United States Military vs ALL HP wizards

Started by Silent Master58 pages
Originally posted by juggerman
He used it for everything after he got it iirc. And he broke it after everyone attacked it already. It may have been weakened. Or possibily Voldemort went all out since he was enraged. But he clearly states right before he kills Snape that the Elder Wand resists him and did not improve his magic cuz he isn't the "owner".

Seeing as "hundreds" of wizards had hit the shield with spells by the time Tom broke it....it being weakened is the most likely reason.

I agree but i have a feeling i'll get a response like "based on?". So i will say we have no "proof" the shield was weakened but in all likely hood it was or Vold would have powered thru it right away

Originally posted by juggerman
He used it for everything after he got it iirc. And he broke it after everyone attacked it already. It may have been weakened. Or possibily Voldemort went all out since he was enraged. But he clearly states right before he kills Snape that the Elder Wand resists him and did not improve his magic cuz he isn't the "owner".

I disagree

YouTube video

4:29- We see the effect of the hundreds of bolts. We see them impact the sheild, but we see the shield withstand

4:32- We see the effect of Vold's mega-bolt. It is so powerful it lights the entire shield up. It's clearly more powerful than the hundreds of bolts.

It seems the destruction of the shield was based more on Vold's power than the other bolts weakening it. If that power can be harnessed intrinsically without the Elder Wand, that means Vold and the other wizards who he's imperioed to his level can do so as well. I'm not saying they'll easily do it, but they have the capability.

The bolts could be very weak still for all that is shown.. certainly not of the "taking buildings down" strength, that you alleged earlier.

Oh it lit the shield up? How powerful... does this mean not that my pocket flashlight is as powerful than the bolt?

Still nothing here to prove that HP spells are more effective than Military grade weapons. Or that that shield can stop a high velocity bullet. You still haven't explained how they work.

Dance on...

ahh good so we're going to just pretend the wizards dont actually fail at holding LA in siege.

...well if you butthurtedly take away everything that the military could win with, to make it a 'fair fight'.... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...well if you butthurtedly take away everything that the military could win with, to make it a 'fair fight'.... 😖hifty:

right but as someone else pointed out, the premise for victory in the OP is not defeat of the military, not survival, but successfully holding LA under siege.

*wizard appears, attempts to lay siege.....sniper bullet rings out. Wizard dead before he even hears the crack of the bullet going sonic. finito*

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh it lit the shield up? How powerful... does this mean not that my pocket flashlight is as powerful than the bolt?

Wow. So much stupidity in your post I can't even conceive of an appropriate response. gonna wait for Juggerman, or someone else who isn't a total moron, to respond my post. Your butthurt trolling opinion is irrelevant

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Or that that shield can stop a high velocity bullet. You still haven't explained how they work.

You see the bolts exploding shit, but you think the shield can't handle bullets? Wow you are retarded. again, I'm going to wait for someone who isn't a moron to respond to my post, because your opinion is as worthless as a Zimbawean dust mite.

he'll continue to ignore his failure in the OP and just quibble on ad infinitum (see above) when the thread is already lost. wizards fail at laying siege, so they lose. yet the dancing and dodging continues.

Is he still trying to claim that the imperio magically amps a wizard?

yes. an army of voldemorts, in fact.

now observe as he latches onto this superficial point in an effort to avoid the fact that the wizards cannot achieve their goal of holding LA under siege.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wow. So much stupidity in your post I can't even conceive of an appropriate response. gonna wait for Juggerman, or someone else who isn't a total moron, to respond my post. Your butthurt trolling opinion is irrelevant

So you can strawman and selectively hear them too.... right...


You see the bolts exploding shit, but you think the shield can't handle bullets? Wow you are retarded. again, I'm going to wait for someone who isn't a moron to respond to my post, because your opinion is as worthless as a Zimbawean dust mite.

*Holds lighter to ass. Farts.* You see that explosion..? Excellent my ass is now Wizard bolt level! Hurrah. My pants are still intact. That must mean that they are equivalent to wizard shields. Gee, im awesome.

Those bolts caused a bit of fire and knocked a few bricks loose in a very old building. They certainly didn't topple anything.

Take a look at what the Military by comparison (and the number sof troops they have) have compared to the Wizards have, when a butthurt childish troll isn't trying to gimp away everything they have and are.. I think you'll find that they have much much more and weapons and tech that would make the Wizards a laughing stock as far as a match up goes. for some reason (profuse butthurt at all the losses the wizards has suffered here in the past and present, maybe) you desperately want to destroy the military way beyond, science, reason, logic and any kind of ungimped likely outcome.

Oh well...guess it must really be tough for you, as the US military win this with flying colours... you rage on like a lunatic, yet you cannot explain in the slightest how the shields work or what the spells are actually made of..although you claim they definitely will work against anything the Military have.. lol

You just dont want to talk to me, as you know I'm right and you have to make with silly names/insults due to your butthurt (again). Thats ok. Every single person reading this except you can see how bitter and angry you are, for it. 🙂 Lulz

Originally posted by focus4chumps
yes. an army of voldemorts, in fact.

now observe as he latches onto this superficial point in an effort to avoid the fact that the wizards cannot achieve their goal of holding LA under siege.

I allured to similar a few pages ago, he ignored it.

Originally posted by Robtard
I allured...

lol gay

Ha, wrong word usage. Egg on my face.

thats not egg

Is it a moustache?

So, here are the points that the wizard side have to address:

1) Can Voldemort even control and direct his army? Is there anything to suggest he's capable of this level of puppeteering? Last I checked, he isn't Darkseid from the Great Darkness Saga.
2) Even if we accept that Imperio amped Neville Longbottom to perform a feat of agility beyond his normal capability, does this translate to using high level magic effectively? If it were possible for Voldemort to control and amp any wizard to the levels suggested here, why in the Hell did a control freak like Voldemort not simply do that and puppeteer all the Death Eaters? It would have made them both more effective and even less likely to turn against him.
3) Has the wizard's shield actually shown the capability to resist non-magical attacks? I'm not banking too much on this, (in fact, I'm fairly certain I remember--it's been a while since I've seen the movie--it showing properties that would make it effective against solid projectiles and explosives) I'd just like to hear if it has or hasn't, because it seems like the presumption has been that the shields will hold against bullets and bombs, even powerful bombs. It seems quite possible to me that the shield isn't a Star Wars/Halo style energy shield but an anti-spell barrier.
4) For the OP, is this or isn't this a spite thread?

There'll be no truthful answers from him: Just more crap dancing..

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