Star Brand vs Infinity Gauntlet

Started by TheGodKiller10 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I disagree. Personally, I believe it was intentional... An illustrative depiction of the gems freaking out and being overloaded.

K, cool.
Originally posted by Galan007

That's why I love Hickman. He's logical. 😄

Lawlz.
Originally posted by Galan007

Better?

Got it from Philosophia's scans. But thanks anyways.

Originally posted by zopzop
I have a theory as to why it overloaded. It went up against a superior force :

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That's from the Untold Tales of the New Universe : Starbrand one shot

Hyperion held that same force back until both worlds collapsed from the strain.

As Philo said:

Originally posted by Philosophía
Hulk > Hyperion ~= Infinity Gauntlet > Eternity (two of which Hyperion withstood exploding in his face) > Galactus?

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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Hyperion held that same force back until both worlds collapsed from the strain.

As Philo said:


Hey, sh|t happens in comics. Wolverine pierced Power Gem Thanos with his claws and Masterson Thor had Thanos on his knees from attacks. The BS meter was off the scale when that was going on too.

Originally posted by zopzop
I have a theory as to why it overloaded. It went up against a superior force :

😛
That's from the Untold Tales of the New Universe : Starbrand one shot
New Universal was a wondrous series.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Hyperion held that same force back until both worlds collapsed from the strain.

As Philo said:

Difference, though, is that the IG saved both universes. Hyperion did not.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hey, sh|t happens in comics. Wolverine pierced Power Gem Thanos with his claws and Masterson Thor had Thanos on his knees from attacks. The BS meter was off the scale when that was going on too.

Thanos wielded the weaksauce IG when those things happened though. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
Difference, though, is that the IG saved both universes. Hyperion did not.

As that goth stripper noted, the IG was only delaying the inevitable.

Basically speaking

Originally posted by Philosophía
Hyperion ~= Infinity Gauntlet

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Good point.

Originally posted by Galan007
Something weird was going on. After Cap united the IG, the colors of the gems stopped corresponding as they normally do. For instance, on one page the mind gem inextricably became red, and a few pages later it was green-- it should be blue(as it initially was.) This color-shift happened with every gem. So yeah, something threw the gems out of whack.

Perhaps the IG was overloaded because it only functions within its native universe, yet they used it's power to prevent an alternate universe from melding with theirs at the specific incursion point? Who knows?

Idk, Hickman said on his formspring that they messed up, but I guess that might only be for one of the colouring instances...

^You got it, pal.
http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/423735210937434247

Concede now, Galan007!!!

The link's got broken for some reason. Good thing I kept a screen-shot of it:

^ Link isn't working.

Tbh I'm shocked that they'd overlook something as blatant as gem coloring. I mean, they got it right at first-- Beast had the mind gem, which was blue. But then they messed up on the gems... not just once, but TWICE... in the same issue? Man, that's really hard for me to believe, but hey, it came straight from the horses mouth. I'll be surprised if the same colorist will be teamed-up with Hickman in future issues. That's a pretty big phuck up.

This is also relevant to the discussion, me thinks:

IG

IG still stomps the Starbrand!

Starbrand hasn't done jack that even comes close to incomplete or complete IG feats.
(not even in the world of hyperbole)

Erishk with the Starbrand was another joke until she
1) Entered the Nexus of Realities
2) Merged with the Nexus Guardians
3) The combination of the 3 amps got the LT's attention.

Erishk was only a threat to reality with the Strabrand from withIN the Nexus
while Merged to the Guardians,
which even Then,
she had to Shift the Multiversal Axis from withIN the Nexus
to do any damage to realities.

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As for Hickman's portrayal of the IG.

So far (on panel) I haven't seen any dramatic changes.

We witnessed a Newb IG wielder (Cap)
push an Entire Other Universe away.
Except for some straining he did it fairly easily.
(shouldn't that be Multi-Universal anyway? ... or at-least Beyond "universal" influence?)

Why the 5 Gems exploded at this point is a mystery.

The Gems are supposed to be completely indestructible.
(literally stated on panel and confirmed in its bio) We'll see what Hicks has saved for us.

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Now,
if Hickman decides to directly state on panel that the prime IG is confined to its native reality like its Alternates, then we must accept this as the Retcon.

A Starbrand Reed got one shotted by a Mad Celestial

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
A Starbrand Reed got one shotted by a Mad Celestial

Yet Erishkigal stared down the LT and he blinked first.

Plus the Gems just got destroyed. The Starbrand is just fine. 😉

Originally posted by zopzop

Yet Erishkigal stared down the LT and he blinked first.

Actually, you know well friend that Erish didn't even register to the LT with the Starbrand alone.

If you're gonna say that, be thorough.

Erishkigal with the Starbrand,
from withIN the Nexus of all realities,
plus Merged to the Guardians,
... Then This got the LT's attention.

Why?

Because Erish had unbalanced the closed system of power within the prime Multiverse.

How? Because she was so powerful?

No. Because the Starbrand belongs to Another closed multiversal system
(the one that houses the New Universe)
when it came into the Prime multiverse
and merged with the Guardians withIN the Nexus,
she became a threat to balance since now she could affect the multiverse
via shifting the axis that's within the Nexus,
meh ... the fact that it was in the Nexus while merged to the Guardians
was enough to upset balance.

Remember, All energy withIn a Multiverse is accounted for,
any over abundance of energy introduced from outside that
Multiverse can cause an imbalance.

Originally posted by zopzop

Plus the Gems just got destroyed. The Starbrand is just fine.

Hickman isn't going to dish out the goods at that site,
I'm sure there's more to this story.

The Gems have been around for almost 25 years,
and many stories have they given life too ...
.. Marvel isn't going to just do away with them imo.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The link's got broken for some reason. Good thing I kept a screen-shot of it:

lol

that's pretty funny. anywho, by feats the ig still beats the sb, but.....i'm not so sure that will remain the case.....

and yeah zop, sb is way the f cooler.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Now,
if Hickman decides to directly state on panel that the prime IG is confined to its native reality like its Alternates, then we must accept this as the Retcon.
That was stated on panel:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15061705/New_Avengers_003-Zone-011.jpg.html

The 616 IG is universal.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hey, sh|t happens in comics. Wolverine pierced Power Gem Thanos with his claws and Masterson Thor had Thanos on his knees from attacks AND THING GAVE NAMOR A DECENT FIGHT. The BS meter was off the scale when that was going on too.

Correction. Seen you forgot something.