long been proven, are themselves lies and neither wookiepedia nor any other source agrees with your conclusions and often directly contracts them, as even the most cursory check provides? I do believe you're lying to yourself about how much credibility you have here.
The only thing you failed to realize is, If TsunamicTadpol was truly me? I wouldn't have been able to comeback on this site. Since once you're restricted... they lock you into the account you were last signed into, restricting you from creating any other accounts on your computer there's no way out of that.
TsunamicTadpol can tell you the same thing on Xbox live, since his gamerstag is the exact same as is his KMC account.
The Moderator did step out of line. He didn't read the other post prior to mine that caused the subject's argument to stop.
You can believe whatever you want, but when a insignificant piece of spec.. accusing someone innocent of wrongdoing, causing a unnecessary inconvenience for that person in the process, i terminate it. I guess because of your stupidity... You're gonna learn the same lesson that Moderator did, at Mangafox.
So in short your accusations were shot down. And you are exposed as the manipulative egotistical conniving condescending individual that you are.
You reported my friend, accusing him of being a secondary account of mine, and got him banned because of how he writes. And then when the truth came to light that he wasn't me, you didn't apologize.
I'm pretty sure that was still you... but I actually did apologize, conditionally. If it wasn't you, I'm sorry to whoever it was, but someone else *just happening* to show up and parrot the exact same arguments? That's a sign of a sock puppet most of the time.
But, keep in mind, the administrators check IP addresses before banning, I merely asked them to *check*, so *they* thought it was you too, else why else would they have banned anyone? And that wasn't the only time you did it too, there's more than one SWL sockpuppet throughout your threads.
Plus, you lie, like, all the time. And attack people, and be a troll who gets mad when people don't agree with you, and continue to repeat disproven arguments ad infinitum.
So, yea, it's not all about that one instance.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Mods don't generally ban people without double-checking IPs first. The word of a member is never enough. Hell, the word of a mod usually isn't enough either.
Indeed, especially when you throw in we got latter even more obvious socks.
And it's not like SWL claimed his friend was posting from inside his house or anything, which would've been a more clever defense.
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Btw, my final conclusion, on topic? The Matukai are around the 8th strongest light-side force organization.
Zeison Sha are more like 5th~6th.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Is he trolling? He's just making everything up, it's best to ingore him and ban him evertyime he gets on
I think he's the type who latches onto an idea and refuses to be wrong regardless of actual accuracy. I'm guessing in his head he pictures us all coming around *this* time he posts the same made-up thing (which, to him, is as good as canon and why can't we all see it and stop arguing with him!).
Originally posted by juyomaster34
wtf? I take a vacation and people get banned,man yall too turned up on this topic,I admit I was too,on other topics but hey it is what it is....IMO,I think the Teras Kasi were better than the Matukai.
Whatever battle just happened while I was away,I'm gonna leave that alone.
I'll note Teras Kasi was the hand to hand style, not the group. It was made by the Followers of Palawa, though others later picked it up.
Anyway, yea, it was a rather effective style that had some very effective users, so I think I agree with you on that one.