Superman Better than Goku?

All my friends believe that superman is stronger than Goku based purely on the fact that he won on death battle. Can someone please come up with a logical explanation for why superman is better because I just dont see how it is possible for him to beat Goku.

Superman gets stronger the more sun he gets. Goku gets stronger the more he pushes himself. It's much easier to sunbathe then work out (especially after lifting tons becomes easy)

Superman has Goku beat in physicality while Goku has greater energy output.

Its much easier for Superman to grow stronger and heal himself than it is for Goku.

In terms of feats Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goku.

Nothing to be ashamed of though. Most versions of Superman have been around twice as long as Goku.

Sans New 52 I guess.

But he's still stronger apparently.

Yeah that is why I said most versions. New 52 Supes has only been around for a year and a half and he is already stronger and faster based on his high showings. New 52 Supes is already FTL.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Sans New 52 I guess.

But he's still stronger apparently.

However, durability is the area in which New 52 Supes lacks the most, imo. He's already got several lower end showings in that area, and hardly any on the higher end.

Yep. He has a glass jaw.

glass cannon heroes are always fun though... HERE HE COMES TO SAVE THE DAY....(cue brick/fallingbuilding/random mook soaring through the air hitting our hero) and he's unconscious... sounds like Thor

In Kal's defense he doesn't get owned by his own fist 131

Originally posted by Galan007
New 52 Supes is definitely stronger than Goku. He has already bench pressed the weight-equivalent of earth(nearly 6 sextillion tons) for five days straight:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14937593/2663768-sm_13_1.jpg.html
So in a slugfest he's going to beat the bejesus out of Goku.

However, durability is the area in which New 52 Supes lacks the most, imo. He's already got several lower end showings in that area, and hardly any on the higher end.

Superman is stronger than critical gamma rage Savage Hulk from the WWH finale.

I know that Superman draws energy from the sun but can't Goku just draw energy from the sun too and create a spirit bomb strong enough to obliterate Supes and if the sun isn't enough he can take energy from the rest of the universe as well until it is strong enough

What is a spirit bomb, exactly?

A spherical ball of energy formed by the collection of energy from other life forms such as plants, animals, people, planets, and so on.

Genki Dama is overhyped, I doubt it could hurt Supes.

Can't it not hurt beings of pure heart?

Originally posted by COOLALLday
I know that Superman draws energy from the sun but can't Goku just draw energy from the sun too and create a spirit bomb strong enough to obliterate Supes and if the sun isn't enough he can take energy from the rest of the universe as well until it is strong enough

Superman is pure of heart too, so he could just deflect the spirit bomb anyway.

Goku is all but defenseless while he's forging a Spirit Bomb... In the time it takes him to charge one, Superman could have killed him 1,000x over.

And I doubt a SB would work on Supes anyway. He's too pure of heart.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What is a spirit bomb, exactly?

Originally posted by COOLALLday
I know that Superman draws energy from the sun but can't Goku just draw energy from the sun too and create a spirit bomb strong enough to obliterate Supes and if the sun isn't enough he can take energy from the rest of the universe as well until it is strong enough

Edit Er everyone covered it already so meh.

Better is a pretty strong word, but yes, Superman is better.

Originally posted by COOLALLday
I know that Superman draws energy from the sun but can't Goku just draw energy from the sun too and create a spirit bomb strong enough to obliterate Supes and if the sun isn't enough he can take energy from the rest of the universe as well until it is strong enough

lolGT

Anyway, the Genki Dama can't harm those pure of heart.

Superman's heart is as pure as it gets.

Superman is simply many orders of magnitude faster, stronger, and more durable (At least in terms of blunt force trauma, Goku has decent resistance towards energy blasts and shit).