This whole jaw breaking argument is dumber then hell. I knew a football player in highschool that got his jaw broken by being punched by his 90lb. girlfriend. It was a sucker punch, but she was way weaker then he was. The jaw was broken because she hit it just right. Breaking somebodys jaw has nothing to do with how strong a person is.
Kurse destroys Zod. If Zod had any brains at all, he would use his speed to get the f@#$ out of dodge before Kurse could grab him.
Originally posted by tkitna
This whole jaw breaking argument is dumber then hell. I knew a football player in highschool that got his jaw broken by being punched by his 90lb. girlfriend. It was a sucker punch, but she was way weaker then he was. The jaw was broken because she hit it just right. Breaking somebodys jaw has nothing to do with how strong a person is.Kurse destroys Zod. If Zod had any brains at all, he would use his speed to get the f@#$ out of dodge before Kurse could grab him.
dont remember the limit to Kurse tracking ability but couldnt he just follow Zod and give a beating? (unless he went very very very far that is 😮💨 )
Originally posted by h1a8Not really, I could break Brock Lesnar's jaw if I sucker punched him, and he out weighs me by almost 100lbs and has tanked shots that would make me cry.
Probably so, but it takes some tremendous strength to break Superman's jaw considering the durability feats Superman has.
Originally posted by tkitna
This whole jaw breaking argument is dumber then hell. I knew a football player in highschool that got his jaw broken by being punched by his 90lb. girlfriend. It was a sucker punch, but she was way weaker then he was. The jaw was broken because she hit it just right. Breaking somebodys jaw has nothing to do with how strong a person is.Kurse destroys Zod. If Zod had any brains at all, he would use his speed to get the f@#$ out of dodge before Kurse could grab him.
Somehow I don't believe this. You trying to sell us lies?
I seen several people get sucker punched (from people even stronger) and not one jaw broken. Have to hit it just right you say? Well the writer didn't think of this and he had Zod break Superman's jaw because of strength.
Forget the jaw break we have other feats like
Zod almost killing Bizarro
Zod easily blooding Superman after he recovered
Zod manhandling Superman against his will.
Bottomline: You don't think Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor do you?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Not really, I could break Brock Lesnar's jaw if I sucker punched him, and he out weighs me by almost 100lbs and has tanked shots that would make me cry.
Well the thing is you most likely won't break his jaw if you sucker punched him. Chances are against you buddy. But what's more important is that the writer had Zod break Superman's jaw to show his incredible strength. No way the writer was thinking that the only way Zod can break Superman's jaw is through a sucker punch.
But's whats even more important are Zod's other feats that back up his strength being equal or superior to Superman's. Which was the whole point of the jaw breaking argument. If one feat doesn't work then we got others, no worries.
Originally posted by h1a8I see them and honestly not impressed. I don't doubt for a second that Kurse couldn't beat Bizarro to death or bloody Superman with a single punch, given the opportunity.
Forget the jaw break we have other feats like
Zod almost killing Bizarro
Zod easily blooding Superman after he recovered
Zod manhandling Superman against his will.Bottomline: You don't think Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor do you?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
I see them and honestly not impressed. I don't doubt for a second that Kurse couldn't beat Bizarro to death or bloody Superman with a single punch, given the opportunity.
You know that Kurse is exactly 4x stronger than Thor right?
So do you believe that Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor?
Originally posted by h1a8
Somehow I don't believe this. You trying to sell us lies?
I really dont care what you believe, but what I say is the truth. Your argument about the broken jaw is way off base as most of the stuff you spew around here is.
I seen several people get sucker punched (from people even stronger) and not one jaw broken. Have to hit it just right you say? Well the writer didn't think of this and he had Zod break Superman's jaw because of strength.
So the writer claimed on panel that Zod was able to break Supermans jaw because of how strong he is, or is this just something your dreaming up or assuming?
Forget the jaw break we have other feats like
Zod almost killing Bizarro
Zod easily blooding Superman after he recovered
Zod manhandling Superman against his will.
This is nothing that Kurse couldnt do.
Bottomline: You don't think Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor do you?
I dont know or care. He might be or he might not. I realize its important to you, but I would doubt that he's 4x's stronger. I do feel that Kurse is stronger then Thor, Superman, and Zod though.
Kurse wins
Originally posted by tkitnaI dont know or care. He might be or he might not. I realize its important to you, but I would doubt that he's 4x's stronger. I do feel that Kurse is stronger then Thor, Superman, and Zod though.
Kurse wins
But see, you should care because it's the crux of your argument of why Kurse wins.
If Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor then Zod is at least as strong as Kurse. Thus Kurse's doesn't even have any advantages.
You just can't feel Kurse is stronger than Superman without proof. Otherwise, you are bias and are in no position to debate. Just because Kurse is 4x stronger than Thor doesn't mean he is stronger than Supes (unless you think that Superman is not more than 4x stronger than Thor).
Lastly, you are not taking in consideration other, more important, things.
Things like HV, speed, bfr options, super reflexes, etc. should be considered as they are more important than strength.
Originally posted by h1a8
I seen several people get sucker punched (from people even stronger) and not one jaw broken. Have to hit it just right you say? Well the writer didn't think of this and he had Zod break Superman's jaw because of strength.Forget the jaw break we have other feats like
Zod almost killing Bizarro
Zod easily blooding Superman after he recovered
Zod manhandling Superman against his will.Bottomline: You don't think Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor do you?
Well the thing is you most likely won't break his jaw if you sucker punched him. Chances are against you buddy. But what's more important is that the writer had Zod break Superman's jaw to show his incredible strength. No way the writer was thinking that the only way Zod can break Superman's jaw is through a sucker punch.
But's whats even more important are Zod's other feats that back up his strength being equal or superior to Superman's. Which was the whole point of the jaw breaking argument. If one feat doesn't work then we got others, no worries.
Your replying on Russian Zod feats again. I'm starting to think the actual Zod doesn't have any feats other than 'matching' superman until he gets beat up.
It's like saying ultimate spiderman could do -insert feat here- so the new ultimate spiderman must be capable of it because they have similar power sets and are named spiderman.
I don't think you'll convince anyone with that argument.
Originally posted by h1a8Maybe, maybe not it's still irrelevant, it takes more than strength to win a fight. I have seen zero evidence that Kurse couldn't hurt Zod and as far as speed goes Superman gets hit by people slower than he is all the time, if guys like Lobo, Guy Gardner, Mongul, Parasite, Batman, or Darkseid can hit a Kryptonian I have no reason to believe Kurse couldn't hit Zod.
You know that Kurse is exactly 4x stronger than Thor right?So do you believe that Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor?
Originally posted by h1a8H1 logic dictates that since Hyperion was able to stall a universe from colliding with another, and that Hulk was able to stalemate him, that Hulk is around this level.
You know that Kurse is exactly 4x stronger than Thor right?So do you believe that Superman is more than 4x stronger than Thor?
And Thor beat a powered up WWH, stalemated a Savage Hulk in pure strength for an hour, and him and Hulk seemingly knocked each other out off panel.
So Thor isn't too far behind Hulk who is about strong anough to hold back a universe.
Superman isn't even close.
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
H1 logic dictates that since Hyperion was able to stall a universe from colliding with another, and that Hulk was able to stalemate him, that Hulk is around this level.And Thor beat a powered up WWH, stalemated a Savage Hulk in pure strength for an hour, and him and Hulk seemingly knocked each other out off panel.
So Thor isn't too far behind Hulk who is about strong anough to hold back a universe.
Superman isn't even close.
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Hulk is variable due to anger. Thus any feat against him isn't proof of exact strength. Now if we see Hulk achieve a strength feat in a specific comic and another character has a feat against him in that same comic then we can gauge the strength level of the other.
Thor uses a weapon, which amplifies his striking. Thus any feat Thor has of beating up someone with the hammer gives a misleading picture of his strength.
Originally posted by h1a8Except when Hulk was pissed when he was powered up as Cul's henchman. And the whole point of WWH in the first place is missed by your logic.
Hulk is variable due to anger. Thus any feat against him isn't proof of exact strength. Now if we see Hulk achieve a strength feat in a specific comic and another character has a feat against him in that same comic then we can gauge the strength level of the other.Thor uses a weapon, which amplifies his striking. Thus any feat Thor has of beating up someone with the hammer gives a misleading picture of his strength.
Except when Hulk is pissed for an hour, and Thor was using pure strength.
Except when Thor and him knock each other out in the same series before he fights Hyperion when Hulk is being mentally controlled by the same girl.
And Kurse can manhandle Thor when he has Mjolnir.
Originally posted by h1a8So if Kurse is exactly 4x Thor's strength is that lifting strength, or striking strength. And if it's striking is it with or without the hammer?
Thor uses a weapon, which amplifies his striking. Thus any feat Thor has of beating up someone with the hammer gives a misleading picture of his strength.